On Mod Removal from v/videos (videos)

submitted ago by PuttItOut

@THC was removed as moderator from v/videos for the following reasons:

  1. Used a @system subverse as a personal platform

  2. Defacing the subverse CSS

@InnocentBystander was removed as designer on v/videos for maliciously modifying the subverse CSS in response to @THC's removal.

We decided to leave the sticky up since @THC felt so strongly about this that he would consider using a @system sub as a soapbox an acceptable course of action.

@Cynabuns doesn't have the power or authority to remove moderators and neither did she request either of you to be removed.

Bottom line is you thought v/videos was your personal subverse to do with as you please. You had issues with Voat asking for Janitors on @system subs and had issues when admins stepped in due to poor handling in the past.

You forced us to remove you and I'm more confident than not that this is the outcome you desired and why you did what you did.

On the paging limitation for those interested: https://voat.co/v/voatdev/1389285/6738688/10

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HomerSimpson ago

I missed drama? What happened.

Broc_Lia ago

THC got mad because atko and putt removed the ability to view comment history past page 19 (ddossers were exploiting it). No one else really noticed or cared, even after he made posts about it everywhere, so he made a post in /v/videos (where he was given mod powers to clean up spam) and stickied it. He also edited the CSS to advertise it more prominently.

Cynabuns made a post pointing out that he shouldn't be doing it and asked him to remove it. A few minutes later the admins de-modded him, so he ranted in protect-voat accusing cynabuns of having the power to de-mod people.

The thread went on all night and the conspiracy theories got crazier and crazier. People were taking the fact that atko hadn't responded as proof something shady was going on (even though it was 4am in Sweden). The next day both admins responded and clarified that they had removed him for spamming /v/videos and cynabuns had nothing to do with it.

HomerSimpson ago

(ddossers were exploiting it).

Someone in one of the threads made a point you can still exploit it by loading nonexistent pages which is the entire exploit anyway.

The thread went on all night and the conspiracy theories got crazier and crazier. People were taking the fact that atko hadn't responded as proof something shady was going on (even though it was 4am in Sweden). The next day both admins responded and clarified that they had removed him for spamming /v/videos and cynabuns had nothing to do with it.

They responded within a minute of cynabuns though. So why couldn't they make a statement then too?

Broc_Lia ago

Someone in one of the threads made a point you can still exploit it by loading nonexistent pages which is the entire exploit anyway.

Not quite. The way thing's were before, a user could have hundreds of pages, so a request for page 6519 of their comments would result in the server having to go back through the comments database trying to build a list of stuff which would eventually turn out not to exist.

The way things are now, the code can assume that any number over 19 doesn't exist, so it just auto-404s. It still consumes server resources, but nowhere near as much. So they can't crash the website anymore.

They responded within a minute of cynabuns though. So why couldn't they make a statement then too?

Atko covered that. It was late at night, and he had work the next morning. Also, he had no reason to suspect THC would successfully blow it up into some kind of huge controversy. The timing with cynabun was just a coincidence, it wasn't actually connected to them.