https://voat.co/v/whatever/3432945/20638202
Ask me to answer your questions again.
sigh. here goes nothing.
Okay @Crensch @Vindicator @Heygeorge @Erickaliberhall @kingkongwaswrong
why did Crensch ban me? Can I appeal?
NOMOCHOMO Rule Violation in v/pizzagate: 1: Relevance; Description: Causing problems with the removal of things that have not been proven to be pizzagate. Using divisive tactics against the mods. Arguing dishonestly, even after being warned that this was not a joke. Constant pattern of disruptive behavior and supporting users like esoteric Crensch 10.9 hours ago
https://files.catbox.moe/q5grgu.jpg
-Swamp Takedown -> 24 hours Grace Relevancy
I ask for clarification as to why a person Vin calls "swamp" is deemed "irrelevant" by Crazy-Mensch
I thought "swamp" indicated Pizza/Pedos....hence it being a flair in pizzagate...I've also lurked for years as ya'll know....why I was confused as to why "Ed Buck" a name I know I'd read submissions on b4 was getting removed.
TLDR: Why am I banned for "relevance"....for defending a relevant post (edit2: and it's not my post)....
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NOMOCHOMO ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3535879
https://search.wikileaks.org/?query=&exact_phrase=correct+the+record+&any_of=&exclude_words=&document_date_start=&document_date_end=&released_date_start=&released_date_end=&order_by=oldest_document_date#results
Wikileaks demonstrates "correct the record" was used by official State Department channels 760 times as early as the 1973 PlusD cables
@shewhomustbeobeyed
Crensch ago
Good for you! I'm sure SWMBO is SO proud of you for finding that put.
NOMOCHOMO ago
so your claim of "uniqueness" ie: this phrasing "from" the CIA in 1984 and "was used to guide David Brock" = speculation
Given the EXACT same wording, I'd say it's worth looking into; Brock and his CTR could be CIA.
^[bolded statements are declarative] + [italicized statements are speculative]
Rule 2: Empiricism: Avoid baseless speculation
since the term didn't originate from CIA in 1984, your speculation has no base.
I'd be commenting this on your post. But you banned me for a comment.
@heygeorge @shewhomustbeobeyed @vindicator
Crensch ago
Aww, puddin'.
Luckily my post follows ALL the rules perfectly.
NOMOCHOMO ago
that's for @vindicator to decide
-Crensch
https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/3464523/20892904
Crensch ago
Not a chance. My two posts are more pizzagate than you've ever been.
ESOTERICshade ago
Newbies are so irritating when they don't know jack shit about the subject matter.
NOMOCHOMO ago
you can't spell pizzagate with Q.
both of your submissions are divination and speculation. Mine are researched and sourced.
Crensch ago
You post bullshit and then hope that you can post hoc Source it once you get called out.
Mine was fully sourced.
NOMOCHOMO ago
"Correct the Record" was established in 2015/2016
This document uses the same phrase in 1984.
therefore?
you have no argument.
Crensch ago
Are you trying to say you have specific evidence that correct the record was not named after the CIA terminology?
NOMOCHOMO ago
If the phrase predates 1984, and has been used by the State Dept since the 1970's, you haven't proven your TITULAR claim that it's "likely source document for David Brock's CTR"
Crensch ago
Are you trying to say that CTR isn't linked to the CIA?
NOMOCHOMO ago
I'm saying you must source your claims
otherwise they break the rules.
Crensch ago
I did.
I sourced them just fine. All of them.
NOMOCHOMO ago
your speculation is speculation until you
PROVE
David Brock was influenced by this CIA doc..
coincidence doesn't prove causation.
you make a causative claim.
Crensch ago
Are you saying it is unlikely?
NOMOCHOMO ago
I don't know. Until one of us can prove it, it is baseless speculation
Crensch ago
Do you realize you're asking of me what you wouldn't provide when I asked it of you when I was a mod?
NOMOCHOMO ago
Your selective memory is false. You remember whatever narrative you try to spin
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20731083
(P.S. You banned me for Rule 1: Relevance not Rule 2 Empiricism: Speculation)
did you really forget or are multiple users running your account?
@shewhomustbeobeyed @heygeorge @vindicator
Crensch ago
What I chose to put down as what I banned you for is immaterial. I was asking you for the same thing you're asking me for.
NOMOCHOMO ago
....not if you wanted to be credible, just and forthright. Why obscure the truth?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632494
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20632671
You didn't ask me for anything. you held a gun to my head.
Crensch ago
So you don't deny that you're asking me for the same thing I asked you for?
NOMOCHOMO ago
I categorically deny both claims.
I met your demands. I provided previous submissions to establish Relevancy. The post in question was deflaired.
You still haven't proven empirically proven your titular claim "Likely Source Documentfor brock's CTR"
Your claim is substantiated only by your own baseless speculation
Crensch ago
There was no relevancy to be had in those two posts.
It was a name sandwiched in with other info in submissions that did not in any way prove Buck to be a pedophile.
You didn't hold up shit until you got banned and figured out I wasn't going to back down. Now there's no mod that interprets the rules like I did, so looks like you're shit out of luck.
Happy days!
NOMOCHOMO ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20631962
I provided a third original pizzagate submission
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2054740
it includes a Buck Clinton and CIA connection, thus establishing relevancy...by your own gay standards
So you banned me after I established relevancy
Crensch ago
Your first link, @Vindicator responded:
Your second link is simply "young male prostitute" and says nothing of the age, meaning NOT PROVEN PEDOPHILIA.
No. These standards are YOUR standards, and those of your buddy SWMBO who fought tooth and nail to let your brand of horseshit into the sub.
Sorry. The changes in policy are not retroactive. I'm no hypocrite, but you certainly are. Things changed once I banned you, but you made sure you stayed banned because you're either an idiot, or a paid D&C shill.
ESOTERICshade ago
Which means your recent Qanon advertisement you posted to v/pizzagate should have been flaired and deleted. You should change your username to "hypocrite."
Crensch ago
You really should get with the program.
The users rejected my interpretation of the rules. So, thanks to you and your ilk, I can post the stuff and be just fine.
Enjoy the pizzagate you helped create.
ESOTERICshade ago
Seems to be happening to you a lot lately. Maybe its your petty behavior.
Crensch ago
This has been a long time coming. I know I'm going to enjoy the show, are you?
ESOTERICshade ago
Most of us are sitting back sayinnnn dammmmnnnnn..... is this meth binge ever gonna end?
https://voat.co/u/crensch/comments
Crensch ago
Sounds like you should ask your brother.
NOMOCHOMO ago
"NOT PROVEN PEDOPHILIA."
ok if that's the standard. your post is irrelevant.
CTR, David Brock, nor Q are "PROVEN PEDOPHILIA". they are all 1 degree of proof away
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
When the word 'celebrity' can be associated with their name.
Yes.
Yes.
Has been in the past.
Has been before.
no innocent person has ever donated to clintons.
Two points for inclusion of suspects, or two points to establish relevance? Or both?
NOMOCHOMO ago
Two points for inclusion of suspects, or two points to establish relevance of evidence? Or both?
^This discussion should be stickied. Not a disgraced Moderator's violent masturbations.
We should be attacking our ideas and arguments. Honing our message. So we can save more kids..... Instead Mod behavior instigates paranoid infighting, and promotes a Zero trust atmosphere.
Stop worrying about "the community" and giving "colonoscopies to elites" and waiting for Trump.
We got a lot more done when we focused on media exposure, not political machinations.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
I'm afraid I might have encouraged his masturbatory fantasies yesterday. I never have been around enough women to get the 'sugar and spice and everything nice' part figured out.
Crensch ago
Except the response to your banning confirmed that posts like mine are exactly relevant. So, thank you, for opening the door for me to post good content that Q people were convinced wouldn't be allowed. You and SWMBO are quite the team!
It already was, old boy! While you remain banned for numerous other cognitive failures, your legacy stands true, showing that my posts are exactly PG material.
I whould post some Q stuff on Epstein and Clinton!
You're fighting a fight that was already won, but sadly, you couldn't conduct yourself properly and now find yourself utterly irrelevant.
You know what? You're right! Let's add those that haven't yet been confirmed to be pedophiles that are within 1 degree of any known pedophile! There's TONS of those! Let's just inundate this sub with 1-degree losers that had the misfortune of rubbing elbows with childfuckers!
I don't think mods would give two shits about your opinions, honestly. But I'm enjoying myself immensely.
NOMOCHOMO ago
..you stepped down..because everybody was afraid to vote....because you ban indiscriminately.....while claiming the rules are "immaterial"
enjoy pizzagate?
you sick freak.
Crensch ago
I stepped down because I found out legit users were scared of me. Sounds like I'm a pretty decent guy! What does that make you?
Immensely now. I feel like I could post all kinds of things here now!
argosciv ago
I remember the last time someone tried to discourage voting by subverse users, by making claims that yourself and/or @Vindicator would ban/target people who didn't vote the way you wanted... pretty damn sure ES got busted voting multiple times and/or manufacturing consensus for the aforementioned narrative using his alts, no?
Why yes, yes he did.
What a coincidence that ES also pushed to redefine the "elite" element, like NOMO above.
@EricKaliberhall @MolochHunter
NOMOCHOMO ago
well you could ping me instead of asking rhetorically.
But you don't actually care. You seek to smear by association
argosciv ago
Only half accurate. You're right, I could ping you – if I was worried about a timely response. You were going to see it anyway and I'm quite content to wait for a response or get none at all (I also wasn't going to get a notification anyway, that I'm even seeing your comment is due to a simple check-in of my own recent comments).
I do actually care enough to genuinely wonder, though, and would be keen to see a fresh, solid rebuke of ES by you; including an explicit and concise condemnation of his fraudulent campaign against v/pizzagate moderators past and present (for which he did and continues to try to solicit support from unsuspecting v/pizzagate users) and his attempt to also use your complaints as a platform for said fraudulent campaign.
That'd at least be a start. If your concerns are legit, it should further concern the ever living fuck out of you when a proven-to-be-subversive user tries to hijack or leech off of your supposedly genuine position.
NOMOCHOMO ago
DO YOU DISAVOW ?????? DO YOU REBUKE_______????????
Broken Clocks. man.
I disagree with his tactics, behavior, and fakery.
Only thing I agree with him is the ideological premise that Q (as an anonymous person/group) has no place in an empirical investigation of Pizzagate.
(I believe it's a diversionary psy-op to corral users into a unified research pattern instead of blazing their own trails, and unearthing evidence)
I also rebuke you for being a self admitted gay wizard blood-drinker. Creepy.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
Unbelievable, this little cuck is so insecure, he hangs on every word someone who might criticize him says, and then tries to make believe like he's unconcerned. Kek.
Who the fuck does this little twerp think he is. He's a SATANIST. He doesn't disavow his Babylonian Religion, but now he thinks he has a right to demand that you disavow ES, repeatedly.
So this is your fault? I don't think he logiks 2 well.
You know what would be a good start. A rope. The problem in dealing with fagos has always been his steadfast insistence that everybody feel his pain and put themselves in his shoes, gotta understand how he's suffered, while inflicting pain on those around him and swimming in his own wet-brained delusions of grandeur.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
Now fagos and crunchy are targeting the women on PG, for their Mistress. Have you ever noticed that only effeminate males feel the need to seek out and attack women? Alpha boys would never even think the thought, let alone act on it.
Vindicator would never do it, he's a gentleman. I've never seen you do it, either.
Don't ever, it's very unappealing.
NOMOCHOMO ago
I only bully bullies.
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
Bullying bullies ought to be an olympics event. Fighting back against a bitch like me, isn't bullying. I call it self-preservation.
NOMOCHOMO ago
@heygeorge @vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed
Crensch ago
@vindicator
NOMOCHOMO ago
upvoat. I want him to see this too