Jesus, you're right. I usually check accounts when they say something strange, but I didn't bother checking half the responses here because they aligned with my beliefs. ( Shame on me. )
Anyway, like I've said my argument stands on its own merit. There's a decent chance you'd remember my main account. It has long since bit the dust, and I probably can't prove that I ever owned it, so there's really no point in even bringing it up. I've obviously been pretty suspicious of this website for awhile now, but I do recognize it's the only place I can say fuck the kikes without being silenced. So I'm here. Disgruntled at some of the bullshit I see, but here nonetheless.
I get the humor. I chuckled. I just can't help but feel that this all isn't really a laughing matter. That's just my two cents anyhow. I might criticize Putt, and point the finger at people here, but at the end of the day I genuinely care about this website. I wouldn't be wasting this much time trying to raise awareness of things I perceive as issues otherwise.
I know who bought the site and is a celebrity type is all I can say at this time. His wish to stay anonymous is due to some content on Voat would cause him issues in certain circles
None taken. I wouldn"t know shit buy I left a link to voat on a youtube video comment and that is how "celebrity" found Voat and then got involved. The deal has been in place for months but thought way to sell the idea was announce as a Christmas angel. Was my idea and I think it went over well. Al the people that are suspicious has been saying Voat was compromised for like 3 years
the people that are suspicious has been saying Voat was compromised for like 3 years
Honestly man, can you really blame them? We're under attack all the damn time for our beliefs. I'm to this day amazed that they haven't outright nuked Voat. I mean that in and of itself has made me nervous about the website. I said in a post earlier that we genuinely have no idea how Voat is operated, who Putt is, or really anything about the website whatsoever. Everything we "know" is simply information provided to us by strangers on the Internet. I'd love to just believe that Putt is who he says he is, but I can't, it would be negligent of me as a logical human being. As autistic as that sounds. From my perspective, I shouldn't trust Putt anymore than I trust, say, Huffpo.
Anyways, my impression so far is that y'all over at SBBH are doing most of the subverting. I might be wrong though. Definitely admit I could be wrong. However, if I'm right -- it's fucking scary how effective you guys are. I genuinely mean that. It's unsettling.
Obviously we disagree on a lot of stuff, but can't you see why they're making those accusations? I personally don't make accusations as if they're 100% true. I consider both sides, and I try to be fair in my assessments. I routinely acknowledge that Putt might well be exactly who he says he is. But I also acknowledge that we don't know that with any certainty.
I think encouraging people to blindly trust strangers on the Internet is not a good thing. I feel we should be skeptical. I also feel this is in line with being American. Our founding fathers wanted us to be critical of our Government, and digitally speaking, Putt is our Government.
I don't necessarily agree with people making false accusations, in the sense that they're blindly claiming things as pure absolutes without evidence, but the ability to make an allegation that could potentially be false is part of freedom of speech. Like I don't believe anything I've said today has been malicious or self serving, if you could make a legitimate case for me being just a shit disturber I'd listen. However I'm pointing to things that did happen, and I feel that a good portion of the community would agree that Bob3333s nervousness and caution are merited. We've had numerous discussions on Voat about this sort of stuff, about financing, about the Voat canary. People clearly are concerned on some level, right? Like honest concern, not "concern trolling" or people trying to mislead others. I'm talking about average Goats being concerned, and rightfully. Hopefully their concern is unnecessary, but they have every right to express it regardless?
Isn't that in and of itself strange? Why is Voat, run and operated by allegedly one man, able to withstand the pressure and legal tactics ( and illegal tactics ) that have destroyed numerous other websites.
Once in a while, say something offensive about niggers and jews, upvote it to the front page, and let everyone voice loud and clear! That is how we know we still have free speech! If you worry about Voat being honeypot, use vpn or tor.
The problem I have is that we don't know who maintains the servers. All those offensive posts we make, they could very well be catelogued and used against us at a future date. Like say when the next Hillary manages to cheat and get elected and enacts totalitarian laws. The public perception is already that we're nazis which deserve physical violence. You honestly think a bunch of leftists wouldn't get behind watching us drawn and quartered?
And frankly, we should be able to have a transparent website where we're genuinely sure of who is operating what, and how, so that we can feel secure when we say offensive shit about niggers and jews. Because freedom of speech.
As it stands now, yes, we have freedom of speech on Voat, but that doesn't come without potential consequences. I don't want to see any of us have our lives ruined over what we post.
VPNs and Tor will protect you against malicious individuals, but they won't protect you from any Government agencies that are interested. I still promote their use because there are tons of malicious individuals on the net attempting identity theft and numerous other things. Leftists wanting to expose us ebil nazus.
Real easy way for them to infiltrate Voat, imagehosts. It's why I've always been skeptical of the random imagehosts that pop up on Voat. Would be pretty easy to track submissions to user accounts, gain IP addresses, and doxx people. Unfortunately whenever I bring this up on Voat I get downvoated, so... Shit's strange dude. All I want is for people to be aware of it.
The problem I have is that we don't know who maintains the servers. All those offensive posts we make, they could very well be catelogued and used against us at a future date. Like say when the next Hillary manages to cheat and get elected and enacts totalitarian laws. The public perception is already that we're nazis which deserve physical violence. You honestly think a bunch of leftists wouldn't get behind watching us drawn and quartered?
I share your concerns, about been catalogued and targeted. What we have is now, at this very moment, and that we keep fighting to retain our rights to free speech and our rights to bear arms. Do not ever let them take this away from us! The lefties may have the loudest voice on the streets, in the media, or on the web. But do not forget that the silent majority elected President Trump. While he may not be able to fix many things, at least we can see that he tries his best, to keep his promises... And I do not think that he can do it alone.
So I think it is very important to redpill those whose brains were conditioned/hijacked. I do not care if they call me nazi. Redpill as many as you can, so they can see the truth, to some extend. Expose those who try to destroy our rights, our culture, and our country. It is a constant battle that we must face.
I do not really like sharing my personal detail. But I will do this for today. My family were a bunch of lefties two years ago. It took me TWO years to redpill them. That is how long it took them to finally come to senses and appreciate what our President is trying to do to save our country!
And frankly, we should be able to have a transparent website where we're genuinely sure of who is operating what, and how, so that we can feel secure when we say offensive shit about niggers and jews. Because freedom of speech.
This is also a pretty reasonable concern. I trust Putt after these years, because he always try to do the right thing. I understand that you want more assurance. But you should also realize that if this angel investor becomes too transparent, this person too, will become an obvious target, and quite possibly be physically threatened for his/her life! I can understand why Putt kept it somewhat guarded. If this person gets found out and be cut off from Voat, then we will all be in trouble. Also remember, this place is filled with shills and jews, who love nothing but to see Voat failed. Every time I see some good news, many of them come crying about some bullshit SBBH narratives or how Putt was completely compromised... Same old same old...
As it stands now, yes, we have freedom of speech on Voat, but that doesn't come without potential consequences. I don't want to see any of us have our lives ruined over what we post.
If we stand individually and readily be chickened out, by their threats, then we will all (mostly) be silenced, eventually! But if we all stand together, loud and clear, with enough number, they cannot silence us all!! It will only create Streisand effect. So exercise silence, when appropriate; scream loud and clear when necessary.
Real easy way for them to infiltrate Voat, imagehosts. It's why I've always been skeptical of the random imagehosts that pop up on Voat. Would be pretty easy to track submissions to user accounts, gain IP addresses, and doxx people. Unfortunately whenever I bring this up on Voat I get downvoated, so... Shit's strange dude. All I want is for people to be aware of it.
This is also very true! New and suspicious image hosts, we must watch out for. If they collect our IPs gradually, and if users are not on vpn or tor, it is very easy to cross reference IP addresses and the timestamps on Voat. I hope more users would understand this potential hazard.
And lastly, I apologize for viewing you as one of those bullshit SRS/SBBH narratives often been pushed on Voat.
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thisistotallynotme ago
Amazing, SBBH is pretending to both support and oppose this news.
This entire thread is filled with SBBH'ers arguing against themselves to generate the controversy. Will it work?
SaneGoatOySwear ago
Jesus, you're right. I usually check accounts when they say something strange, but I didn't bother checking half the responses here because they aligned with my beliefs. ( Shame on me. )
thisistotallynotme ago
as if all your SaneGoat alts (you have like twenty) aren't all posting to SBBH.
SaneGoatOySwear ago
Believe what you will, but I'm not SaneGoat. I created this account back when Voat Chat was pretty active, parodying SaneGoat essentially.
zyklon_b ago
No you are the real Sane I remember when you made this alt
SaneGoatOySwear ago
zyklon_b ago
If you was in chat then I would remember
SaneGoatOySwear ago
I was one of the more active users in chat. I'd probably remember you, if your account was actually created while Voat Chat was active.
zyklon_b ago
my account would have said beatlejuice on it
SaneGoatOySwear ago
Oh for fuck sake
zyklon_b ago
see I told ya u would member!!!!!!!!lol
SaneGoatOySwear ago
Anyway, like I've said my argument stands on its own merit. There's a decent chance you'd remember my main account. It has long since bit the dust, and I probably can't prove that I ever owned it, so there's really no point in even bringing it up. I've obviously been pretty suspicious of this website for awhile now, but I do recognize it's the only place I can say fuck the kikes without being silenced. So I'm here. Disgruntled at some of the bullshit I see, but here nonetheless.
zyklon_b ago
You are not privy at this time to some information about Voats "angel" but I heard its isis
SaneGoatOySwear ago
I get the humor. I chuckled. I just can't help but feel that this all isn't really a laughing matter. That's just my two cents anyhow. I might criticize Putt, and point the finger at people here, but at the end of the day I genuinely care about this website. I wouldn't be wasting this much time trying to raise awareness of things I perceive as issues otherwise.
zyklon_b ago
I know who bought the site and is a celebrity type is all I can say at this time. His wish to stay anonymous is due to some content on Voat would cause him issues in certain circles
SaneGoatOySwear ago
It better not be Owen Benjamin.
( No offense but I don't seriously believe you're privvy to that info. )
zyklon_b ago
None taken. I wouldn"t know shit buy I left a link to voat on a youtube video comment and that is how "celebrity" found Voat and then got involved. The deal has been in place for months but thought way to sell the idea was announce as a Christmas angel. Was my idea and I think it went over well. Al the people that are suspicious has been saying Voat was compromised for like 3 years
SaneGoatOySwear ago
Honestly man, can you really blame them? We're under attack all the damn time for our beliefs. I'm to this day amazed that they haven't outright nuked Voat. I mean that in and of itself has made me nervous about the website. I said in a post earlier that we genuinely have no idea how Voat is operated, who Putt is, or really anything about the website whatsoever. Everything we "know" is simply information provided to us by strangers on the Internet. I'd love to just believe that Putt is who he says he is, but I can't, it would be negligent of me as a logical human being. As autistic as that sounds. From my perspective, I shouldn't trust Putt anymore than I trust, say, Huffpo.
Anyways, my impression so far is that y'all over at SBBH are doing most of the subverting. I might be wrong though. Definitely admit I could be wrong. However, if I'm right -- it's fucking scary how effective you guys are. I genuinely mean that. It's unsettling.
zyklon_b ago
hell yeah I blame em they been making these false accusations and attacking the admins for YEARS
SaneGoatOySwear ago
Obviously we disagree on a lot of stuff, but can't you see why they're making those accusations? I personally don't make accusations as if they're 100% true. I consider both sides, and I try to be fair in my assessments. I routinely acknowledge that Putt might well be exactly who he says he is. But I also acknowledge that we don't know that with any certainty.
I think encouraging people to blindly trust strangers on the Internet is not a good thing. I feel we should be skeptical. I also feel this is in line with being American. Our founding fathers wanted us to be critical of our Government, and digitally speaking, Putt is our Government.
I don't necessarily agree with people making false accusations, in the sense that they're blindly claiming things as pure absolutes without evidence, but the ability to make an allegation that could potentially be false is part of freedom of speech. Like I don't believe anything I've said today has been malicious or self serving, if you could make a legitimate case for me being just a shit disturber I'd listen. However I'm pointing to things that did happen, and I feel that a good portion of the community would agree that Bob3333s nervousness and caution are merited. We've had numerous discussions on Voat about this sort of stuff, about financing, about the Voat canary. People clearly are concerned on some level, right? Like honest concern, not "concern trolling" or people trying to mislead others. I'm talking about average Goats being concerned, and rightfully. Hopefully their concern is unnecessary, but they have every right to express it regardless?
zyklon_b ago
Only concern I see is the ones that have been trying bring Voat down are still doing it.
SaneGoatOySwear ago
Isn't that in and of itself strange? Why is Voat, run and operated by allegedly one man, able to withstand the pressure and legal tactics ( and illegal tactics ) that have destroyed numerous other websites.
MadWorld ago
Once in a while, say something offensive about niggers and jews, upvote it to the front page, and let everyone voice loud and clear! That is how we know we still have free speech! If you worry about Voat being honeypot, use vpn or tor.
SaneGoatOySwear ago
The problem I have is that we don't know who maintains the servers. All those offensive posts we make, they could very well be catelogued and used against us at a future date. Like say when the next Hillary manages to cheat and get elected and enacts totalitarian laws. The public perception is already that we're nazis which deserve physical violence. You honestly think a bunch of leftists wouldn't get behind watching us drawn and quartered?
And frankly, we should be able to have a transparent website where we're genuinely sure of who is operating what, and how, so that we can feel secure when we say offensive shit about niggers and jews. Because freedom of speech.
As it stands now, yes, we have freedom of speech on Voat, but that doesn't come without potential consequences. I don't want to see any of us have our lives ruined over what we post.
VPNs and Tor will protect you against malicious individuals, but they won't protect you from any Government agencies that are interested. I still promote their use because there are tons of malicious individuals on the net attempting identity theft and numerous other things. Leftists wanting to expose us ebil nazus.
Real easy way for them to infiltrate Voat, imagehosts. It's why I've always been skeptical of the random imagehosts that pop up on Voat. Would be pretty easy to track submissions to user accounts, gain IP addresses, and doxx people. Unfortunately whenever I bring this up on Voat I get downvoated, so... Shit's strange dude. All I want is for people to be aware of it.
MadWorld ago
I share your concerns, about been catalogued and targeted. What we have is now, at this very moment, and that we keep fighting to retain our rights to free speech and our rights to bear arms. Do not ever let them take this away from us! The lefties may have the loudest voice on the streets, in the media, or on the web. But do not forget that the silent majority elected President Trump. While he may not be able to fix many things, at least we can see that he tries his best, to keep his promises... And I do not think that he can do it alone.
So I think it is very important to redpill those whose brains were conditioned/hijacked. I do not care if they call me nazi. Redpill as many as you can, so they can see the truth, to some extend. Expose those who try to destroy our rights, our culture, and our country. It is a constant battle that we must face.
I do not really like sharing my personal detail. But I will do this for today. My family were a bunch of lefties two years ago. It took me TWO years to redpill them. That is how long it took them to finally come to senses and appreciate what our President is trying to do to save our country!
This is also a pretty reasonable concern. I trust Putt after these years, because he always try to do the right thing. I understand that you want more assurance. But you should also realize that if this angel investor becomes too transparent, this person too, will become an obvious target, and quite possibly be physically threatened for his/her life! I can understand why Putt kept it somewhat guarded. If this person gets found out and be cut off from Voat, then we will all be in trouble. Also remember, this place is filled with shills and jews, who love nothing but to see Voat failed. Every time I see some good news, many of them come crying about some bullshit SBBH narratives or how Putt was completely compromised... Same old same old...
If we stand individually and readily be chickened out, by their threats, then we will all (mostly) be silenced, eventually! But if we all stand together, loud and clear, with enough number, they cannot silence us all!! It will only create Streisand effect. So exercise silence, when appropriate; scream loud and clear when necessary.
This is also very true! New and suspicious image hosts, we must watch out for. If they collect our IPs gradually, and if users are not on vpn or tor, it is very easy to cross reference IP addresses and the timestamps on Voat. I hope more users would understand this potential hazard.
And lastly, I apologize for viewing you as one of those bullshit SRS/SBBH narratives often been pushed on Voat.
zyklon_b ago
no not strange. Poal and Phuks aint been shut down or attacked so why would they attack voat
PuttitoutIsGone ago
Hello. I am James Woods and I just bought Voat. Fuck you all.
zyklon_b ago
hey james