I notice that many of you have commented (because you can barely do anything else) asking why you don't have CCP (Comment Contribution Points). So I want to explain because I feel bad that this wasn't brought to your attention earlier.
Voat limits all new accounts for reasons of SPAM. To unlock your account you must earn CCP by commenting and having others upvote your contributions. It is orders more difficult for a botnet to unlock accounts with this requirement in place and is why we use this particular method.
For example: You need 10 CCP to make a submission or send a message. You need 100 CCP to unlock downvoat capabilities.
The reason you don't have any CCP is because the moderator(s) set a particular subverse property that prevents the earning of points in v/theawakening.
This subverse property is called: Minimum CCP required to downvote and when it is set to anything but zero three things happen (which are documented in the subverse settings. This information is also displayed in the sidebar so you can see what subverses have set what values):
- It prevents users who don't have at least X CCP in the subverse itself from downvoating content in that subverse.
- It prevents all submissions from showing up in v/all (basically making the subverse private).
- It prevents contribution points from accruing (This is an anti-farming measure).
No one has earned points in v/theawakening since this setting was set to 5.
I hope this helps you understand why.
Edit 5:
This post has been stickied again because people still have questions. This will be the last day of this sticky, I promise.
Edit 4:
Read #3 first. So here is my argument: They aren't super web savvy and reddit/voat layout is not that bad of a tool for what they are doing. They were directed to an image board. You all know that's a big jump coming from Reddit. The natural place is here. It's your call Voat always has been and always will be, but maybe we could learn a bit from them, and them us. Think about it.
Edit 3:
I'm just going to say that the back and forth I've had tonight with subscribers of v/theawakening have been the most pleasurable I've had on Voat. (Maybe I have low standards or you're just good people). I'm voting to keep them. Can we Voat? You owe me this one! ;)
Edit 2:
As @MAGAKAG2020Q mentions below and is important to note: This setting can not be instantly switched. It is on a time delay of 48 hours.
Edit:
More useful information here: https://voat.co/v/Voat/2722975
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high-valyrian ago
Thanks Putt, I didn't know this when creating subverse and thought it for the best at the time. I recommend adding a link to the lightbox or settings page explaining further for future. Best wishes.
heygeorge ago
You could have asked or similar before you decided to screw your users, fag the place all up, and insinuate that Voat’s existing GA sub might somehow be untrustworthy.
high-valyrian ago
No, actually we couldn't, since our users and us were deplatformed and Voat won't allow anyone to create posts. But many of you all seem to be ignoring that fact, and keep pushing your misinformation campaign.
SearchVoat ago
Someone's talking about this!
'They just removed 10 mods from /vtheawakening but have not removed the CCP restriction.' was posted in v/whatever by @Goathole and includes this reply from @Goathole:
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kneo24 ago
Do you enjoy whinning like a Jew? v/GreatAwaekning and v/CalmBeforeTheStorm existed long before you guys decided to come over here. Your pathetic team of mods kept removing posts that were explaining all of your problems to you. @srayzie reached out to you guys multiple times on the first day, trying to help you out and asking for unity.
Yet you guys constantly like you're the fucking victims here on Voat. That is of your own making. Until you stop acting like kikes, you're going to get treated like one.
srayzie ago
Their mod is ride too...
https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2721409/13846748
kneo24 ago
high-valyrian is an [O] over there. They're all shady as fuck as far as I'm concerned. They're constantly switching their mod team around. I get the joke on places like SBBH, for example, but on a place that's supposed to be a serious hub, they've done it 3, 4 times now in the past 4 days.
Edit: Also take notice the account age of the user. 17 days. They were preparing for this ahead of time, and still somehow managed to cock it all up "by accident".
srayzie ago
They seem to mod completely different on Reddit than Voat. I didn’t know mod logs were private
kneo24 ago
It's a lot easier to censor people when they don't know they're being controlled. Here on Voat they're going to have to maintain some semblance of looking like they care about free speech if they have any hope of survival.
kneo24 ago
@Crensch @kevdude @heygeorge @gabara @trigglypuff
I think we need to remain vigilant here. It looked deliberate before, but it looks even more deliberate now when you take account ages into the equation. It's clear they always planned on coming over here. Probably as far back as 7 months ago.
freedumbz ago
We're downgoating you because you were being ban happy censor pushing jackasses. Dropgun challenging voat in the existing community that you created a needless alt for doesn't help. This isn't how voat operates.
Imagine that you are a baker in a small town making delicious cake and giving it to everyone because you can. One day some other guy shows up, does the same thing, but also proclaims that he is the only official baker and that you are a fake. This is how we feel whenever there is a mass migration from reddit.
Lurk moar and you will understand.
pilgrimboy14 ago
Fight censorship with censorship!
freedumbz ago
You miss the point. We don't seek to take their voices away. We seek so educate. If they adapt they will be welcomed and earn those goats like everyone else. If they continue this bullshit they have been pushing we will keep on doing what we have been doing.
pilgrimboy14 ago
Is that like Twitter seeking to educate by censoring and making people agree with doing things their way before allowing them back on? Be careful to not be the monster you are fighting.
freedumbz ago
Twitter will outright ban you, tell you nothing, and ban you if you come again. We will explain what you are doing wrong and allow you a chance to correct yourself. We do not take your voice away if you abuse it here.
pilgrimboy14 ago
However it let's you sleep at night. I don't see the difference. I'm sure they justify away their actions too.
heygeorge ago
You could have commented in a post in v/greatawakening and pinged someone GA related. @srayzie, being generally rather kind, I imagine would have helped you out or referred you to someone else to help.
srayzie is on Twitter, too.
I am not spreading misinformation at all: You messed up. You didn’t ask for help. You and your crew of mods evidently prioritized retention of control over the wants and needs of your users.
You seem like you do not have to try very much to be an ass. I’m not going to take lessons in logic from someone who thinks that @SerialBrain2 has anything useful to say while he pretends the POTUS tweets in gematria code.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
you're not getting downvoated due to some complex misinformation campaign btw the userbase here has just been lashing out at you due to the way you're all been acting. If it''s not obvious you all need voat more than we need you so you really ought to stop acting like this towards everyone
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
you should've tried participating in the rest of the site, made comments and contribute to discussions. You would've naturally earned points and overcome the restrictions in no time just like anyone else here had to do originally. You should really rethink your attitude and approach to all of this you've really backed yourselves into a corner through your own actions and you're really got an uphill battle waiting for you if you're planning to stay here at this point