There are no credible witnesses to any of "the holocaust" events.
This is not true. It is the common knowledge in the Eastern Europe that Jews were exterminated by the thousands.
Though it is also known that horrors of the "death camps" were exaggerated (invented) a lot by the official Soviet History, which contained more fabricated falselyhoods than actual facts and from which so many Western scholars have drawn their information rendering their "scientific" works a pseudo-scientific nonsense which they will never admit.
sorry but "common knowledge" isn't proof and when you factor in all of the lies and what we for sure know about what did and did not happen the burden of proof becomes pretty high. but in any case, even if jews were exterminated by the thousands as you claimed, "the holocaust" never happened.
You know what? Old people still remember someone they knew who was brought to the forests and shot. Death marches existed. Whole towns were emptied by death squads herding Jews to execution places. Its just fucking indecent to deny that. If you grew up in the West where that did not happen it does not mean in didn't happen at all.
Of course all that Holocaust thing is twisted to the degree where it turns into a farce, but one must not jump from one extreme to the other.
even if jews were exterminated by the thousands as you claimed, "the holocaust" never happened.
Well. Depends upon what you mean by Holocaust. They were purposefully targeted and systematically exterminated. That's a fact. Whatever name you call it.
I don't quite know what I believe, but I am recognizing that a lot of it seems to be falsehoods.
So from what you've learned from the experiences of your elders, they were rounded up and killed in fairly large numbers? What would you wager the numbers were, tens of thousands? Or more than that, hundreds of thousands etc? Or like the official narrative, in the millions?
Any opinion about Jews being allowed to leave first?
They were purposefully targeted and systematically exterminated.
When one country goes to war with another, that country targets the other, does it not? Hitler waged war on a specific ethnicity, because of economic warfare being waged against his country by that ethnicity. From my understanding, he gave them more than fair warning to leave. This would not be the first time that Jews were forcefully expelled from another country, which is fairly rare as far as groups of people being removed from countries.
"The Holocaust" generally references six million jews being systematically executed. I don't believe that anymore. I wouldn't doubt that maybe at most tens of thousands were rooted out and killed, but I don't buy the gas camps. I feel they were most likely labor camps or just prison camps where disease broke out. Even back then, living through it, knowing what was propaganda and what wasn't could not have been easy. So I'm pretty skeptical about it all, mostly though because questioning it leads to imprisonment.
What would you wager the numbers were, tens of thousands?
Depends upon what area you are talking about. But in total I would not claim the official magic number of "6 million".
In Eastern Europe, in particular the USSR after 1941, they were not allowed to leave. They did not have were to leave.
A lot of the so called "death camps" actually indeed were just labor camps, pretty regular prisons or transfer camps, often even with rather acceptable living conditions, especially for the time of war.
A lot of "Holocaust Horrors" are proven to be fake. You know, the regular Leftist tactics - fabricate a story, write it down, claim it true. Voila! Now it is a fact. Even though any reasonable analysis or fact checking instantly finds faults, sometimes even laughable absurd. That is why it is so important for (((them))) to shut down the discussion.
And so on. It is a very broad and rather unpleasant topic to discuss. One of the most cynical and dirty stories of the modern era. A lot of decent Jewish people were indeed killed in the genocide, which was terrible, but then they were raped post mortem by the Holocaust Industry, and are still paraded around like some Halloween scares. I do not even know which is more disgusting.
Remember where the quote comes from? A guy posing as a Holocaust survivor wrote a book depicting horrors in the finest detail. The book was found to be a fake. The so called "Jewish community leaders" jumped in to defend him, saying that when he wrote it it was true in his mind, so he must have been speaking truth. Can you believe this level of utter arrogance? ... Chutzpah. Nothing can beat it.
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40hz ago
I tried watching this. It just tells a narrative completely different from the official one. How am I supposed to know which is true?
elitch2 ago
Well. All the "death camps" were found in Soviet territories. There are no credible witnesses to any of "the holocaust" events.
IT'S THE ONLY HISTORIC EVENT THAT IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE DISCUSSED UNDER PENALTY OF PRISON.
MasivGam3 ago
This is not true. It is the common knowledge in the Eastern Europe that Jews were exterminated by the thousands.
Though it is also known that horrors of the "death camps" were exaggerated (invented) a lot by the official Soviet History, which contained more fabricated falselyhoods than actual facts and from which so many Western scholars have drawn their information rendering their "scientific" works a pseudo-scientific nonsense which they will never admit.
jewshekelstein1488 ago
sorry but "common knowledge" isn't proof and when you factor in all of the lies and what we for sure know about what did and did not happen the burden of proof becomes pretty high. but in any case, even if jews were exterminated by the thousands as you claimed, "the holocaust" never happened.
MasivGam3 ago
You know what? Old people still remember someone they knew who was brought to the forests and shot. Death marches existed. Whole towns were emptied by death squads herding Jews to execution places. Its just fucking indecent to deny that. If you grew up in the West where that did not happen it does not mean in didn't happen at all.
Of course all that Holocaust thing is twisted to the degree where it turns into a farce, but one must not jump from one extreme to the other.
Well. Depends upon what you mean by Holocaust. They were purposefully targeted and systematically exterminated. That's a fact. Whatever name you call it.
Pissant ago
I don't quite know what I believe, but I am recognizing that a lot of it seems to be falsehoods.
So from what you've learned from the experiences of your elders, they were rounded up and killed in fairly large numbers? What would you wager the numbers were, tens of thousands? Or more than that, hundreds of thousands etc? Or like the official narrative, in the millions?
Any opinion about Jews being allowed to leave first?
When one country goes to war with another, that country targets the other, does it not? Hitler waged war on a specific ethnicity, because of economic warfare being waged against his country by that ethnicity. From my understanding, he gave them more than fair warning to leave. This would not be the first time that Jews were forcefully expelled from another country, which is fairly rare as far as groups of people being removed from countries.
"The Holocaust" generally references six million jews being systematically executed. I don't believe that anymore. I wouldn't doubt that maybe at most tens of thousands were rooted out and killed, but I don't buy the gas camps. I feel they were most likely labor camps or just prison camps where disease broke out. Even back then, living through it, knowing what was propaganda and what wasn't could not have been easy. So I'm pretty skeptical about it all, mostly though because questioning it leads to imprisonment.
MasivGam3 ago
Depends upon what area you are talking about. But in total I would not claim the official magic number of "6 million".
In Eastern Europe, in particular the USSR after 1941, they were not allowed to leave. They did not have were to leave.
A lot of the so called "death camps" actually indeed were just labor camps, pretty regular prisons or transfer camps, often even with rather acceptable living conditions, especially for the time of war.
A lot of "Holocaust Horrors" are proven to be fake. You know, the regular Leftist tactics - fabricate a story, write it down, claim it true. Voila! Now it is a fact. Even though any reasonable analysis or fact checking instantly finds faults, sometimes even laughable absurd. That is why it is so important for (((them))) to shut down the discussion.
And so on. It is a very broad and rather unpleasant topic to discuss. One of the most cynical and dirty stories of the modern era. A lot of decent Jewish people were indeed killed in the genocide, which was terrible, but then they were raped post mortem by the Holocaust Industry, and are still paraded around like some Halloween scares. I do not even know which is more disgusting.
Pissant ago
Did you hear about the Anne Frank costume controversy? Lol
MasivGam3 ago
How insensitive! "It was real in his mind!!!"
Remember where the quote comes from? A guy posing as a Holocaust survivor wrote a book depicting horrors in the finest detail. The book was found to be a fake. The so called "Jewish community leaders" jumped in to defend him, saying that when he wrote it it was true in his mind, so he must have been speaking truth. Can you believe this level of utter arrogance? ... Chutzpah. Nothing can beat it.