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NOMOCHOMO ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3432234/20631827

@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed @darkknight111

https://www.wehoville.com/2019/01/09/ed-buck-recounting-history/

I found the motherlode that clearly ties Ed Buck to Pizzagate back in 2017

https://www.wehoville.com/2019/01/09/ed-buck-recounting-history/

EDITOR’S NOTE: This story originally was published by WEHOville in April 2017. Ed Buck now is back in the news because of the discovery of a dead African-American man in his Laurel Avenue apartment on Monday. This story recounts the history of this prominent white and gay West Hollywood man.

Who is Ed Buck? Those who follow politics in West Hollywood know him as the guy whose successful campaign for a ban on fur sales helped propel City Councilmember John D’Amico into office in 2011. He’s also known for his tenacious digging into City Hall records to make a claim that credit cards were being misused. And he is known for his financial support for local, county, state and national Democratic Party candidates.

Another side to Buck has come to light lately with the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department announcing it is opening an investigation into the death in Buck’s Laurel Avenue apartment on July 27 of a young African-American man named Gemmel Moore, who was a self-confessed prostitute. The L.A. County Coroner’s Office had ruled the death an accident caused by an overdose of methamphetamine, a highly addictive and dangerous drug that is popular among some gay men. The Sheriff’s Department says that drugs and drug paraphernalia were found at Buck’s apartment.

That side of Buck has drawn little comment from local political figures, although the Stonewall Democratic Club, an LGBT political group, last week asked Buck to step down from his position on its steering committee. But it has attracted a lot of attention from the right-wing media here and abroad, including publications such as the Drudge Report; TruNews, a Christian news site; Political VelCraft, a right-wing conspiracy site, and Voat.com, a website that promotes conspiracy theories such as PizzaGate. Stories on those sites call out Buck’s financial support for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, his homosexuality, his alleged attraction to young African-American men and his alleged drug use.

Recently LGBT African-American activists also have begun to speak out, calling for an investigation into Moore’s death. Ashlee Marie Preston, the transgender African-American editor of “Wear Your Voice,” an online feminist publication, has written about an odd experience she had with Buck. “Moore’s death is centered around power dynamics, a wealthy white politico and his deadly fetishization of disenfranchised black men,” Preston wrote. And Jasmyne Cannick,a black communications and public affairs strategist, has called out Moore’s death on her website with the headline “Journal Documents How Wealthy Democratic Donor Hooked Young Black Gay Man on Meth Before His Death.”

Edward Bernard Peter Buckmelter (he changed his last name to Buck in 1983) was born into a middle-class family in Steubenville, Ohio, on Aug. 24, 1954. When he was six he moved with his parents, a brother and two sisters to Phoenix, Ariz. “My childhood was uneventful as hell,” he said in an interview with the Arizona Republic in June 1987.

Ed Buck in 1987 (Arizona Republic)

Buck attended a Catholic elementary school and graduated from North High School and Phoenix College. Buck has described his father as a “longtime alcoholic.” As a child, Buck himself was a handful according to his mother, who was interviewed in October 1987 by E.J. Montini of the Arizona Republic. “The dean of boys had a hot line to my phone at work,” she said, speaking of Buck’s high school years. “I’d answer the phone and say, ‘All right, what is it this time?’”

Buck came out to his parents as gay at the age of 16 and, while attending college, won a three-month internship that took him to Yugoslavia. In his profile, the Arizona Republic’s Montini says that a year after that Buck returned to Europe and was offered a spot as an extra in a TV commercial. Buck stayed in Europe for five years, living in Paris and Amsterdam, where he worked as a fashion model and appeared in movies and magazines. He also modeled in Japan for Wrangler jeans. Buck returned to Arizona in 1980 and began working for a friend as a bicycle courier.

In his interview with Montini, Buck said he worked for the Arizona franchise of Rapid Information Services, a business owned by a friend that provided driver’s license information to insurance companies. Despite his lack of business experience, and the business’s poor financial situation (his friend ran it out of a one-bedroom apartment), Buck saw great potential in it. A year and a half after joining and helping build the business, Buck bought it out of bankruptcy for $250,000 and renamed it Gopher Courier. Five years later he sold it for what he said in another interview was “more than a million dollars profit.”

Very wealthy at the age of 32, Buck took risks, opening a restaurant and getting into the pay telephone business, on both of which he lost money. He owned a $280,000 house on top of a hill near Squaw Peak (now known as Piestewa Peak), a mountain outside of Phoenix. He also, according to a story in the Gayly Oklahoman newspaper, had entered into a relationship with a Chippendale dancer.

Buck found new meaning in his life with the election in 1987 of Evan Mecham, a Republican, as Arizona’s 17th governor. Mecham was a controversial figure, not least because of his decision to end Martin Luther King Day as a paid holiday for state employees, his claim that high divorce rates were caused by women holding jobs and his description of African-American children as “pickaninnies.” Then there were the accusations that he misused state funds and failed to disclose a $350,000 campaign loan.

Ed Buck named Grand Marshal at the International Gay Rodeo’s 1989 Arizona event.

Buck launched a successful effort to impeach Mecham, leading the Arizona Republic to describe Buck as a “millionaire, self-acknowledged homosexual and registered Republican” who was “destined to go down in history as one of Arizona’s most unlikely political figures.”

The impeachment campaign was a rough one, with Buck attacked because he was gay. It also resulted in publicity about Buck’s arrest for “public sexual indecency” in an adult bookstore in 1983. Buck pleaded guilty and paid a fine, and the charge was dismissed. He claimed a cop had seen him grab the crotch of a friend. Buck also was called out for trying to get a drugstore to fill a fake prescription for Percocet, a highly addictive drug that contains oxycodone. In an interview in 1988 with the Washington Blade, Buck said he had made a copy of an existing prescription and needed to fill it because of pain from a root canal. Buck was indicted by a Maricopa (Ariz.) County grand jury on a charge of “attempting to obtain a narcotic through fraud or deceit.” A judge agreed to dismiss charges against Buck if he would be tested weekly for drug use for one year.

Given that Buck was openly gay, and that Mecham was known as homophobic (he once said during a radio interview that he would ask for a list of gay state employees, implying he would fire them), Buck became somewhat of an LGBT community hero. In 1989, for example, he was named Grand Marshal of the International Gay Rodeo in Arizona. Yet Buck didn’t identify with some parts of the gay community. In his interview with the Washington Blade, Buck criticized some for their flamboyance. “We dress up, we see guys in their best leather, others in their best dresses, marching down the street,” he said. “These people do not represent the majority of gay people, who would never wear costumes. And it drives the semi-closeted and moderate gay people underground.”

Switching Parties

In 1988 at a Republican Party conference in Oklahoma City, Buck called for changes in the party’s “intolerant” stand on LGBT rights in Oklahoma, which included opposition to state-mandated sex education programs in schools. Unable to make major changes in his political party, Buck soon switched allegiances. In an online post in 2010, he explained his decision. “I didn’t leave the Republican Party, it left me. I can remember Barry Goldwater saying ‘out of the boardroom and out of the bedroom’ when referring to the role of government. That’s the GOP I was a proud member of … My principals have not changed, but to keep true to them, my political party had to change.”

Vindicator ago

I found the motherlode that clearly ties Ed Buck to Pizzagate back in 2017 and Buck to Sexualizing Children in 1988.

Excellent. This is exactly why we flair posts. You are an excellent digger, Nomo. I wish you had just given DK a hand and posted this instead of creating drama.

NOMOCHOMO ago

The only reason I found it is because I was banned....Not because of either of your flairs.

I asked @Crensch a question. He repeatedly evaded with counter questions.

Ego, bruised from the questioning, He then made my membership dependent on proving another users' post.

Crensch's Unprecedented Whim became a user-specific guideline. A Dangerous Despotic Precedent

Repeating a question to a Mod is "baiting" them?

Different Mods hold different users to different standards?

The reason given for my ban is Rule 1: Relevance.

Even though you edited Rule 1 last night (cut/pasting "NSFW" from Rule 5), you didn't change "relevance" to apply to comments. It is a submission standard.

To ban a user for a comment that doesn't fulfill a submission guideline is comment censorship.

Because Relevance does not apply to comments. You changed Rule 5 from "NSFW" to "Comment Abuse" without notifying the pizzagate community.

I am shining a light on Moderation. Any scrutiny is framed as "drama".

Unban me. I broke no rules.

I wont break your Modified Rule 5, but please announce it.

kestrel9 ago

Show us how exactly that link demonstrates that Ed Buck is a pedophile, or is part of a pedophile ring, or the victim of pedophiles.

@vindicator @crensch

NOMOCHOMO ago

state-mandated sex education programs in schools.

Sex Ed in Schools is an organized Pedo Push originating in California in the 60's

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3400765/20341107

ties to sex ed in school and pizza code:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2581515

Mandated Sex Ed in schools is by definition, State Sponsored Sexualization of Children. Siecus is now pushing "pedophilia" as an orientation

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3171546

kestrel9 ago

Show how Ed Buck is involved supporting NAMBLA philosophy being taught in school or other 'love is love' and age doesn't matter philosophy. He has been shown to be a gay serial killer targeting black gay men in their 20s. Period.

All gays support teaching gay sex ed in school, doesn't mean they are pedophiles. He's a serial killer. Not giving him ah pass. But not giving you a pass on insisting that you make your own case if you think he's a pedophile or if you have connections showing him being connected to Adam Schiff beyond making campaign contributions, most all Democrats donate to Democrat politicians. The Ed Buck arrest post belonged in PGWE, not PG.

Al Vernacchio is a teacher, preK-12 Sexuality Education Coordinator, and chair of the Upper School English Department at the elite Friends' Central School in Wynewood, PA.

Sex ed teachers may include pedophiles, not all sex ed teachers are pedophiles, and this particular has not been shown to be connected to Ed Buck.

To my knowledge, State Sponsored sex Ed has yet to push for pedophilia as a current acceptable social policy, (that kids should be okay with having sex with adults 'if they want'), they may cover it in some historical context as a gateway towards that goal (we know pedos do push for expanded assess to kids through education and any other venue they can think up). That much is true. Is that connection enough to confirm that Ed Buck is a pedophile? I don't think so.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Show how Ed Buck is involved supporting NAMBLA philosophy being taught in school or other 'love is love' and age doesn't matter philosophy.

I ALREADY DID: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/3433526/20647245

Ed Buck here, 25 years older, and many centuries wiser. When we recalled Mecham, I was still a Republican. I didn't leave the Republican Party, it left me. I can remember Barry Goldwater saying "out of the boardroom and out of the bedroom" when referring to the role of government. That's the GOP I was a proud member of. Then I can remember Newt's "Contract with America". I wonder if we can sue the GOP for violating the terms of our agreement. My principals have not changed, but to keep true to them, my political party had to change.

Ed Buck-West Hollywood.

Fundamental to Pizzagate is the belief that a valid government has the authority to say no child rape happens in your bedroom....Anybody arguing for government enforcing anything else is arguing for pedophilia.

Ed Buck is Pizzagate. Period

All gays

false. You don't speak for gays.

All gays support teaching gay sex ed in school, doesn't mean they are pedophiles

"sex education" is a NAMBLA philosophy being taught in schools. Sex Ed was started by Mary Calderone and SIECUS in the 60's it was connected to Dr John Money (Pedophile) and other prominent Psychologists and Sexologists

kestrel9 ago

How do you know whether Ed Buck telling Republicans to go for NAMBLA philosophy in the schools in 1988?

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/3433526/20648130

He was pushing for gay rights and AIDS awareness. I realize that pederasty is associated with some gay men. Are you assuming they are all pederasts now? Do you just 'know' which gays support pedophilia and pederasty based on who wants sex ed about homosexuality and AIDS awareness in the schools?

Buck said Oklahoma and Arizona are the only states he knows of that have faced the issues of homosexuality and AIDS education in their political charters.

So the Oklahoma politicians in 1988 who faced the issues Ed Buck brings up (homosexuality and AIDS) are pederasts? (maybe they are, did you check on any?)

Buck said Surgeon General Dr. C. Everett Koop suggests in a report that AIDS education must be taught beginning at the lowest grade level possible as part of any health program.

Is Surgeon General Dr. C. Everett Koop a pederast by your criteria? (maybe he is? who knows but the point is this alone doesn't prove it).

There were plenty of Republican pederast in 1988, so why didn't Ed Buck stick with the party?

Franklin child prostitution ring allegations - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations

The Franklin child prostitution ring allegations began in June 1988 in Omaha, Nebraska and attracted significant public and political interest until late 1990, when separate state and federal grand juries concluded that the allegations were unfounded and the ring was a "carefully crafted hoax.".

If anything, maybe Ed Buck was covering for them by saying they were too 'moral'. That's an intriguing line of thought.

If he was a pederast seems he'd want Republicans to stay in power.

He may belong in PGWE, still have not seen enough close connections to show that he is a pederast/pedophile or a victim of such or specifically knew that any of his friends were. Or even any incidence of people talking about him liking teenage boys or having pics of them, or subscribing Nambla material or even having CP on his computer.

NOMOCHOMO ago

The Sex Ed agenda is Pizzagate.

Children don't need THE STATE which mandates their attendance in public schools to teach them about sex.

it is the role of the parent.

Ed Buck wants the "government out of his bedroom"

but he also wants the government to enforce kindergarten education about his bedroom.

I dont disagree that he could be covering up for Franklin scandal.

But his advocacy of sex education is a part of the elite propogation and normalization of child sexuality. The history of this strategy has been well documented and found "relevant" to the pizzagate investigation.