I notice that many of you have commented (because you can barely do anything else) asking why you don't have CCP (Comment Contribution Points). So I want to explain because I feel bad that this wasn't brought to your attention earlier.
Voat limits all new accounts for reasons of SPAM. To unlock your account you must earn CCP by commenting and having others upvote your contributions. It is orders more difficult for a botnet to unlock accounts with this requirement in place and is why we use this particular method.
For example: You need 10 CCP to make a submission or send a message. You need 100 CCP to unlock downvoat capabilities.
The reason you don't have any CCP is because the moderator(s) set a particular subverse property that prevents the earning of points in v/theawakening.
This subverse property is called: Minimum CCP required to downvote and when it is set to anything but zero three things happen (which are documented in the subverse settings. This information is also displayed in the sidebar so you can see what subverses have set what values):
- It prevents users who don't have at least X CCP in the subverse itself from downvoating content in that subverse.
- It prevents all submissions from showing up in v/all (basically making the subverse private).
- It prevents contribution points from accruing (This is an anti-farming measure).
No one has earned points in v/theawakening since this setting was set to 5.
I hope this helps you understand why.
Edit 5:
This post has been stickied again because people still have questions. This will be the last day of this sticky, I promise.
Edit 4:
Read #3 first. So here is my argument: They aren't super web savvy and reddit/voat layout is not that bad of a tool for what they are doing. They were directed to an image board. You all know that's a big jump coming from Reddit. The natural place is here. It's your call Voat always has been and always will be, but maybe we could learn a bit from them, and them us. Think about it.
Edit 3:
I'm just going to say that the back and forth I've had tonight with subscribers of v/theawakening have been the most pleasurable I've had on Voat. (Maybe I have low standards or you're just good people). I'm voting to keep them. Can we Voat? You owe me this one! ;)
Edit 2:
As @MAGAKAG2020Q mentions below and is important to note: This setting can not be instantly switched. It is on a time delay of 48 hours.
Edit:
More useful information here: https://voat.co/v/Voat/2722975
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DamajInc ago
And we still have another 10 hours to wait before we can change it. It's not our fault that setting is still the same. We've been trying to change it ever since. Why have we had to wait 24+ hours to change that setting??
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
why did you set it that way in the first place?
DamajInc ago
It was set that way by one of us because we didn't know how Voat works and it seemed to make sense to be that way for a starter i.e. 'stop shill sockpuppet accounts from downvoting by ensuring they've at least got 5 CCP'. Now we know better. We've still got 9 hours to wait before we can fix it.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
please stop trying to create a safe space, you could've just downvoated the shills instead, hell the broader voat community probably would've helped you do that people here hate shills but there's nothing we hate more than censorship
DamajInc ago
Agreed - we're learning that. We will change the setting as soon as we can and we're making plans to handle things the way Voat prefers. We're not trying to push censorship on Voat, we're just trying to respond to the wishes of our community and we're learning that there are accepted ways to do that here. A few of you have kindly told us where it's at so we're taking it all onboard. Things move slower here than we're used to (e.g. 48 hours before we can change a very important community setting... wow...) and none of us can even post so we're essentially muzzled, not 'ignoring' everyone as the shills keep accusing us of doing.
Rainy-Day-Dream ago
I'm going to give you a fair warning now as you lift the restrictions there's probably still a fair bit of backlash over it coming your way.
Also your mod team ought to spend a bit of time actually using the site as in the parts of it you don't control, like any normal user would and participate and contribute. That's the best way to get past the CCP restrictions organically. You also ought to encourage your users to branch out and explore the site and talk to people too.
Also idk too much about all the drama but you ought to at least try to reach out to @srayzie and try to talk out the whole split community thing. The bridge might be too burnt to be mended and there might still be issues but what harm can an attempt at conversation do now?
anyway you're off to a very rocky start so good luck, because you're really going to need it