murraryrothbard ago

I don't believe anyone suggested all people killed are innocent.

murraryrothbard ago

Fact: All govts kill innocent people

SurealStuff ago

Not the first one.

recon_johnny ago

I fucking hate the Jews.

eagleshigh ago

Was just about to ping @crensch. Look, another "real in my mind" event.

FuckPedos ago

Hi. Do you have an opinion on the thread topic?

FuckPedos ago

Hugh_E_Rection ago

This was the most thought-provoking post I've ever read on this website.

I've harbored my own suspicions of the United States acting as an enforcer for our central bank throughout the middle east, crushing any government that begins implementing a deflationary, gold-backed currency to do trade with. The motivator in my idea was to maintain our relevance in OPEC, and viciously defend the USD as the de facto petrodollar. See: Libya, Iraq, Syria, Iran.

If you've got any resources you could link implicating central banks, I'll absolutely check them out, and so would others who normally lurk.

Ajaxofbarbaria ago

Is he still contributing to global warming?

SocialJusticePanda ago

Jews can't math. 1 + 2 = my sheckles. 5 + 6 = my sheckles. 6 - 30 = you owe me 39 sheckles.

meandrunk ago

But it was real in my mind!

Whitemail ago

At this point the holocaust should be nothing but an example of how big and how much Jews are compelled to lie.

BlackSheepBrouhaha ago

((Bolsheviks))

ardvarcus ago

Those of us who are paying attention have seen this same pattern repeated over and over and over. This man didn't intend any wrong. He assumed he was merely reinforcing the truth of the Holocaust, so by lying, in his own mind he was not doing harm. The trouble is, the accepted events of the Holocaust mythology are not true -- they are distortions, exaggerations, or outright falsehoods. This man contributed to the great hoax that is the Holocaust. It really makes you wonder how many other famous, often repeated stories of the so-called Holocaust are complete fabrications.

FeLpZ187 ago

Oh in his mind he knows what he did was very, very wrong. He is simply trying to evade US courts.

CognitiveDissident5 ago

Typical Jew. So if it's a lie why is it a criminal offence to deny it?

10153792? ago

Well, he lied about being there, not that there was a "there." Ok, someone redpill me, I see a lot of "holocaust was fake" stuff around Voat. But the Germans were meticulous record keepers. The holocaust numbers come from their own books, not from survivor's anecdotes.

1812-was-not-a-tie ago

Forget it. Somebody said in another thread to look at "holocaust deniers" as our "canaries in the coal mine". Having them in such high numbers shows that this site has freedom of speech, and we don't want to lose that.

Genocides happened all the time, to all sorts of people, and still do sometimes. Giving a special name to just one, and then making it illegal to question it, was a huge mistake, and the consequences are predictable. Jews' own fault, that.

Arguing about the scale, motivation, and the way it went down is absolutely fine. Saying stuff like "never happened, but should have" crosses into cuckoo territory.

Source: grandma had Auschwitz tat 82301

UlyssesEMcGill ago

their own books

Source?

ardvarcus ago

The holocaust numbers come from their own books, not from survivor's anecdotes.

Oh, boy, do you need some history lessons. We have a exact number for those who died in the camps, thanks to the Red Cross, and the number is well below one million. Well below. Of course, more recently the Red Cross denied their own records (because, who wants to be labeled as an anti-Semite and a Nazi, right?). But there is little reason to doubt them. The "Holocaust numbers" as you call them are complete fabrications pulled out of Jew asses.

10153748? ago

Yup, and well-known camps like Auschwitz and Treblinka of course conveniently fell within Soviet territory. I wonder what the current claims would be if we have been able to inspect those camps after the war as well, before the Holohoax propaganda had a chance to start!

10153713? ago

I already gave him the short answer. Please provide the long.

10153709? ago

Stalin was guilty of having death camps and gulags of his own. The USSR was up to a whole lot of shifty stuff during that period that they did not want the rest of the world to know. It is not absurd to suggest that Stalin attempted to distract the world with "Hitler's atrocities" so that his own evils would not be realized. It is not an unreasonable theory seeing how conveniently only Soviet-controlled camps "were death camps".

Basically it boils down to -- you can't trust the Soviets, and all of the "evidence" for the Holocaust rests on the word of Soviets. Not a compelling combination.

eagleshigh ago

Tldr, fuck Scumlin.

murraryrothbard ago

Did the nazi's kill large numbers of innocent people? Yes. Do other govts kill large numbers of innocent people? Yes. The real question is - scale. Stalin and Mao make Hitler look like small potatoes. The "final solution" and the "6mil dead" fall apart under close examination. Most of the hitler camp deaths were due to lack of supplies while loosing a war. I honestly can't imagine even 1mil dead in the camps, there just wasn't enough time (in my opinion). Mao and Stalin had much more time to round people up and they weren't facing the US army while they were trying to do it.

ardvarcus ago

Mao and Stalin had much more time to round people up and they weren't facing the US army while they were trying to do it.

It's significant that neither Stalin nor Mao used poison gas to mass murder the people they killed. Their preferred method was a bullet to the head. Why? Because it's cheaper and easier.

anon9948 ago

I'm not sorry to inform you that "black book of communism" is atrocity propaganda too, and authors admitted that they faked death numbers. You know, cold war hate, oligarchs protecting their asses from the commies wanting to take them down, etc. the same thing you present.

murraryrothbard ago

Never heard of it. Are you attempting to defend the Bolsheviks?

Boyakasha ago

At least it's legal to discuss it. Amazing how the holohoax is the only event in world history that's illegal to question or debate. Every ridiculous claim must be accepted 100%, by law.

windsse ago

There are so many of these. A few years ago I never would have thought I'd think the holocaust was massively exaggerated.

Apathy ago

Holocaust was fake, got it.

10153458? ago

Seriously though. When the only evidence for the Holocaust in the first place hinges upon eye-witness testimonies, and one-by-one these testimonies are outed as fake, what remains but a blatant fabrication?

The term "holocaust" was not even used to describe WWII in any way until the 70s. Find me a reference in literature prior to 1970 that refers to WWII specifically.

And the fact that all of the death camps happened to be in territory that the Soviets ended up occupying after the war, that not a single camp the Allies inspected could have possibly been a death camp?

And the fact that initial numbers for Auschwitz in terms of Jewish deaths were around 4.5 million, which over the years reduced to less than one million, and yet the 6 million figure never changed?

And the Leuchter Report? And David Cole's documentary?

And the lack of a single formal order from Hitler stating anything about exterminating the Jews (or anyone!) despite the fact that the Allies seized millions of documents from the Nazis after the war?

There are too many inconsistencies, too many coincidences, and not enough actual evidence to possibly make an argument that the holocaust narrative is correct.

And yet everyone believes it.

Thereunto ago

The term 'holocaust of 6 million jews' was used as early as 1936 (pre-WW2) from the New York Times.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

Diogenes_The_Cynic ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KCKagd6Ihk

There you go you stupid Moldovan.

10157395? ago

What exactly is this supposed to prove?

The very skinny ones -- sick from typhus.

The pit (with, what, 100 bodies in it?) along with skinny the bodies on the ground: dead from typhus.

People happy to see Allied soldiers? They knew they would get to leave the camp. It was still war, they were minorities and Hitler did put them in camps, some of which were labour camps.

The few deaths that are actually accountable for are attributed to typhus, the louse-spread war disease that was an epidemic at the time. It killed hundreds of thousands...but no where near six million, and certainly not just Jews.

Diogenes_The_Cynic ago

You're not an American, are you?

This is a popular delusion among Eastern Europeans. Most Americans learn in high school about the Einsatzgruppen. They killed maybe a million people before the death camps were even built. Their wartime diaries were pieced together for the book Ordinary Men. Would you believe the Stroop report? Thats another primary source.

Do you think you're fooling anyone by claiming you don't believe the Holocaust? People aren't going to believe you. Maybe you can claim that you think this way since you're Eastern European, but you won't successfully use Eastern European arguments to convince Americans.

10159972? ago

What is the delusion?

Where are the bodies?

I'll look into the Stroop Report and Ordinary Men. No I'm not Eastern European, I just find far too many inconsistencies for the official narrative to be believed at all.

Of course many Americans would struggle to grasp what I'm saying; they've been subjected to propaganda since the 70s concerning the Second World War, and that includes their schools.

Those who have been pushing this narrative for decades gave dreamt up plenty of fabrications, but everything relies on words and hearsay -- never objective proof. Unsurprisingly more of these fabrications are outed as lies every year.

Flour ago

The holocaust never happened.

But it should've.

recon_johnny ago

Abso-fucking-lutely

eagleshigh ago

AND IT WILL...

Lobotomy ago

The Holohoax didn't happen.

But I want it to happen again.

10155566? ago

Getting gassed would certainly be more pleasant than living through this news cycle.

Boyakasha ago

1 down, 5,999,999 liars left to go.

MadWorld ago

If I were to become the president, my first priority wouldn't be building the fucking wall; it would be building the gas chambers and lining up the jews. Building the wall would be second priority.

Napierdalator ago

1 down, 5,999,999 liars left to go gas.

AOU ago

6 Gazillions

Diogenes_The_Cynic ago

Oh look, a comment that defies even simple logic. Totally shocked to see that here.

And yes I realize what this idiot is implying. Its just stupid.

Ajaxofbarbaria ago

Which form of GRIDS are you looking forward to dying from?

Diogenes_The_Cynic ago

It sounds like you are coming onto me, and I am not interested.

Ajaxofbarbaria ago

Check your privilege. You seem to think I'm a GRIDS. I wasn't offering you the gift.

Mooderator ago

I've never heard of creative mag you faggots