I think you've made excellent points. I do think the quality of the posts has declined due to the hard investigative type of post disappearing. Either videos with journalists rehashing what's already been said are posted, or straight up news stories with no commentary. While both of those are completely valid and part of pizzagate, it was the investigative style that uncovered all the evidence.
While that's one variable that's leading to the decline, the other is: shills and shill posts. Not sure what can be done about this other than voating up the valid posts, downvoating shit, and not making comments in it either. If you make a negative comment, it's still treated as activity in that thread so please don't do it.
But I really think the heart of the problem is pizzagaters getting back to solid investigative posts. Uncover new evidence. When you do, I notice that it's quickly spread amongst the entire community and that's when the active users jump. But for a news headline? Well, unless it's news nobody heard of, or a breaking story, people can pretty well get that from any news source, so let's get back to the hard core investigation of the key players: Alefantis and his friends, the Pedostas, throw the kids into the pool Luzzatto, the Cannibal Queen, and all the pervs in Pedo/RapeyWood.
I've been entirely guilty of posting the quickie threads because of the time element. I started to work on a couple of things (and Dear Lord please let me have saved all the links I found), but it takes hours to compile and write a comprehensive overview of what point you're trying to make. But even with my sporadic forays into the dark world of this revolting story, there is so much we haven't uncovered.
Maybe it would be good if we teamed up. That idea was presented a while back, but I haven't seen it done. I was hoping for some of the excellent investigators that I know hang out here to really dig into one subject and go at it from all angles. I would love to see that done, but even if it isn't, please let's get back to what made this story compelling and investigate the core of this rotten apple. Don't get thrown off by people telling us that we need to be going to Belgium to find anything. On the contrary, what we find here, in the dirty little center of the soul-less beings haunting the corridors of power, will lead us to where we need to go and not the reverse.
I got the idea of teaming just before you wrote it. I've done that with a couple people here spontaneously (like with the recent Podesta/pool/child porn post) and it really is the way to go. I wanted help from others and realized we don't have a forum for asking for assistance. What if we made a new sub v/pizzagateinvestigations where each new thread was a separate area of investigation (sticking to your parameters, aka our roots - the emails & subsequent finds) and people could weigh in and help. For instance with the Podesta post, I was able to use people's suggestions, insights, comments, to keep adding to the article. It really helps if we put our minds and energy together. People can burn out easily, and people who are victims of pedophiles can experience brain freeze when dealing with this stuff. I sometimes black out completely, but when there is a team, others can pick up the slack and keep the ball rolling.
Absolutely, the subverse would work. The thing is people's brains work differently. You get a few people attacking the problem from different angles, you're going to cover things you wouldn't normally. I want to go back to the old school key players, and there's someone that turned up that should be revisited. But, yeah, subverse, please. Let's get things rolling. Obviously, it's investigation that people want to read. It's why so few people are voating and viewing.
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quantokitty ago
I think you've made excellent points. I do think the quality of the posts has declined due to the hard investigative type of post disappearing. Either videos with journalists rehashing what's already been said are posted, or straight up news stories with no commentary. While both of those are completely valid and part of pizzagate, it was the investigative style that uncovered all the evidence.
While that's one variable that's leading to the decline, the other is: shills and shill posts. Not sure what can be done about this other than voating up the valid posts, downvoating shit, and not making comments in it either. If you make a negative comment, it's still treated as activity in that thread so please don't do it.
But I really think the heart of the problem is pizzagaters getting back to solid investigative posts. Uncover new evidence. When you do, I notice that it's quickly spread amongst the entire community and that's when the active users jump. But for a news headline? Well, unless it's news nobody heard of, or a breaking story, people can pretty well get that from any news source, so let's get back to the hard core investigation of the key players: Alefantis and his friends, the Pedostas, throw the kids into the pool Luzzatto, the Cannibal Queen, and all the pervs in Pedo/RapeyWood.
I've been entirely guilty of posting the quickie threads because of the time element. I started to work on a couple of things (and Dear Lord please let me have saved all the links I found), but it takes hours to compile and write a comprehensive overview of what point you're trying to make. But even with my sporadic forays into the dark world of this revolting story, there is so much we haven't uncovered.
Maybe it would be good if we teamed up. That idea was presented a while back, but I haven't seen it done. I was hoping for some of the excellent investigators that I know hang out here to really dig into one subject and go at it from all angles. I would love to see that done, but even if it isn't, please let's get back to what made this story compelling and investigate the core of this rotten apple. Don't get thrown off by people telling us that we need to be going to Belgium to find anything. On the contrary, what we find here, in the dirty little center of the soul-less beings haunting the corridors of power, will lead us to where we need to go and not the reverse.
V____Z ago
Absolutely 1,000 times YES to every word.
I got the idea of teaming just before you wrote it. I've done that with a couple people here spontaneously (like with the recent Podesta/pool/child porn post) and it really is the way to go. I wanted help from others and realized we don't have a forum for asking for assistance. What if we made a new sub v/pizzagateinvestigations where each new thread was a separate area of investigation (sticking to your parameters, aka our roots - the emails & subsequent finds) and people could weigh in and help. For instance with the Podesta post, I was able to use people's suggestions, insights, comments, to keep adding to the article. It really helps if we put our minds and energy together. People can burn out easily, and people who are victims of pedophiles can experience brain freeze when dealing with this stuff. I sometimes black out completely, but when there is a team, others can pick up the slack and keep the ball rolling.
quantokitty ago
Absolutely, the subverse would work. The thing is people's brains work differently. You get a few people attacking the problem from different angles, you're going to cover things you wouldn't normally. I want to go back to the old school key players, and there's someone that turned up that should be revisited. But, yeah, subverse, please. Let's get things rolling. Obviously, it's investigation that people want to read. It's why so few people are voating and viewing.
And did @pizzagatedetective make that invitee list?