The Palantir/YCombinator Voat is Unsafe shill narrative from 2016 has morphed into "PIA VPN & Voat Sold to Jew Pornographers":
https://archive.ph/dy0fh
That's Nomochomo bragging about creating Moonmooch to "infiltrate" PG and GA in order to discredit Crensch, asking for upvotes in GA, in discussion with R3BIRTH. We'll get to the big picture about what they are up to in a minute.
Moonmooch posted the thread about moderation to GA at 7:47am on 3/2/20 https://archive.ph/ZMYrc
But it was DanglingGoatBalls -- the supersneaky "Baiis" account -- who posted the exact same thread to pizzagate last night about fifteen minutes apart. Here's a screencap of the pg modmail removal: https://files.catbox.moe/xfnjpf.png
In case you missed it because you were busy investigating globalist child rapists instead of those here to derail our exposure of them, DanglingGoatBalls -- two L's -- is our old saboteur EsotericShade, who showed up with a renewed gaslighting campaign the minute I started investigating Abigail Wexner.
You may recall that ES deployed multiple sock puppet accounts to manipulate consensus by pushing content he agreed with and trying to censor content he didn't like. This involved attacking, smearing, lying about, vote brigading and intimidating some users. It also involved posing as a victim and an expert in order to win the trust and support of others (grooming). Some of those groomed found themselves later being attacked by his alts. Others found themselves used by him as human shields when he manipulated them into joining his brigading efforts, an operation designed to create collateral damage when Crensch and I and the rest of the mod team exposed him.
Voat has very few rules, but vote manipulation is absolutely unaccaptable, as CEO and admin @PuttItOut notes here:
"Voat bans manipulation, and this includes vote farms/farmers, because it destroys the credibility of our platform."
Subverse owners and moderators have three tools to deal with such abuses:
- We can expose and reprimand the behavior and ask the user to delete his account.
- We can flair his username with a warning badge.
- And we can ban him and his alts.
We tried number one, but ES refused to take responsibility for his actions and tried to slip back into the community as if nothing happened. We tried option two, but he made the GoatBalls account and resumed his work. That leaves option three, banning, which I have now done.
ES/GoatBalls takes great pride in his ability to deceive and manipulate...so much that he eventually has to brag about how smart he thinks he is. Recently, he felt compelled to boast about he and Kevdude spamming the board with shitposts to turn Millennial_Falcon into a ban-happy deletion machine so they could "put Vindicator in power." This is a lame attempt to associate yours truly with two of the biggest shills in Voat history, part of their overarching goal to convince PG and GreatAwakening contributors that Voat is compromised to discourage us from documenting globalist crimes.
Which brings us to their misadventures yesterday. They are pushing the idea that Voat's days are numbered, because the angel investor Putt announced last year "must" be the VPN provider that offered free trials to a few goats, PIA, despite zero evidence of that being true.
This is part of a long-term "Voat is compromised" narrative related to PIA that was initiated nine months ago by Nomochomo. You can see me pointing it out then. He doubled down and began insinuating Voat is now controlled by an Israeli pornographer in November when PIA (the VPN provider) merged with cybersecurity company Kape. Nomo characterized this as PIA being controlled by a Jewish porn producer, despite himself quoting the fact that Kape's Teddy Sagi actually lost a significant amount of control in the merger. He has yet to produce any evidence any of these companies are invested in Voat. A quick look at Nomo's history shows he loves to harass PuttItOut.
Those of you OG pizzagaters will recognize this is exactly the same campaign that shitposters ran here involving "Y Combinator". Y Combinator is a tech incubator -- venture capital for tech startups by the Palantir guy, Peter Thiel. Voat received a small grant from it when they first started. It was one of the first tools used at the very beginning to try to attack PG mods and sow distrust in the mod team and Voat when they booted us from Reddit. Get a load of those pushing it. Whaddya know! EsotericShade. TrustTheTruth. Hojuruku. Nomochomo. All the guys who've tried to derail our work. They're running the same old playbook, folks.
I have suspected Moonmooch was Nomo's new sockpuppet since he first appeared. It amused me quite a bit to have a shill posting legit research and help build our amazing cache of dirt on the pedovores, and he wasn't causing any trouble. That all changed with this latest play by the Voat is Compromised Disinformation Team, so Moon gets the boot, as well.
One final element: R3BIRTH fucked up yesterday afternoon and admitted to being Kev while swinging his dick talking to me:
[–] Vindicator 6 minutes ago
Then, Hi Kev. Must have sucked to have to kill that powerful account of yours. LMAO
[–] R3BIRTH [S] 3.2 minutes ago
You really think that phased me?
Think of it like an onion: you peel back one layer, and maybe there's a stench. It stings your eyes a bit, kind of irritates. But, once you chop the fucking onion you start crying, wondering why you even attempted that.
This is the situation you find youself in. I allowed you to peel a little, but you'll soon find that the power I have simply cannot be taken without everyone in tears.
He can't help crowing about the damage he thinks he's done and the power he thinks he has. (Yet here he is pretending not to be Kev with his PV buddies). Since Kev allowed ES and Hojuruku to maraud at will disrupting our work and claims to be behind the latest anti-Voat psyop, R3BIRTH won't be joining us here any longer, either. :-)
Last week, they tried to drown my Wexner submission with drama, and I gave them a little history lesson. This is what it's really all about: disrupting research.
Please have a look at that first thread again, folks. Read through what I've presented, here. They are pushing the same Shareblue narrative that's been used since the beginning of this subverse: "Voat is compromised". Yet none of our research has been deleted. I freely link people to it on Twitter all the time. The same research that Putt linked on the "Voat is on Fire" page because it was being DDoSed last summer. Wexner was also a topic in that Junkerman research, just sayin'.
Carry on, people. Stay frosty. I'll do my best to expose the fuckery. You know we are doing something right when they go to this much trouble. :-)
Give 'em Hell!
EDIT: https://archive.ph/UE4Kj and https://archive.ph/wip/a5lZ3
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BrennKommando ago
Scroll down to How can I contact you? and look up the email address that used to be [email protected] but is now [email protected]. Now scroll down to Technology and there you will find the link to the domain edon.garden. Then have a look around Here. Those are facts!
The part about Voat shutting down or rebranding to a Jew friendly version on the other hand is admittedly still just speculation on my part. Between Putt distancing himself from Voat, cynabuns also disappearing, Voat being overrun by spambots and actual shills no longer needing ccp to post and statements from another PIA related asset such as this, you have to admit something is terribly off with the state of Voat. Something that to me looks very much like by design.
I could be wrong of course, let's hope I am, but if I'm right there are people here on Voat that deserve a fair chance to set up a backup plan.
argosciv ago
You do realize that Voat has been using Edon assets/tech since before PIA made any offer to Voat users, right?
The "Voat" compromised agenda has been running under various auspices, from the same people who continue to use this site, for years. Nothing about the claim that Voat's free speech/privacy ideals are under threat has ever held any weight. Notice that people are still free to say whatever controversial shit they want, up to an including spreading fear-mongering bs.
Nobody is stopping anyone from making their backup plans and nobody is forcing anyone to stay on a site they do not trust.
BrennKommando ago
I know it's easy to get tunnel vision, but I'm not part of the fear mongering narrative. There are about 10 of us that have intentionally stayed quiet about this for 2 months precisely because we knew the outcome of bringing it out into the light. Had everything been fine in Voatland it would have remained that way, but we had time against us if things really are as we suspect.
As for the about link I refer to it because it was changed very recently despite not being on the main page.
http://web.archive.org/web/20190207074903/https://www.voat.co/about
And lets have a look at the oldest post mentioning Edon and Voat while we are at it.
https://searchvoat.co/?st=comments&t=edon&b=on&nsfw=on&o=on
argosciv ago
Should have responded to this in my previous comment, but:
Actually, I'm referring to the fact that edon has been in the site's scripts for ages. I've delved into the site's front-end code many times out of curiosity, long before the whole PIA thing, and edon has been present since before then if I recall correctly.
BrennKommando ago
Possibly. But it didn't become a separate entity till very recently. I would never have found the link if edon.garden didn't suddenly have it's own domain. At any rate I think it's nitpicking over an irrelevant detail. There are some solid aspects of Voat's code so that would naturally be reused for a new platform. One I could fear us "vile Nazi's" might not be welcome on.
So you see my concern isn't about Voat being a honeypot or not. It's about having a platform altogether in a world that clearly would like to see us deplatformed from everywhere.
argosciv ago
Wrong. The page is unused. So who edited it and when is very relevant, given that it is being used as the basis for the claim about Voat being compromised over news of the PIA/KAPE merger.
@Vindicator @Crensch @EricKaliberhall @MadWorld @PuttItOut
BrennKommando ago
I assume Putt is still the only one with access so it would be him. I also don't think you are getting what I'm saying perhaps? So PIA despite Jewish relations had accepted Voat as a platform to support because they believed in free speech. When Kape got involved that was no longer acceptable because of the Jews/Nazi's contradiction. However they're not going to throw away technology that could easily be repurposed into something useful. There are a lot of aspects about Voat that is arguably superior to Reddit from a tech standpoint.
Putt being offered the choice of letting Voat die as funding ran out or continue working with it under a new name for a new audience would naturally accept the latter.
It's a theory. There are other of varying degrees of plausibility. I'm still not trying to convince you of anything I could be wrong about. But I am telling you because it could be worth taking some precautions even if you never end up using them. I'm mostly a shitposter I will have no issue finding a new home. The larger majority of Voat will not have it as easy if it comes to that.
argosciv ago
Very broad assumption given that people are able to contribute code and given Putt's last comment.
https://investors.kape.com/about-us | https://files.catbox.moe/0afzp7.png
MadWorld ago
Enjoy the downvotes :-)
BrennKommando ago
If we absolutely have to go there. Since 7/3/2015 I have via @Shumway, @C_Corax and @BrennKommando.
I downvoat posts not people!
Anyway, I have stumbled upon your posts a couple of times and you seemed fairly levelheaded. What's your take on all of this? If you had time to read up on it since it is a bit all over the place.
argosciv ago
That may be the case for you, but others more invested in the "VOAT COMPROMISED!" narrative and connected attacks against the v/pizzagate, v/QRV and v/GreatAwakening (including attacks/"comped" narratives against PG and GA mods) are downvote brigading like mad and have been for at least 72 hours straight.
People being brigaded include but are not limited to: myself, @Crensch, @Vindicator and @MadWorld.
BrennKommando ago
Chill Mr. 17k downvoat's given. I've given exactly 4 voats in this thread. 3 to @Vindicator for courtesy of polite conversation and 1 for @MadWorld in case we might have one. Zero downvoates, not even to you.
I'm sure you can say the same right?
Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi
argosciv ago
Significant majority in v/QRV, relax.
Nope, not even gonna pretend otherwise, but I don't encourage nor condone brigading.
BrennKommando ago
I just pinged 2 people for the first time in this thread. You?
Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi
argosciv ago
Interested parties. Each of them knows better than to engage in brigading and knows where I stand on the matter.
Stark contrast to those who have a concerted agenda to push the notion that Voat is compromised.
argosciv ago
T'was expected that they would brigade to some extent, they surprised me a tad with just how obvious they made it though xD
argosciv ago
Yeah and if you look at when that about link was changed in the footer, it's 2 days after the last known archive of said unused about page.
The whole narrative stinks and you should be questioning the source of the narrative and who changed an unused page, when and why.
@Vindicator @Crensch @EricKaliberhall @MadWorld @PuttItOut
BrennKommando ago
Believe whatever you want. I've sourced some information that may be of value to you. Whatever if anything you chose to do with it is entirely up to you.
argosciv ago
Right back at ya. You say you're not part of the fear mongering? Well, you have enough to call your suspicions into question and most especially the reason for changing an unused page.
BrennKommando ago
I did propose it separately from what I knew as a fact. You have to make up your own mind if I'm onto something or not from there.
argosciv ago
Enough of your hand waving. Unless you have an answer to the very valid questions posed, there's nothing for us to discuss.
SirNiggssalot ago
Spoken like a true subversive