EDIT. Got an answer. Move along people, nothing to see here.
There were no terms associated with this deal other than to help Voat succeed and to offer some resources to this end.
-Putt
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For anyone out of the loop, two months ago Putt announced a secret investor for voat with vague details. Which you can read here https://voat.co/v/announcements/2934082
What we were told:
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Voat has gotten a budget for staff and a partial budget for operation
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Putt remains CEO
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The investor wishes to be kept secret (I feel like I would want the same in their shoes)
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And the Details of the deal have been kept off the table “at least until Voat gets acclimated to the
partnership and the newness fades.”
The only other thing I have heard from Putt that adds any good information is that both he and Atko retain majority ownership/control. While that’s a good thing, we still have no idea what they agreed too to secure this funding.
My argument is, while the anonymity of the investor is understandable secret, the only reason to continue to withhold the details of the agreement would be if there were some kind of malicious, foul, or some other stipulation that would be disagreeable to the community.
I have yet to see a single good reason to keep that information secret; and doing so completely undermines any notion of transparency. It seems the only way we will ever get that information is if the goats make a big stink. Which is why I am here to remind you all, again.
Unless @puttitout judges us as being acclimated enough to be told.
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PuttItOut ago
While I naturally understand the concern (because you're not me), it makes me feel very unappreciated and untrusted when I've more or less dedicated and sacrificed my life to seeing to it that Voat succeeds and then come across posts like this demanding details when there are none, especially as if I haven't already proven my commitment to Voat over the last 5 years.
There were no terms associated with this deal other than to help Voat succeed and to offer some resources to this end. The 'Angel' that is on board is even more Free Speech than I am, so the conclusion that the only reason to not discuss details is because of malicious or foul intent is simply malicious on your part to imply such things.
Anyways, I have to get back to taking care of the mountains of work that I have to do.
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377548652628 ago
If there are "no terms of the deal," what were you referring to when you said the details were being kept off the table until voat was acclimated to the deal? Does this mean you don't intend to ever put those details on the table?
FreeBreivik ago
Thanks for making such a great website. For every person loudly complaining there are 1000 who are busy happily using the website. I used to run a website like this, and if I could give you one piece of advice it would be to do whatever you need to do as an admin and a webmaster, and ignore board drama and people complaining about you. Some people have nothing better to do than sit there and bitch.
Remember, you are the creator. You are the one making something, not them.
Timmy2 ago
Your work is appreciated, no matter what unappreciative youngun's say.
cantaloupe6 ago
It's greatly appreciated. Very few would expect business details, as it's an unreasonable request.
MaunaLoona ago
Hey Putt, we appreciate your work, but this really sounds too good to be true. Can't blame us for being skeptical.
Who knows, maybe Satoshi finally found a use for his bitcoins.
NiklausTheNaked ago
Never forget: the squeaky wheel gets the oil.
I am not complaining because I love what you've provided for us, and I'm happy with what we've got. There are many more like myself, guaranteed. Keep being awesome!
Artofchoke ago
You know Voat has a (small) contingent of certifiably crazy people. These are the paranoid individuals who feel entitled to know every jot of your personal business. Try to ignore it. hugs you are appreciated, Sir.
TheKnightOfGod ago
I know the feeling man. There is noting worse in this word that working very hard for ungrateful people: it's a dangerous sure path to hatred, stress and depression. I've been there but at least I was making money to compensate. You must have been through hell 'cause you didn't get much money for your hard work during these years. I'd like to prove you wrong. When you asked for donations you got more than what Voat (and you?) needed, ask again if you need words of encouragement, crypto or both and we shall see if you're unappreciated by voaters or the opposite.
AmazingAutist ago
In other words: "Stop being a meanie, shut up and trust (((my plan)))".
alakai ago
Military intel was probably the Investor
Korinthian ago
Sorry putt, but moot showed similar dedication to 4chan. Hotwheels said he was dedicated to 8chan. We look to the past to judge the present. The idea that the angel is truly just a kind hearted patron of free speech is ludicrous from the kind of stuff weve seen. Too good to be true. If youve seen the matrix, they touch on this idea. People dont like pure and wholey good things. Theres always a catch, and when there isnt a catch, its only because we havent looked hard enough. Even when theres absolutely not a catch. Consider this if you talk to him again. Try to get a demand. It doesn't need to be big, just something to whine and complain about so we know this rug probably isnt going to be pulled out from under us.
SmashMeleeFemDom ago
Anyways isn't a word.
PuttItOut ago
You must be new here. ;)
I think most people have given up all hope concerning my English. I fought autocorrect and won.
SmashMeleeFemDom ago
Haha! Not so new but I never noticed the leadership once the OG disappeared. Now I assume everyone is in kahoots with the Jews in one way or another, no offense buddy
toobaditworks ago
That's right! You don't have to tell them that I'm the new owner. Thanks for keeping it a secret!
Far2Long2 ago
I appreciate your work, and love the site.
Waterburger ago
Deflection and guilting, very Jewish. What are you hiding? Did Atko really leave of his own volition? Who's to say Atko is even alive? We couldn't identify if it was him anyways, we don't know much about him but he still has influence, perfect new identity for Mossad.
LexOrandiLexCredendi ago
It's all good. You and all of your hard work are appreciated.
Should there be a way, there are plenty of us out here who would be more than happy to slip you a few Jewbucks.
PuttItOut ago
Then buy two overpriced shirts when we launch ;)
Hysterics7787 ago
I get how you feel unappreciated, but please try to consider seeing it from our perspective as well. We don't even know if you're you. What we see is a username and anyone could be logged in under that name. People are going to be cautious and curious. It's fairly reasonable. There are many here who do express their gratitude though, you shouldn't feel unappreciated when people ask for more details or are paranoid.
Kalergi ago
Voat is a honey pot.
Or the last bastion of free speech that happens to have mega traffic and never mentioned by ((them)).
PuttItOut ago
You're not wrong.
Taiaha ago
Feeling down? Tell a admin!
TheBuddha ago
You are under appreciated and much of voat acts entitled.
Were I in your shoes, I'd have burned this place to the ground and just pointed the domain at an image of me giving everyone the finger.
It's because you haven't, despite the conditions, is what makes you awesome.
Just don't let it go to your head! ;-)
Artofchoke ago
If he would just give me two stool samples and a lock of hair, this entire thing would be resolved!! WHY IS HE RETICENT!!!
jollux ago
oy vey it's anuddah shoah
Violentlight ago
We are in a climate where free speech is gone on the internet. We all expect this freedom here to end. It has happened everywhere else. You cannot take it personally.
fluhthreeex ago
Welcome to the internet and running a business.
Holy fuck you have got to be kidding. Welcome to the internet. No one knows who you are. Even moot and hotwheels said hello publicly. That's a gorillion times less shady than playing ghost.
NotHereForPizza ago
What reason do you have to inform us that an additional "partner" is stepping in?
Is this really about "transparency"? I mean, we have nothing to gather from being told "a vague entity has joined the ranking staff." What, then, motivated you to inform us? This clearly isn't about transparency, because for all we know you're lying and they've been apart of it the whole time. We see no change in face, tone, or moderation, so this can't be about transparency, as we're unaffected either way.
Hell, for all we know, a different IP has been accessing your account since the "real Putt" left.
Hopefully this gets the point across without you becoming emotionally inflamed and assuming these aren't legitimate and honest questions, because I really am curious over these things and I intend for them to appear as such and not coupled with nuanced snark.
redpilldessert ago
Oooh, in what way/s?
And don't take the post too personally/seriously. 61 upvotes isn't a gigantic amount. Instead, look at it as a way to show that we care about the community, and keep your faith in us.
Voat work? Feel free to soundboard to us some very basics if you wish, even if we don't really understand.
PuttItOut ago
We are currently deving and testing two rather large features on preview. Any help is appreciated. Join us at the preview site and break things. :)
Lobotomy ago
Where can I find it?
cantaloupe6 ago
Used to be here - assume that's it. https://preview.voat.co/account/login?returnUrl=/
PuttItOut ago
The top secret info is somewhere at v/voatdev :)
SpicySphincter ago
It’s Donald Trump! MVGA!
Phantom42 ago
Zognald gives funds to a website that calls out the Jew.
...
Sure. Why not?
SIayfire122 ago
Knowing that it's an individual that's more free speech than you it's nice to know and I personally very much appreciate what you've done over the past five years. All I have at the moment is just one yes or no question.
Is this individual known to the public outside of the business world? For example, how both Notch and Gabe Newell are known outside the business world.
PuttItOut ago
Well, it's a group of really awesome people, very incredible people actually, who are all contributing. The very best part is that they have allowed tolerances for my rather frank and often times dickish personality.
And I don't know how best to answer that question as it could be either a yes or no depending on nuances. (I expect to get slammed for being vague here)
Phantom42 ago
Inb4 it was actually "Qanon".
"A team of less than 10" the tale says...
elitch2 ago
It's the jews, isn't it?
/s
SeanBox ago
tell the truth...is it Q?
White_pride_cis ago
Thank you for weighing in @puttitout, but when will we learn what 3 letter agency it is? I’m, kidding... but it if I was to ask whether or not this person’s nose, eyes, lips and hand rubbing were defining characteristics, would I be wrong?
GnashingOfTheTeeth ago
Reminder that putt has admitted to being a tranny. Good day.
chuckletrousers ago
The @Tallest_Skil is one of your alts?
Tallest_Skil ago
Wait, since when is Putt a tranny?
chuckletrousers ago
I was referring to his false attribution, not the actual claim.
redpilldessert ago
Source?
GnashingOfTheTeeth ago
It was a while ago i dont feel like looking up the comment
redpilldessert ago
Maybe he was joking.
GnashingOfTheTeeth ago
Do you joke about being a tranny?
redpilldessert ago
Tbh, even if he was, as long as free speech is kept on Voat, that's the main thing.
GnashingOfTheTeeth ago
Oh wow a place you can say niggerkike on the internet
redpilldessert ago
Yeah mindless crap, but they're the canary for real valuable speech.
GnashingOfTheTeeth ago
Loli is pedophilia. Ya hear this @puttitout ?
17016820? ago
You wouldn't piss in the well… I would, give me a job
Sburban_Shitposter ago
is it bitchute?
SandHog ago
Mel Gibson jokes aside I'm almost certain that it is. Lots of things line up and it would also explain the vagueness given voat's reputation and BitChute's move out of the UK due to censorship issues.
DrSelfAppointed ago
I have stated directly to you my appreciation for your commitment, and how you have plenty of goodwill and trust. You being vague on such an important event is/has been undermining that. What's even more frustrating is that you now say there are no stipulations to the agreement, if that's true, there should have never been any hesitation to say so when asked. I double down on saying there was no good reason to keep that secret.
You know most of the users on this site have come from sites, that they once trusted, whom ended up betraying them in the end. Don't be hurt when suspicious actions drives suspicion.
PuttItOut ago
I get it, I get the concern. Just be patient with me, I'm busier than I've ever been before, and when I get a chance to come up for water I will talk about things with the Voat family.
I don't want to seem like I'm hiding anything because I don't operate in the shadows, everything is on the up and up, but Voat has a reputation that can cause problems in the real world. This is the primary reason for my guard.
I don't know if this helps, but I was prepared to close Voat before I sacrificed on the commitment to Freedom of Speech.
DrSelfAppointed ago
Understood. I don't have any more concern regarding the subject now that I have that info. Even if some things you have done have ruffle the shit out of my feathers, I have yet too think you have bad intentions. In the end, I couldn't make this place, or replace it, so your what I got and it's seems like a lot.
PuttItOut ago
That's fair too. I know I leave a lot to be desired at times.
But... there are a ton of things that ruffle my feathers about Voat. I guess at the end of the day we really are a big dysfunctional family. :)
DrSelfAppointed ago
<3
Neskuaxa ago
So we know it's someone who's got cash and loves the ability to call someone a niggerfaggot at their leisure. That certainly narrows it down.
Thanks for all you do Putt.
Hand_of_Node ago
I suspect it's a certain person downthread. Means, motive, opportunity, despite the hand waving.
jollux ago
What's that mean?
Hand_of_Node ago
A voat user who commented on this post. I'm not going to ask or identify them, as it's just a theory. But it all fits.
bsname ago
Pewdiepie 100%.
TheKnightOfGod ago
Does he even know that Voat exist? I've never seen Voat mentioned on youtube.
toobaditworks ago
lol
TheKnightOfGod ago
not talking about useless retards no one cares about
fluhthreeex ago
is a jew
TheKnightOfGod ago
got any proof?
fluhthreeex ago
Funny how accounts here screeched in horror at the thought of people from an Anime sub moving over here when he himself has in the past year or so pulled content from there, as well as given lists of recommended Anime and Manga. Also that he played essentially a hentai game on his YT channel around or a bit after that. "Anyone who watches, or promotes porn is a Jew" as Word of God Truth here holds true except in the case of PewDiePie? Servants of the Jew are Jews here... except in the case of PewDiePie?
fluhthreeex ago
Ask him via brigade until he answers? ..as far as "proof" 4/8chan is as far as I've gone. Interesting arguments. Not huge on the guy. Would inseminate Marzia with some Real Alpha Aryan semen 8.8/10.
12angrymen ago
I would have guessed James Woods
Neskuaxa ago
My first thought was maybe John McAfee, being a tech guy he'd probably realized the important of a platform such as this for free speech.
Mr_Quagmire ago
https://media.giphy.com/media/DwXwTn3ExfHPy/giphy.gif
SandHog ago
I've known it was Mel Gibson all along.
cultivated_ignorance ago
Most people say it's James Woods.
Corpse_washer ago
Yet here you are writing and Aaron Schwartz is dead. Just tell the man if the investor is glowing or not thats what he wants to know.
White_pride_cis ago
I just want to know if the investor has earned the right to wear the gold star.
Draurgothoth ago
Thanks for everything Putt. We still believe in you.
TwistedSista ago
@DrSelfAppointed must have hit pretty close to the mark to get her all riled up like that! Huh kid?!
tendiesonfloor ago
Star Wars is for faggots. Go back to Reddit.
antiliberalsociety ago
The site hasn't been down in a very long time. Compare this to a couple years ago
Liber ago
You have to appreciate people asking simple questions. I think you went a bit OTT @PuttItOut, as far as Voat has existed people have appreciated everything you’ve done to make this place as good as it is. I understand the emotional reaction but OP’s question is a far throw from malicious, it is a clear display of concern by a user doesn’t want Voat to decline like Reddit did.
I personally can understand the emotional reaction when a question put so bluntly can seem like criticism, but this is the culture of Voat and it’s a great one at that. I’m not sure about anyone else but attacking a user for questioning you is treating them like a dissident. This ain’t communism.
drstrangegov ago
It's putts baby. His property. We are here because he has decided to share it with us. If you don't trust the man, don't use his property. Conversely, If he becomes too untrustworthy the people who contribute the content will leave and voat will go the way of MySpace. The free market of ideas. But the universe has a way of punishing people who decieve others.
jollux ago
Hmm... no. Voat would be nothing without its userbase. We hop websites regularly, and when this one crashes and burns, we'll hop again.
PuttItOut ago
I didn't feel like either of us were 'attacking' each other.