You're right, but that's almost always because of extremely fat individuals. Which is not something one would reasonably expect to find in a German prison camp.
For a better understanding of what went on, read my other, longer comment. Don't take my commentary to imply what happened is acceptable. It's not. Not in any way. But neither are the lies we've all been forced to swallow.
You can continue to reach all you want. You're still grasping at air. The vast majority of Jews agree they were fed and clothed upon arrival. Might many have perished in transport. Absolutely! But none of that supports your fantasy.
The problem with people such as yourself is that you seemingly take the position that if anyone offers facts they are denying everything. Which is, well idiocy. It's completely dishonest.
People such as myself who actually respect history are NOT claiming this is good stuff. Nor are we claiming no one died. The simple fact is, almost all available evidence confirms the official story is complete bullshit. Fantasy. Much of which has been recanted by Jews themselves. That doesn't mean people didn't die or that horrific things never happened.
Parts of every story are invalid. But a lot of jews disappeared, never to be seen again, and Hitler talked on radio broadcasts of a war of annihilation against jewry. They kept train records of the transports of the never seen again.
You most definitely are correct. Hitler's plan was to remove all aspects of Jews from Germany. But his anger was caused by central bankers and the jews who controlled the media. Who in turn were pushing propaganda against him.
Hitler's documented plan was the expulsion of Jews, the end of their control on media and society, and the end of Jewish banks and bankers; but especially including international central banking influence. Remember, these same banks and bankers were destroying German society as terms for surrender, following WWI.
At the time, globally, this was known as, "jewry." Globally, these sentiments were far from unique to Germany or even Hitler.
See, this is a much more productive discussion than what is even allowed through much of Europe. In case you don't know, in many cases, completely undisputed and legally recognized facts are illegal to use. Usage to adjust the narrative or even hold these such exchanges means imprisonment.
See this thread for past commentary and to better understand my position. AFAIK, this is fully supported by the historical record.
It actually came out of the British desire to keep Germany from being a competitor, leading to the British facilitating WWI, without which there wiuld have been no bolshevik rev or versailles.
Only 1 Rothschild, 1 jew involved. Churchill was very involved.
This is actually where things start to get very blurry. There are many fingers in the pie. Really depends on whos version of history you want to accept while knowing full well no one's version is likely completely accurate.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm simply offering that it's likely your comment and much more.
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murraryrothbard ago
Propaganda can suspend the laws of physics. Corpses can't be used as fuel to burn corpses....each person is about 3 buckets of water...
SayTan ago
Water evaporates and there are plenty of runaway crematoria fires at funeral homes. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5959700
RoundWheel ago
You're right, but that's almost always because of extremely fat individuals. Which is not something one would reasonably expect to find in a German prison camp.
SayTan ago
Once you get the fire going, with dehydrated indiviuals with typhus, your 3 buckets of water aren't there to stop it.
RoundWheel ago
Dehydration was generally not an issue. It was food, clothing, coal, sanitation, and medication which were the items largely in need.
Edit: Generally, those suffering from dehydration were suffering because of disease.
SayTan ago
But all the deniers say it was typhus/dysentery... Which tend to kill through dehydration as much as anything.
Y'all need a more consistent set of myths.
everef ago
Death due to dehydration occurs when the body loses 15-25% of its water.
RoundWheel ago
Read what I said. Nothing I stated contradicts these facts.
When you're vomiting of suffering from diarrhea, dehydration is common even when water is readily available.
It appears I was editing my comment at the same time you were creating yours.
SayTan ago
Therefore, they could easily lack 3 buckets of water on board, especially emaciated people.
RoundWheel ago
For a better understanding of what went on, read my other, longer comment. Don't take my commentary to imply what happened is acceptable. It's not. Not in any way. But neither are the lies we've all been forced to swallow.
https://voat.co/v/politics/2029512/10015211
RoundWheel ago
But this violates the time-line, invalidates all of the Jew statements claiming they were coal fired.
So basically, you now agree that the official story is invalid.
SayTan ago
People in the cattlecars had no food or water.
RoundWheel ago
You can continue to reach all you want. You're still grasping at air. The vast majority of Jews agree they were fed and clothed upon arrival. Might many have perished in transport. Absolutely! But none of that supports your fantasy.
The problem with people such as yourself is that you seemingly take the position that if anyone offers facts they are denying everything. Which is, well idiocy. It's completely dishonest.
People such as myself who actually respect history are NOT claiming this is good stuff. Nor are we claiming no one died. The simple fact is, almost all available evidence confirms the official story is complete bullshit. Fantasy. Much of which has been recanted by Jews themselves. That doesn't mean people didn't die or that horrific things never happened.
Again: https://voat.co/v/AskVoat/2010092/9911348
SayTan ago
Parts of every story are invalid. But a lot of jews disappeared, never to be seen again, and Hitler talked on radio broadcasts of a war of annihilation against jewry. They kept train records of the transports of the never seen again.
RoundWheel ago
You most definitely are correct. Hitler's plan was to remove all aspects of Jews from Germany. But his anger was caused by central bankers and the jews who controlled the media. Who in turn were pushing propaganda against him.
Hitler's documented plan was the expulsion of Jews, the end of their control on media and society, and the end of Jewish banks and bankers; but especially including international central banking influence. Remember, these same banks and bankers were destroying German society as terms for surrender, following WWI.
At the time, globally, this was known as, "jewry." Globally, these sentiments were far from unique to Germany or even Hitler.
See, this is a much more productive discussion than what is even allowed through much of Europe. In case you don't know, in many cases, completely undisputed and legally recognized facts are illegal to use. Usage to adjust the narrative or even hold these such exchanges means imprisonment.
See this thread for past commentary and to better understand my position. AFAIK, this is fully supported by the historical record.
https://voat.co/v/AskVoat/2010092/9911348
SayTan ago
It actually came out of the British desire to keep Germany from being a competitor, leading to the British facilitating WWI, without which there wiuld have been no bolshevik rev or versailles.
Only 1 Rothschild, 1 jew involved. Churchill was very involved.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/hidden-history-the-secret-origins-of-the-first-world-war/5600090
RoundWheel ago
This is actually where things start to get very blurry. There are many fingers in the pie. Really depends on whos version of history you want to accept while knowing full well no one's version is likely completely accurate.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm simply offering that it's likely your comment and much more.