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If your beliefs, positions, and "knowledge" aren't discussed here or held by many of the goats, then now is your chance to prove us wrong!
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FrozenFire74 ago
Voat is an Echo Chamber when it comes to Race, Muslims, and Jews. The Holocaust was a lie, that I agree with, but exterminating everyone who has any Jewish ancestry isn't going to solve anything. Not all blacks are Niggers, and there are Muslims who fled the theocracies because they didn't believe in the extremist approach that was being pushed by the morons in office. Liberals are not all idiots, but the ones who choose to turn violent when their opinions are questioned are idiots. Old school liberals brought a lot to the table, not this gender fluid bullshit we deal with today. Third Wave feminism is a blight on society, but giving women the right to vote isn't a blight on society. Any absolutist statement outside of mathematics, is as irrational as it comes. Voat got the free speech part right, but certain ideologies on this site are definitely extreme, and I suspect that's why Atko and Puttitout backed off the site for the most part. Even Putt has stated he will defend our rights to free speech even if he doesn't agree with what is being said.
brewpot ago
Well, we have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people.
randomfuckingidiot ago
Hear hear
DasReich ago
A man can not become a woman, ever.
FrozenFire74 ago
Depends on how far along we get in genetic manipulating sciences before the end of the world. I'll agree that as of this moment, splitting your willy in two and shoving it inside your body is not the same thing as ovaries that can bear children.
Artofchoke ago
The reason we have so many extremists is that they were affected first. As the noose tightens, more people join, and it should become more moderate.
DANKGHIDORAH ago
Just tell them to go home and they threaten to destroy your whole fucking country.
The ones that aren't pretty much always have mixed blood, or a minimum of 20% European (average African American)
They got their lives threatened and aren't my fucking problem. There are zero god damn reasons why any shitskin from any other piece of the planet deserves money I fucking worked for. They cannot function on their own and parasitize every host they invade, fuck their feelings.
FrozenFire74 ago
Then Give them the credit they deserve. Let the irrational people prove themselves to be niggers, don't just assume anyone with a higher melanin content is a nigger. The real niggers will make themselves known very quickly.
Somehow I doubt you've spoken to every single Jewish person in the entire world about this subject. Once you have and can confirm that every last one of them acts this way, then you will have proven me wrong.
'They' are the NWO, a collection of people from all walks of life who are hellbent on dominating the entire planet. You've got all races and creeds in that group.
The US backed the rebellion in Iran that led to the Islamic theocracy you see in that nation. Go back to before the rebellion and you'll see women walking around in mini skirts or driving around in cars. Our oil hungry leaders are to blame for their suffering.
DANKGHIDORAH ago
I try to, I take the time to get to know every one I've ever worked with. I enjoy spending my time with 1/10th of the males I've been around (all ended up stealing or straight up asking to fuck our youngest female employees, or just never showed back up to work, the reasons go on) and almost all the females behave exactly as you'd expect after reading the numbers on racial interactions. Their women are pretty fucking fun to be around honestly, especially in groups, they never don't enjoy my company and laugh their asses off when I make whipping gestures :]
Three of best people I've ever spoken with, two of them closer to me than my own family, are part Jewish and are not even a little oblivious to their Jewishness. One looks white, is every bit as degenerate as the Pope, the other is just split pretty evenly between East Asian/Western European/Ashkenazi and took a decent white girl from a white guy and will not have kids, but will absolutely adopt some shit skin. He also hates how sexually aggressive white males are (refuses to believe the Latino problem), and thinks all whites have an Asian fetish because his Jewish dad/Asian mom and because MTV said so, also anime. The third Jew cackles with glee at the impending extinction of Europeans and is very proud of their heritage and ability spawned from it.
"I will not cease from mental fight
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land."
Destroy the planet with racial wars. Keep everyone segregated. Diversity + Proximity = War.
That flies because of traitors and useful idiots, things a sane country wouldn't allow at all. We've been taken over almost from the beginning, Freemasons aren't much better than Jews, it honestly disappointed me to learn how many of our founding fathers were involved in such business. The only things that the US needs to send to the ME needs to be easily ignited, EVERYTHING that pours of of Africa's mouth is cancer on the planet. Literally only Western Europens and Eastern Asians are capable of creating societies that can sustain themselves if they refuse to admit other races, which gives the added defense of not being easily subverted by other nations to allow the host to do bullshit like send money to the ME at all. The US backs the worst of everything it can, and buys the things it can't, I'm honestly not proud of that flag at all, but of the ideas that reside only in the minds of the minority of humans that are intelligent. Those people happen to look and behave a certain way, always.
FrozenFire74 ago
That's all anyone can ask of you, and you have the right to hold whatever opinion you have. I've met my share of blacks who were genuine niggers, but I've also met a few that proved themselves to be intelligent and rational, and earned my respect for their efforts. I've met more white niggers than I have black niggers, but that comes from the environment I've grown up in. I've been around more whites than blacks, but the ones who had real intelligence and were rational humans were around the same statistical proportions for the different races. Perhaps slightly more intelligent whites than blacks, but not enough to make a quantifiable claim about the groups as a whole.
I've met more Jewish supremacists than I have Rational Jews, but it follows the same trends that I saw with Whites and Blacks as well. The number of idiots in this world outweighs the intelligent numbers ten fold. The Intelligent and rational people need each other if Humanity ever plans to survive this experience, which doesn't leave much room for discounting people because the majority of their kin are incompetent. The majority of all humans are irrational and incompetent.
The issue there is forced integration, like what we saw with the Civil Rights Act of '64. Forcing people to live next to someone they hate isn't going to produce love spontaneously. Some blacks hate Whites, some Whites hate Blacks, and no amount of reason will change their opinions. Let people live where they want to live, in the communities that welcome them. If a white community wants blacks to live with them, then that's fine, but don't force all communities to open their doors.
And the Native Americans as well, before the Conquistadors and the plagues made their way to the Americas. Even the human sacrificing Aztecs were on the verge of a multinational war with rival tribes who had the numbers to defeat them and divvy up the region. The same could be said for the African Kingdoms before Europeans showed up. Once foreigners come into your home, they start shitting up the place.
DANKGHIDORAH ago
I honestly mostly assumed the Native Americans weren't much better than the countries to the south, and right now I'm honestly saddened about the fact that I'm sitting here having met absolutely zero Native Americans while wanting to keep out as many foreigners as possible. Africans are here on false pretenses and I think are honestly just more capable of growth in Africa and the general heart of the South where they mostly stay. Lately a lot of Africans have been moved around illegally, specifically to spread, and often clash with Latinos. Invading Mexicans right now stand at about 1/3 of Mexico's population. Asians are the only others I don't actively avoid, my only interest in their existence here is that it's odd considering their own countries should just suit them better naturally. THOSE are the people I feel like are here to actually escape something for some reason, they're refugees in my eyes while anyone from the ME or Central or South America is an invader. I wish I could meet some Native Americans, it was curious to me that they were seen as civilized and simultaneously demonized as being cannibals at the same time.
Sorry, wall of text.
DasReich ago
I absolutely disagree. I love and cherish women. They have the ability to create and nurture life, something no man can do. But they are also emotional creatures. Emotion should never be part of the voting process. Yet we see time and time again that most, not all, vote with their hearts, instead of with their minds.
FrozenFire74 ago
Not every man acts as rationally as they should, or else Bill's wife wouldn't have gotten a single male vote. Women are very capable of rational thought even if they often choose to act emotionally. Some of the women I've worked with in STEM fields (Some is the key word there) can blow men out of the water when it comes to their respective fields, because these individuals are smarter than the others in that same line of work. You may call them the exception to the rule, but these exceptions deserve our respect and should be treated as such.
DasReich ago
Anecdotal
FrozenFire74 ago
Then live in denial all you want, and keep assuming that all women are incapable of rational thought. If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?
DasReich ago
I never made any absolute statements, reread what I said. Even though you stated "Any absolutist statement outside of mathematics, is as irrational as it comes." you made several in your original comment. This is how you lose people when arguing your point.
FrozenFire74 ago
Fair enough, handling multiple conversations based on the same post makes it easy to get the different responders confused. Regardless, all humans deserve to be treated as individuals, and should be treated accordingly when you factor in their actions and character. A foolish man should not be given the right to vote over an intelligent woman simply because most men typically act more rationally than most women.
Hand_of_Node ago
This claim needs a supporting argument.
DasReich ago
I disagree, you can judge individuals by character, but conclusions can be made from demographics.
FrozenFire74 ago
Those conclusions won't factor in the variation of the individuals involved. Demographics give a very generalized answer, but they ignore the outliers in those statistical spreads. The outliers, in the case of Humans, are the most valuable pieces of data to report. Voat is an outlier compared to multiple social media and forum sites, but we're the only ones who will allow for open discussion of all topics, which allows for the truth to find it's way out to the rest of the world. You wont see Facebook post about who is committing violent crimes in the US, nor will you see one on twitter talking about the holohoax.
TeddyJackson ago
Jews were behind women voting, and women in the work place, and abortion legalization. That tells you all you need to know.
BeefBourgignon ago
Jews are like women, they're a feminine race/ethnicity/whatever. The man are basically ugly women with beards who are really good at money.
Crensch ago
Then prove us wrong.
FrozenFire74 ago
The NWO is the enemy that we're facing, not simply the Jewish Race. There are a plethora of poor jewish people on this planet who the Cabal couldn't give two shits about. Obama, the Clinton family and the Bush family are not Jews, but they are the problem. Yes, there are a lot of Jewish people who are a part of the problem (Rothschilds, Soros, etc), but it's not a Jewish problem, it's an NWO problem. There are enemies in that group that come from all races and creeds, and exterminating every last Jew isn't going to stop that problem from occurring. Stagnate it, maybe, but nothing it couldn't bounce back from.
Niggers aren't exclusive to blacks. Whites, Asians, Indians, Native Americans and Blacks can all be stupid as shit. No one race is perfect, as all races have people whose IQ plummets into the mentally retarded category. Some races trend towards the higher end of the IQ, but the value is in the IQ itself, not the melanin content. Anyone who is intelligent and rational deserves to be treated as an equal to people who are smart and rational. Just because you are intelligent, however, doesn't mean you have a proper moral compass, as is the case with the NWO. You have to be smart enough to pull off global domination; no Nigger (I mean the dictionary definition, not the racial slur here) will be able to do that. Judge people on their character, not on their melanin content. Treat people who have proven themselves with the respect they deserve, and if you have a good heart, give the people who have to try harder the chance to find their niche in this world (so long as that niche doesn't come at the expense of another)
Muslims have their share of extremists, just as Christians had their share of extremists too, just as Buddhists have their share of extremists. Organized religions have always been an excuse to abuse other humans, regardless of their intent. Judge people by their character, not by their religion or race. Yes, Islam has some atrocious dogma in their scripture, but no one here gets to choose which environment they have been raised in. The Catholic Priest molesting children certainly don't represent the vast majority of sane Catholics that were raised with that religion, yet we never question if every catholic supports pedophilia. Islam does embrace child brides, which is no different than the age of consent in certain European countries being as low as 14. Both of those situations are pedophilia and should be eliminated from society, but Voat doesn't talk about the European age of consent nearly as much as we do about how much we hate that child raping Muhammad faggot. And no, I'm not defending Muhammad, but rather stating we shouldn't be throwing rocks when we live in a glass house.
The blue haired screeching femenist who go on and on and on about Mansplaining and the Patriarchy need a good cunt punting, but there is a shred of truth to what they are arguing for, which is treating women fairly. Now, women aren't as physically strong as men, nor do they have the same brain structures that men do; there are definitely differences between men and women that the blue haired screechers deny to their last screech. That doesn't mean they deserve to be treated as second class citizens though. All they are doing is slandering the name of Femenism, which at one point was an honorable goal of giving women the opportunity to succeed the way men have, not about holding back men so that women can get ahead and then claim equality. I've seen it first hand where men don't know how to keep their hands to themselves, talk to women like their children or incapable of intelligence, and genuinely treat women like property rather than another human (this goes for all races), and this issue needs to be addressed.
Every liberal I have seen in the News today is an absolute tard who only knows how to rely on emotions rather than a rational argument. That wasn't always the case. We have liberals to thank for the 40 hour work week, along with the idea of a minimum wage being able to support a family of 4 with only one member of the family working (I say idea since that clearly isn't the case anymore). They also saw to it that children wouldn't have to work in factory systems when their parents essentially sold them off to make more money for the household (Industrial Revolution times in the UK), Workers compensation when you were crippled on the job (not the 'oh my back kinda feels funny, gibsmedat million dollar paycheck' bullshit we see today. I'm talking loss of limb or some other severe, irreparable damage), as well as OSHA, which is supposed to make the work place as safe as can be reasonably achieved for the job at hand. Bill's wife and her battalion of tardicacas just get on TV and whinge and whine about non-issues; they're glorified celebrities. That being said, we have a lot to thank real liberals for, which I haven't seen in a very very long time.
Absolutism ('All these people over here are evil, and I know for a fact that they all belive X, Y, and Z') is no different than the Leftist extremists we see each day saying that all men are evil, all trump supporters are bigots, all gun owners are racists. Saying that all Jews need to die, or all blacks are niggers, or all Muslims are rapists, or all Femenists hate men, just makes anyone making those claims out to be hypocrites when they condemn the people across the aisle of making the same ludicrous claims, just with a different spin attacking a different group of people. We aren't ants; Humans are capable of individual thought. Many choose to keep to the hive mind mentality for whichever collection they align with, whichever side that may be. Those who ascribe to group think like that are as much a part of the problem as the blue Haired screechers, the Gibsmedats, the Aloha Snackbars, and the Bill's Wifes of the world.
sguevar ago
My main problem with your comment is your point 3.
So Christians have extremists as Muslims do? Or for the sake of the argument, so do Buddhists?
Care to elaborate on that? (If you are bringing the crusades then I will wreck that argument so think very well your answer)
FrozenFire74 ago
Had is the key word there; we haven't seen mass violence from the Christian community in a very long time. Certainly not comparable to what we're seeing from Muslim extremists in this day and age.
sguevar ago
Nor ever.
So your comparison was really bad.
FrozenFire74 ago
Meh, the Conquistadors acted in the name of the Christian God when they came to the Americas, whether or not they were simply using their religion to gain more land and wealth. No different than Muslims acting in the name of Allah to gain more land, wealth, and control over the region. Tactics may be different (no suicide bombers in 1492), but they went to the Americas expecting almost certain death.
sguevar ago
Great you didn't use the Crusades.
However you still used the same reference to the Roman Catholic Church. They may call themselves Christians but they are not. So once again your comparison is a bad one.
The Spanish inquisition was the one killing Christians considered heretics by the RCC because they didn't believe the RCC was God's authority on this earth.
Revelations 17:6 KJV:
"And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration."
The RCC perverted the Word of God as the jews in the letter do with the old testament and their denial of Jesus Christ.
So you calling that christian extremism is you not acknowledging that they are not real Christians and falling for the deception of the adversary.
Also the RCC follows pagan rituals, false repetitions, worships false idols and is full with false prophets. Calling them Christians to try to prove a point is ignorant.
So I will ask you the same thing you asked to someone else above: educate yourself faggot. Don't use Christ name nor faith in vane. That is hypocritical and disgusting whilst worthy of a jew in the letter.
FrozenFire74 ago
Sunni and Shiite Muslims claim the other group isn't a real Muslim, much the same that Protestant and Cathlics view the other as non christians.
sguevar ago
We have proofs of our claims both backed by the Word of God and facts.
They're not just claims. Educate yourself.
FrozenFire74 ago
Except there is no proof of God, just old scripture that claims he exists. Sunnis also have claims of proof that the Shiite are false muslims.
sguevar ago
In this case you are just trying to dismiss the counterargument because you are too proud to understand where were you wrong.
That is on you.
However, every time that you talk about Christians I will call you out for your perversion of the term.
Have a nice day.
FrozenFire74 ago
So you walk away and plan to stalk my account to claim I have no business talking about Christianity when you can't refute my claim. You haven't proven anything that makes the irrefutable case that Catholicism isn't a denomination of Christianity, and refuse to see the parallels between Catholics and Protestants as to Sunni and Shiite Muslims.
Good to know.
sguevar ago
I already refuted your claim. You still think you are not wrong. Every time you falsely accuse Christians for what was done by pagans I will call you out.
Enjoy your day.
FrozenFire74 ago
If the claim you 'refuted' is that Catholics aren't real Christians, then we aren't going to agree on that on many levels it seems. No one questions the Church of Latter Day Saints being Christian, who have far more radical differences in perspectives than Catholics. As for the pagan influence on Christianity, the entire origin story of Christianity is stolen from the Hebrews, the Origin of Jesus Christ is a parallel between the 'hedonistic' Egyptian God Osiris as well as many more, and the bible that is taken as fact has been altered throughout history to suit the purpose of the current power when modified.
sguevar ago
That my friend is pure zietgeist reasoning and not interested.
Have a nice day.
Hand_of_Node ago
Just out of curiosity, what does a device on a door that allows it it swing open or closed have to do with anything? IMO, this kills all your paragraphs. You might as well include a reference to lizard people. Same effect.
There are free English classes on the internet that could cure your communication problem. I do see how you're trying in other sections, but nothing can overcome this bizarre "slip".
FrozenFire74 ago
Educate yourself faggot
Hand_of_Node ago
Ha. Your source admits it's not a valid English word. It's British English.
FrozenFire74 ago
Are you seriously going to claim that British English isn't English?
Hand_of_Node ago
Notice how they're literally two different terms...
I'm somewhat being tongue-in-cheek, but British English is no longer the default correct version of English that it used to be. I'm not entirely without sympathy for the Brits after their great fall. My informal theory is that their fall was largely responsible for the degradation of their society that we see today. Brexit is really a last gasp, but it fails to address the fundamental issues destroying them.
See: https://www.thoughtco.com/standard-american-english-1692134
To perhaps lessen the sting a bit, even regions of the US lack the ability to functionally communicate in English. The northeast (yankees) is one, the south (southern drawl) is another.
FrozenFire74 ago
That's all poppycock sir.
xenoPsychologist ago
whinge is a british term for whine. if hes a britbong, that would explain a few things.
Hand_of_Node ago
Instead of ragging on their invalid English variant, I'll just point out the appropriateness of your username for this topic.
xenoPsychologist ago
psychologizing aliens is more of a hobby.
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so_anyway ago
loooong commment, tooo loooonnnnggg.
just call out the trannies, realize the news is fake and made by lying trannies. watch out for nonsense stories, nonsense details that don't add up, DUPING DELIGHT is a huge one, CGI, staged photos, photoshop, and claims that no real person can ever investigate.
Hand_of_Node ago
Also, "whinge".
What language is this guy speaking?
Mumbleberry ago
Moronese; https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/2725184
FrozenFire74 ago
I have a problem with MtF trannies transitioning and participating in female sports, as they are still dudes with silicone in their chest and physically stronger than real women, but what does that have to do with this post? It's none of my business if someone cuts their dick off so they can act like a women until they abuse the system to get free tournament wins.
Hand_of_Node ago
They should be removed from human society, at minimum. It should often go much further than that.