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40hz ago

I tried watching this. It just tells a narrative completely different from the official one. How am I supposed to know which is true?

Tallest_Skil ago

how do I know what truth is

Thanks, ✡western education✡!

SocialJusticePanda ago

Pull the stick out of your ass, it does not belong in there. Plus who are your current bankers. What are you told and why? What are you not allowed to be told and why? Never mind just give me my free gibs or I'll report you!

AnungUnRamaa ago

There is definitely a version where the narrative was altered. Watch it on the original website.

whisky_cat ago

I bought the DVDs and made it half way through. It was interesting seeing the story from the other side but sitting through any documentary that runs 5+ hours is asking a lot.

Personally I enjoyed reading the justice4germans blog instead because you can spend ~20 minutes a day getting your fill. Unfortunately it looks like that author isn't posting anything new, but perhaps they've posted as much as they felt was important.

RimeTheBard ago

Go read up on the Haavara Agreement and consider the implications thereafter.

jewshekelstein1488 ago

bingo.

lissencarak ago

Using critical thinking and the philosophical and logical tools they didn't teach you about in school?

pby1000 ago

Trust us. It is all true.

elitch2 ago

Well. All the "death camps" were found in Soviet territories. There are no credible witnesses to any of "the holocaust" events.

IT'S THE ONLY HISTORIC EVENT THAT IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE DISCUSSED UNDER PENALTY OF PRISON.

Mouse-Ball-Z ago

no credible witnesses....

Actually....

I lived in a small town in Kansas in the mid 90s. The VFW was a place where old ww2 vets hung out regularly. I was a kid, and Grandpa served on a ship in that war, so I had the rare privilege of going there with him and hearing stories directly from the source.

Once, there was this very old lady. She's dead now I believe, but her stories we're amazing. Long story short, she had witnessed, and survived, 'holocost events'. I personally, with my own eyes, saw her tattoo on her wrist. She was utterly convincing. She had lived through something horrible.

I know I'm just some anon on the internet and you're going to squeal insults attacking my story, that's fine, you have a right to free speech, but I'm telling you, I heard her story and shit went down for her.

elitch2 ago

The holocaust refers to the systematic murder of 6 million jews.

It was war, war sucks. Everyone who has lived in a war zone has horrific stories to tell.

The murder of 6 million, or even 1 million jews is a complete fabrication.

Mouse-Ball-Z ago

You have no special knowledge one way or another. All you have is an agenda. I have personally spoken with survivors. I have read the books. I have traveled to some of these places. I have listened to the opposing views.

All you are is a troll that, at best, landed on the erroneous side of an argument. Youre nothing and are not significant, fortunately.

Enjoy your place Ive put you in.

elitch2 ago

I have an agenda? What, pray tell, is my agenda?

Found the kike.

Mouse-Ball-Z ago

Your agenda is simply to be a troll. It makes you feel. Note that I didnt say 'feel good', just 'feel'. This is because you are emotionally and intellectually damaged. You may suspect this already. Its ok, you can still be a part of society. Or not. Your choice. Spoiler, it usually ends badly for you. But do whatever you want. We both know Im telling a deep truth about you.

Also, Im not a kike. If by that you mean I am a Jew, lol, I am not. Im an atheist.

Know what the difference between a kike dying and you dying is? I would care if a kike died.

elitch2 ago

Definitely a kike.

Kill yourself.

Mouse-Ball-Z ago

Predictable. Never change. Ive got you pegged, and I mean that in the 'bent you over and inserted an object in your ass' sort of way.

elitch2 ago

Only degenerate commie kikes talk like that.

Kill yourself.

Tallest_Skil ago

She was utterly convincing.

Congrats. You fell for a lie.

Mouse-Ball-Z ago

Or, she was telling the truth, and you're an example of what not to be.

That's really what it seems like. I'm sorta embarrassed for you.

I also chose to believe you have sex with trees. Prove me wrong.

Tallest_Skil ago

Nah, you were proven wrong. Reported.

Mouse-Ball-Z ago

Lol @ 'reported'. You have sex with trees. Admit it, or lie more and say you dont, tree fucker. I hear pine trees cant even feel your small dick.

Whitemail ago

Legally enforced history. Sounds legit.

MasivGam3 ago

There are no credible witnesses to any of "the holocaust" events.

This is not true. It is the common knowledge in the Eastern Europe that Jews were exterminated by the thousands.

Though it is also known that horrors of the "death camps" were exaggerated (invented) a lot by the official Soviet History, which contained more fabricated falselyhoods than actual facts and from which so many Western scholars have drawn their information rendering their "scientific" works a pseudo-scientific nonsense which they will never admit.

Tallest_Skil ago

This is not true.

It is, in fact.

It is the common knowledge

YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL.

in the Eastern Europe that Jews were exterminated by the thousands.

Prove it, then.

MasivGam3 ago

How do you want me to "prove" it, if I am "mentally ill" and it is "true in fact" anyway?

Earth is flat. Use your tin hat! Beware of chemtrails! Have a nice day!

Tallest_Skil ago

How do you want me to “prove” it

Do not post again until you know what proof is.

Earth is flat. Use your tin hat! Beware of chemtrails! Have a nice day!

Reported for COINTELPRO spam.

MasivGam3 ago

Go fuck yourself with a porcupine, you dumb shit.

Tallest_Skil ago

WAAAAAAAAAAA MOMMY THE BAD MAN BLEW THE FUCK OUT OF EVERY “ARGUMENT” I HAVE AND I CAN’T REFUTE FACT MAKE HIM STOOOOOOOOOOOP

Reported for COINTELPRO spam.

MasivGam3 ago

:) You are not mentally healthy. Or maybe you are drunk right now.

MasivGam3 ago

There is a mistake in the URL of the third link from the end. Please fix it.

Tallest_Skil ago

I don’t see a problem. What error are you getting? 503? 404?

MasivGam3 ago

He-he-he... Kept you busy for 5 minutes. :D

Tallest_Skil ago

Nope, too two seconds to click the link. It works. Reported for being mentally ill.

jewshekelstein1488 ago

sorry but "common knowledge" isn't proof and when you factor in all of the lies and what we for sure know about what did and did not happen the burden of proof becomes pretty high. but in any case, even if jews were exterminated by the thousands as you claimed, "the holocaust" never happened.

MasivGam3 ago

You know what? Old people still remember someone they knew who was brought to the forests and shot. Death marches existed. Whole towns were emptied by death squads herding Jews to execution places. Its just fucking indecent to deny that. If you grew up in the West where that did not happen it does not mean in didn't happen at all.

Of course all that Holocaust thing is twisted to the degree where it turns into a farce, but one must not jump from one extreme to the other.

even if jews were exterminated by the thousands as you claimed, "the holocaust" never happened.

Well. Depends upon what you mean by Holocaust. They were purposefully targeted and systematically exterminated. That's a fact. Whatever name you call it.

Tallest_Skil ago

You know what? Old people still remember someone they knew who was brought to the forests and shot.

TESTIMONY ISN’T FACT, YOU FUCKING KIKE FAGGOT.

Death marches existed.

Nah, life marches. They evacuated camps so that the commies wouldn’t kill everyone. That’s why FUCKING ELIE WIESEL ADMITS TO GOING WITH THE GERMANS INSTEAD OF STAYING BEHIND. YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT.

Whole towns were emptied by death squads

Didn’t happen.

herding Jews to execution places

Which didn’t exist.

Its just fucking indecent to deny that

Kill yourself before we get our hands on you or you’re going to WISH the holocaust had happened.

it does not mean in didn’t happen at all.

It didn’t happen. It is proven that it didn’t happen.

one must not jump from one extreme to the other.

Nah, blow your fucking brains out. One jumps to FACT AND FACT ALONE.

MasivGam3 ago

You are just plain dumb. And you give bad image to the people who actually want separate fact from fiction. And you are very useful to ((())) to portray all those who dispute their narrative as idiots. Because you certainly look like one.

Tallest_Skil ago

You are just plain dumb.

Not an argument. Thanks for admitting you were wrong.

And you give bad image to the people who actually want separate fact from fiction.

Not you, that is.

And you are very useful to ✡✡ to portray all those who dispute their narrative as idiots.

Nah, try harder, dipshit.

Because you certainly look like one.

Still not an argument. You can’t refute a single thing anyone here has said. We berate you because you’re supposed to be smarter than this to be called a human being.

elitch2 ago

MasivGam3 ago

Interesting. Thank you! Correlates with the claim that death camps were not death camps at all.

DeadFox ago

Yeah, people who were 10 at the time, and who have been subjected to 60+ years of outright propaganda will surely have an accurate account of history.

MasivGam3 ago

If they never believed the propaganda and personally knew those who perished they will.

Tallest_Skil ago

Except we’ve proven they’re all lies.

MasivGam3 ago

Congratulations then, I guess.

Tallest_Skil ago

Go the fuck back to reddit.

DeadFox ago

Noone is saying Jews werent shot and raped and other brutal things. We are debating the gas chambers, mass graves and "ovens" specifically. All things that only dead people couldve witnessed.

MasivGam3 ago

debating the gas chambers, mass graves and "ovens" specifically

Well, topic certainly worth debating. I just wonder if governments have ever provided any actual proof aside from "eyewitness accounts".

Pissant ago

I don't quite know what I believe, but I am recognizing that a lot of it seems to be falsehoods.

So from what you've learned from the experiences of your elders, they were rounded up and killed in fairly large numbers? What would you wager the numbers were, tens of thousands? Or more than that, hundreds of thousands etc? Or like the official narrative, in the millions?

Any opinion about Jews being allowed to leave first?

They were purposefully targeted and systematically exterminated.

When one country goes to war with another, that country targets the other, does it not? Hitler waged war on a specific ethnicity, because of economic warfare being waged against his country by that ethnicity. From my understanding, he gave them more than fair warning to leave. This would not be the first time that Jews were forcefully expelled from another country, which is fairly rare as far as groups of people being removed from countries.

"The Holocaust" generally references six million jews being systematically executed. I don't believe that anymore. I wouldn't doubt that maybe at most tens of thousands were rooted out and killed, but I don't buy the gas camps. I feel they were most likely labor camps or just prison camps where disease broke out. Even back then, living through it, knowing what was propaganda and what wasn't could not have been easy. So I'm pretty skeptical about it all, mostly though because questioning it leads to imprisonment.

MasivGam3 ago

What would you wager the numbers were, tens of thousands?

Depends upon what area you are talking about. But in total I would not claim the official magic number of "6 million".

In Eastern Europe, in particular the USSR after 1941, they were not allowed to leave. They did not have were to leave.

A lot of the so called "death camps" actually indeed were just labor camps, pretty regular prisons or transfer camps, often even with rather acceptable living conditions, especially for the time of war.

A lot of "Holocaust Horrors" are proven to be fake. You know, the regular Leftist tactics - fabricate a story, write it down, claim it true. Voila! Now it is a fact. Even though any reasonable analysis or fact checking instantly finds faults, sometimes even laughable absurd. That is why it is so important for (((them))) to shut down the discussion.

And so on. It is a very broad and rather unpleasant topic to discuss. One of the most cynical and dirty stories of the modern era. A lot of decent Jewish people were indeed killed in the genocide, which was terrible, but then they were raped post mortem by the Holocaust Industry, and are still paraded around like some Halloween scares. I do not even know which is more disgusting.

Pissant ago

still paraded around like some Halloween scares

Did you hear about the Anne Frank costume controversy? Lol

MasivGam3 ago

How insensitive! "It was real in his mind!!!"

Remember where the quote comes from? A guy posing as a Holocaust survivor wrote a book depicting horrors in the finest detail. The book was found to be a fake. The so called "Jewish community leaders" jumped in to defend him, saying that when he wrote it it was true in his mind, so he must have been speaking truth. Can you believe this level of utter arrogance? ... Chutzpah. Nothing can beat it.

jewshekelstein1488 ago

well i don't have that experience and i am not able to corroborate those claims. maybe there were isolated cases of what you are talking about. war is hell. lots of bad things happen. people die. it does not mean "the holocaust" happened. what i mean is the official narrative about the systemic extermination of 6 million jews. total bullshit. were jews targeted? yes. so were roma and vagrants and criminals and many others. german civilians and soldiers were ambushed and killed in various places. in some cases germans punished towns where this happened by killing a bunch of people. but the holohoax is still a lie.

MasivGam3 ago

The Holocaust Myth as it is popularized now is a lie. It was created for gaining profit and power, and is very effective at that. Fabricating evidence for it started as soon as the war was over, and possibly even before that. It definitely is one of the most effective deception campaigns in human history.

And the lot of arguments you mention are valid, Gypsies, Poles (most absurdly) also were targeted.

Still there was more than just "isolated cases", and that was not the "war is hell" type of story. It indeed was a systematic genocide of the Jews in particular. Please do not let the aversion caused by being force-fed the propaganda to make you reject reasonable information.

jewshekelstein1488 ago

don't misunderstand me. i strongly reject the narrative that jews were systematically targeted for genocide as a lie before the evidence doesn't support it and the people who push that narrative are proven liars. not because i would really care if it were true. i am in favor of genociding as many jews as possible.

UKD ago

Where does this doc diverge most from the official narrative in your opinion?

Cheesebooger ago

Just be careful where you ask these questions, depending on which country you are from because in some countries you can be put in prison for questioning the jews

mleczko ago

and that's the answer for you, right there.

SocialJusticePanda ago

In what country are they not watching?

Cheesebooger ago

Truth

UrAShillHarry ago

TFW ur fucking retarded

Cheesebooger ago

Jew mad, bro? YEAH!! JEW MAD!! AH AH ah

UrAShillHarry ago

dae le holocaust denial??? right guys?? it's ok, I'm also uneducated blue collar trash

Cheesebooger ago

Ahhh there's that word. "Uneducated". I love watching jewbags panic. please, proceed, sir

Hackerman ago

on the off chance you're NOT a paid shill, and are actually just THAT brainwashed: go do a google news search for people in the EU being sent to prison for saying that the holocaust never happened. 80+ year olds that are no threat to anyone

UrAShillHarry ago

they broke a law, they got sent to jail. fuck em. I don't see the issue

Tallest_Skil ago

hurr durr the government can make it illegal to be white and that means its okay for them to kill all white people ha ha it’s the law so it’s your problem not theirs

Commit suicide.

UrAShillHarry ago

TFW I trigger you this hard toppest of keks

CrudOMatic ago

toppest of keks

That was the faggotiest thing I've ever heard.

UrAShillHarry ago

oops did I le trigger you? ;)

AndrewBlazeIt ago

Hey bro, you wanna eat my balls?

UrAShillHarry ago

what a great comeback the niggers would be proud

AndrewBlazeIt ago

ye mane

UrAShillHarry ago

dude shut the fuck up

AndrewBlazeIt ago

No u

Tallest_Skil ago

you’re “triggered” because i got blown the fuck out

Reported. Return to reddit.

UrAShillHarry ago

lmao ur so salty!

Tallest_Skil ago

Reported. Return to reddit.

UrAShillHarry ago

OH SHIT REPORTED?? OOHHH NOOOOOO whatever will I do now? lol reporting me doesn't stop me from calling you a faggot, faggot. lolol that work out for you?

Tallest_Skil ago

Reported. Return to reddit..

UrAShillHarry ago

faggot lol

Tallest_Skil ago

Reported. Return to reddit..,

Dismal_Swamp ago

Next time try the double lip lock, middle leg take down.

jewshekelstein1488 ago

do your own research and ask questions. there are lots of goats who will gladly help you learn.

Bolux ago

While your at it you should check out Eisenhower's death camps.

SexMachine ago

This is the right answer.

With all the videos about the Holohoax, I didn't buy it at first, they wouldn't lie to us about history, would they? It's in the history books for crying out loud, that means people who know what they're talking about wrote it! I mean, 4 million people were gassed at Auschwitz, let me google that(pro-tip: Google now hides Holocaust revisionism from their search results, so you're going to have to dig harder if you want the truth). In the time since I graduated high school, the number of people supposedly died at Auschwitz went from 4 million to 1.1 million.... So... historians aren't always right... What else were they wrong about?

I'd say the biggest helping hand in my quest for truth was reddit, believe it or not. I immediately went to r//AskHistorians with this information i just learned. "If the death toll from the death toll from the Nazi death camps have all been drastically decreased in the past two decades, why hasn't the total number of Jewish victims been decreased from 6 million? Looking at all the new numbers from the concentration camp websites, it should be more like 2 million."

Banned for holocaust denial

.... Well isn't that (((fishy))). Why aren't I allowed to ask that question? That only pushed me to dig more and to find out more information.

jewshekelstein1488 ago

@40hz

this is one of my favorite videos on the subject. pretty good for redpilling normies. pastor steve anderson is the tits.

Did the Holocaust Really Happen?

SexMachine ago

I love that dude. He drops some bretty good redbills, but then he'll say some things that are just off the walls bonkers like, "The Jews are all going to burn in hell for not believing in Jesus Christ" - not a verbatim quote, but roundabout what he's said.

jewshekelstein1488 ago

taking that as an example, why is that bonkers? are you a christian? just curious.

SexMachine ago

Just when you're trying to redpill normies, you have to work them up to that level. You can't just start them out with "all gays and jews will born in hell".

I'd say I'm a non-practicing Christian. Lost faith a long time ago, but I still believe there is a God. Believing there is a God, isn't exactly believing in God. It's like, when you see firsthand real death, destruction, and outright horror that exists in this world, made me question why would God allow that.

jewshekelstein1488 ago

here's an amazing sermon if you're interested in what the bible says about homosexuality. great for debating and redpilling people who are (willfully) ignorant about this subject.

Pastor Steven Anderson - The Sodomite Agenda vs. Reality

jewshekelstein1488 ago

well that is what the bible says in no uncertain terms. i'm always willing to take it slow and explain to someone but if people have an issue with what the bible says that is their problem. and for all the horror in the world there is also infinite beauty. try not to focus so much on the negative aspects. and imho god "allows" things like that because he gave us free will. he told us how to live properly and gave us many chances and we refused to listen. those horrors you speak of are the responsibility of man, not god. it is wholly within our power to create heaven (or hell) on earth. i suppose you could question why he created such terribly flawed beings. i don't have all the answers but it doesn't shake my faith and i don't let it keep me awake at night. i will pray for you.

SexMachine ago

Some people find God on the battlefield, other people lose their faith.