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olinneserpona ago

Point 22 from Kaczynski is as true as it gets.

I can say the same about liberalism as well: if all that which should be liberated is nowliberated, liberalism will invent things to liberate or liberate things that should not be liberated.

NotHereForPizza ago

Like women and giving them rights.

I hope this isn't too soon for them

YouveSeenTheButcher ago

If it is to soon for them, this will help explain why they shouldn't be allowed to vote nor should they be allowed to enter the workforce: https://imgoat.com/uploads/8d30a95947/83886.png

olinneserpona ago

That was a good read, but there is one thing I don't understand and I see it in American politics all the time. When the author talks about liberalism and conservatism as opposites it he must be wrong? The very thing American conservatives are trying to preserve is liberalism, is it not? I've never understood what American conservatism is all about if it isn't the preservation of liberalism(or classic liberalism).

YouveSeenTheButcher ago

Conservatism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community.

Liberalism thinks the community should be in consonance with the individual despite the individuals contribution. They think the community should contribute to the individual rather than the individual contribute to the community.

olinneserpona ago

Conservatism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community.

That is liberalism, or classic liberalism. The liberalism you describe is Marxism.

I could ask it in a better way: which or what ideology is conservatism trying to conserve? The 'conservatives' of the future will try to conserve the madness of todays liberalism. That is why I don't see conservatism as a winning option: it will always be on the defensive against forces that are built in in the ideology it is trying to preserve. Marxists/neo libs, whatever, they know this and are taking advantage of it. They are fooling conservatives into thinking conservatism can win. That is why liberalism is able to push degeneracy further and further with each generation.

YouveSeenTheButcher ago

That is liberalism, or classic liberalism.

No it isn't. It's socially conscious nationalism.

The liberalism you describe is Marxism.
Yea.That's what liberalism is all about now-a-days.

I could ask it in a better way: which or what ideology is conservatism trying to conserve? The 'conservatives' of the future will try to conserve the madness of todays liberalism. That is why I don't see conservatism as a winning option: it will always be on the defensive against forces that are built in in the ideology it is trying to preserve. Marxists/neo libs, whatever, they know this and are taking advantage of it. They are fooling conservatives into thinking conservatism can win. That is why liberalism is able to push degeneracy further and further with each generation.

No...
You want me to explain to you what Conservatism is?
Instead of guessing... Look it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

olinneserpona ago

The liberalism you describe is Marxism. Yea.That's what liberalism is all about now-a-days.

No you don't get to decide what liberalism is. Liberalism is not Marxism and Marxism is not liberalism. I can see how this must be the case for you to have an argument though.

No... You want me to explain to you what Conservatism is? Instead of guessing... Look it up.

Yes. it is trying to conserve the ideas of Mill and the like. You had the chance to tell me what political ideology and ides conservatism is trying to conserve. If you don't know this then that's fine, but don't give me an attitude and expect this to go anywhere, god damn brat.

YouveSeenTheButcher ago

Go have some kids you fucking freak.