I have no idea who this guy is, or if this post will be relevant to the conversation here. But I'm doing a qanon dive, and happened to find this URL in my search results.
I couldn't locate a corresponding page on their site, other than a brief mention of this "cryptic" letter, apparently from Kappy to Seth Green and his wife Claire. It has a reference to people waking up, and Mossad niggers, which is right up my alley.
But more to the point,
I know that both you and Seth have been through pain and turmoil at a young age. I too know very well how formative those experiences can be.
Sounds like he's calling them both out for being pedos now. The document is from August 2018 best I can tell, but you've probably all seen it. Apologies for not being in the loop here.
Yes, I will. I don't have a Twitter account, and usually don't have the time to watch videos, but I recently watched a couple when trying to make sense of the campaign against the Voodoo Doughnuts whistleblower.
I agree we should ignore these guys and just carry on with our research. Sad that so many Pizzagaters get confused and frustrated after following these fights for a while though.
Here is the full thread containing her research. Most of which I find to be a stretch at best. The video @(8:39) she uses as proof that he is OTO is pretty weak. A baby reflected in his sunglasses in the Brock pic? That's just retarded. A halloween picture? The rest of it is just her playing word games and a post of a tarot card he made on instagram. She is into crystals, clairvoyance and natural healing using tinctures. All of which mean that the same argument she leveraged against Kappy could then reasonably be applied to her according to that logic. OMG she's a witch! That's just dumb.
I think a lot of people with good intentions make connections via assumptions that don't really hold up under scrutiny. Other people then spread these conclusions as fact and the whole thing devolves into parties from one personality camp attacking people in another camp and accusing them of being shills. I think a huge part of the problem in discovering the truth to all this shit is that people seem to choose one person to be a standard bearer for truth and then support them no matter what evidence is presented.
Is it possible that Kappy is or was in OTO? Absolutely. Are there red flags present? Yes, as evidenced by @letsdothis3. Does any of this definitively prove that Kappy is anything other than what he says? I don't believe it does. Being related to people who have connections to other people who are shady as fuck is not definitive proof that the person in question is implicitly involved in said shady activities. I am not going completely discount someone because there are red flags around them. There are red flags around literally everyone when it comes to this subject. That is why it is important to pay attention to who (of these public figures) is attacking who, when and about what.
It's also ok to disagree about these people. Noone has the complete picture and we are all seeing this from our own perspective which means we all have blind spots.
Ya the reflection in the sunglasses is pretty lame. I didn’t look through any of her other stuff too thoroughly either . I just did a quick search using “Isaak Kappy is OTO” and it took me to that tweet. I saw there was a lot more and figured you all would get on it and you did.. pretty confusing though.
I think a huge part of the problem in discovering the truth to all this shit is that people seem to choose one person to be a standard bearer for truth and then support them no matter what evidence is presented.
This is so very, very true.
We also need to realize that if/when these occult groups start to be exposed and dismantled, there are going to be people who come forward to give information -- people who were not free to do so in the past. We are idiots if we lynch them when they speak up, just because they were involved. By definition, a whistleblower was part of something bad at one point. We need to ask tough questions, but we also need to weigh testimony wisely and examine whether a person's contributions are overall good or destructive.
I had no idea that he is into magic. That's a bit troubling, imo.
And there is a difference to being into quartz, clairvoyance, and natural healing. Magic has to do with bending things according to your own will. While the former don't. (And what exactly would be 'natural healing'?).
I had no idea that he is into magic. That's a bit troubling, imo.
It's certainly worth noting. Although I interpreted it as good energy vs evil energy as opposed it being about casting spells or any of that stuff. He did post the magician tarot card so there is that.
And there is a difference to being into quartz, clairvoyance, and natural healing. Magic has to do with bending things according to your own will. While the former don't. (And what exactly would be 'natural healing'?).
I found a better example of the point I was trying to convey. She retweeted this 10 days ago which is almost exactly the same thing he was talking about in the video that she criticized him for. She used that to imply he was involved in OTO yet she re-tweeted the same shit. See what I mean? The only real difference between the two being that Kappy used the term magic.
I still have some reservations about and/or points of disagreement with Kappy, but they're not necessarily deal breakers all things considered. With that said, I'm starting to come around a bit with regard to hearing him out on this whole perplexing infighting situation.
thanks ..... gabe and an open secret blocked me i dont know why we tweet about the same stuff ...... so they hate q and attacked lisa crowley on twitter calling her a shill .... interesting
I think he is genuine. A little foolish and naive at times but I think he is someone who is trying to do the right thing. He gave Fiona two weeks to address her accusations and she never bothered to respond. I also think she was lying about a lot of things. Maybe not all of the things but a lot of them and has been for a long time.
I think he is genuine. A little foolish and naive at times but I think he is someone who is trying to do the right thing.~
~AOS is no bueno either.
Something isn't quite adding up here...
This whole situation where everyone is pointing fingers at each other, is getting out of control. I'm starting to think things are just reaching a point where paranoia is at peak levels and that someone is maybe deliberately trying to divide... who said divider is, I'm not certain. Lotta names in the mix...
constructing a timeline of the attacks would prove useful
^ This.
If anyone has the time, that would be excellent. I'd do it myself but I'm honestly too bogged down in something else I'm working on. Seriously, I'm drowining in research, so to speak.
Lots of people are very fearful now...it affects their judgment ..and , I think, may make them look weird. Terror can affect speech..i.e. Nancy Pelosi/ Adam Schift
Yeah, kinda... it's hard to tell how much of it is genuinely fear-based, though. Let's say that the 3 main names here for now are Kappy, Hoffman and Barnett - each of them has some merit with regard to with their 'big picture' work, but with each of them pointing fingers at each other, it's not easy determining who is doing so out of fear and who, if any, has an agenda.
At this stage, I have reservations about each of them - nevermind the other names involved. That said, Honeybee_ is definitely one I trust, and it's one area where Barnett is either acting maliciously or has been fed a bogus narrative from malicious actors.
i think he's okay he did say that he believes david shurter and marianne barnard and fiona were abused he just thinks fiona lied about some of her accusations you have to remember that survivors of abuse are damaged people and fiona might believe what she has come to as a conclusion to be true and he disagrees with those conclusions because of his own personal experience and now they're at an impasse
There were a couple of posts about Fiona a few days ago and there were a lot of downvoats. So really, there are people that want her taken down. TPTB and the pedo elites surely must be behind it. Twitter, FB and others are backing the pedos and stick up for those that support it too.
There are both sides to this. You have a right to your opinion for it is hard to decide who is telling the truth today. I do know someone that has spoken to her and believes here. I looked into her over a year ago and have decided to support her. I am hoping she is telling the truth. We must believe the Survivors until we find they have lied to us.
I don't believe everything on the internet. What I do believe is Victims. I believe she explained herself very well in this instance. I also know someone that has written back and forth with her and she believes her. She is a Victim as well. I trust her judgement.
I remember seeing her being discussed quite a bit. Interesting that Kappy chose to call her out. Also curious about why he thinks that about CDAN/Enty.
Might have something to do with her attack dogs going after him. Note the date of that tweet. This was well before he said anything negative about Fiona. Weird. Also if she thinks Fiona's husband is OTO why is she still supporting Fiona while at the same time attacking Kappy? If anyone has a good explanation for that I would really love to hear it.
What would you think if you were him? Also it is worth noting that CDAN and Hoffman collaborate to push the same messaging. You can go back and look through his twitter timeline on the days of those Blinds to see what I mean.
oddlike777 ago
I have no idea who this guy is, or if this post will be relevant to the conversation here. But I'm doing a qanon dive, and happened to find this URL in my search results.
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/seth%2520green%2520letters03.pdf
I couldn't locate a corresponding page on their site, other than a brief mention of this "cryptic" letter, apparently from Kappy to Seth Green and his wife Claire. It has a reference to people waking up, and Mossad niggers, which is right up my alley.
But more to the point,
Sounds like he's calling them both out for being pedos now. The document is from August 2018 best I can tell, but you've probably all seen it. Apologies for not being in the loop here.
kazza64 ago
its been 402'd
oddlike777 ago
Damn, I mirrored it https://upload.cat/9d85482bf5548013
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
twit - https://archive.is/MVzOR - https://archive.is/tpJF2 - https://archive.is/qhKDX
image - https://archive.is/VgRUp
kazza64 ago
thanks
shewhomustbeobeyed ago
You're welcome.
Oh_Well_ian ago
It took me about 5 minutes of listening to this clown to know he was DISINFO
letsdothis3 ago
Yup.
think- ago
Well, he is right about Gabe Hoffman, but this doesn't make him more legit.
I'm also a bit tired of this whole Twitter and YouTube war.
letsdothis3 ago
Just ignore. Simple psyop units tactics.
think- ago
Yes, I will. I don't have a Twitter account, and usually don't have the time to watch videos, but I recently watched a couple when trying to make sense of the campaign against the Voodoo Doughnuts whistleblower.
I agree we should ignore these guys and just carry on with our research. Sad that so many Pizzagaters get confused and frustrated after following these fights for a while though.
@new4now
new4now ago
did the Voodoo Donuts come up with the pic of Billy Graham"s Son?
didnt she say Billy was one of her abusers?
it's been about a yr since he died
when did it come out?
you can always keep your eye out on it
something will come out sooner or later, always does
think- ago
Agree.
dreamwarrior23 ago
I think he's controlled op, just like CDAN, but they still provide the same amount of truth as guys like Janda, Stone, Corsi, etc.
kazza64 ago
someone just told me he's OTO
think- ago
Kappy is OTO?! Who told you - would love to look into this. Would you maybe have a link? Thanks!
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @SandHog @MolochHunter @letsdothis3
letsdothis3 ago
Why are people still talking about Kappy? Just search for Kappy and OTO in Twitter: https://twitter.com/search?q=kappy%20oto&src=typd
Isaac Kappy 'live trolling' David Brock or is David Brock trolling us? A look into the Kappy family
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2802001/14574243
think- ago
Yes, the photo with Brock was really telling, wasn't it? I have no idea why people all of a sudden think he might be trustworthy after all.
One shill attacking another one doesn't make him more credible.
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @SandHog @srayzie @MolochHunter
truthdemon ago
Rename kappy via brock...or kappy koppy brock.. ..to remind audience of his assiciation with brock.. Thats one degree separatiin to JA
Imnotshocked ago
https://twitter.com/sacred_smoke/status/1062366907842605056?s=20
SandHog ago
Here is the full thread containing her research. Most of which I find to be a stretch at best. The video @(8:39) she uses as proof that he is OTO is pretty weak. A baby reflected in his sunglasses in the Brock pic? That's just retarded. A halloween picture? The rest of it is just her playing word games and a post of a tarot card he made on instagram. She is into crystals, clairvoyance and natural healing using tinctures. All of which mean that the same argument she leveraged against Kappy could then reasonably be applied to her according to that logic. OMG she's a witch! That's just dumb.
I think a lot of people with good intentions make connections via assumptions that don't really hold up under scrutiny. Other people then spread these conclusions as fact and the whole thing devolves into parties from one personality camp attacking people in another camp and accusing them of being shills. I think a huge part of the problem in discovering the truth to all this shit is that people seem to choose one person to be a standard bearer for truth and then support them no matter what evidence is presented.
Is it possible that Kappy is or was in OTO? Absolutely. Are there red flags present? Yes, as evidenced by @letsdothis3. Does any of this definitively prove that Kappy is anything other than what he says? I don't believe it does. Being related to people who have connections to other people who are shady as fuck is not definitive proof that the person in question is implicitly involved in said shady activities. I am not going completely discount someone because there are red flags around them. There are red flags around literally everyone when it comes to this subject. That is why it is important to pay attention to who (of these public figures) is attacking who, when and about what.
It's also ok to disagree about these people. Noone has the complete picture and we are all seeing this from our own perspective which means we all have blind spots.
@think-
Imnotshocked ago
Ya the reflection in the sunglasses is pretty lame. I didn’t look through any of her other stuff too thoroughly either . I just did a quick search using “Isaak Kappy is OTO” and it took me to that tweet. I saw there was a lot more and figured you all would get on it and you did.. pretty confusing though.
Vindicator ago
This is so very, very true.
We also need to realize that if/when these occult groups start to be exposed and dismantled, there are going to be people who come forward to give information -- people who were not free to do so in the past. We are idiots if we lynch them when they speak up, just because they were involved. By definition, a whistleblower was part of something bad at one point. We need to ask tough questions, but we also need to weigh testimony wisely and examine whether a person's contributions are overall good or destructive.
truthdemon ago
Yeah but a millstone would still be waiting for them connected to a sugar mill
think- ago
I had no idea that he is into magic. That's a bit troubling, imo.
And there is a difference to being into quartz, clairvoyance, and natural healing. Magic has to do with bending things according to your own will. While the former don't. (And what exactly would be 'natural healing'?).
SandHog ago
It's certainly worth noting. Although I interpreted it as good energy vs evil energy as opposed it being about casting spells or any of that stuff. He did post the magician tarot card so there is that.
I found a better example of the point I was trying to convey. She retweeted this 10 days ago which is almost exactly the same thing he was talking about in the video that she criticized him for. She used that to imply he was involved in OTO yet she re-tweeted the same shit. See what I mean? The only real difference between the two being that Kappy used the term magic.
Vindicator ago
Can you get a screenshot showing she retweeted it? We need to be documenting all this.
SandHog ago
The retweet in question.
Vindicator ago
I don't see where Fiona retweeted it, though.
SandHog ago
I dunno if Fiona did since she deleted her account. I was talking about the sacred_smoke person who @Imnotshocked linked in his initial post above.
Vindicator ago
Ah. I thought you were saying Fiona retweeted the sacred_smoke tweet. Guess I'm confused, LOL.
SandHog ago
Haha, I was just following up on an earlier post in the thread.
think- ago
O_o
That's certainly some esoteric bs. I see what you mean. Will try to find more info about Kappy dabbling with the occult.
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @letsdothis3 @shewhomustbeobeyed
SandHog ago
It just looks like more new-age hippie garbage to me. I could be wrong but there doesn't seem to be anything overtly malevolent about it.
think- ago
@SandHog: please see parent.
think- ago
Thank you! Will look into it.
Imnotshocked ago
Your welcome!
argosciv ago
Very interesting...
I still have some reservations about and/or points of disagreement with Kappy, but they're not necessarily deal breakers all things considered. With that said, I'm starting to come around a bit with regard to hearing him out on this whole perplexing infighting situation.
Btw, check out AOS(Hoffman)'s recent tweets for a bit of a 'coincidence'...
kazza64 ago
it does get very messy when accusations are flying and people are getting dragged into confrontations and ugly arguments
kazza64 ago
thanks ..... gabe and an open secret blocked me i dont know why we tweet about the same stuff ...... so they hate q and attacked lisa crowley on twitter calling her a shill .... interesting
SandHog ago
Did he block you in response to something you tweeted him or was it just out of the blue?
kazza64 ago
it was very unexpected
SandHog ago
I think he uses a bot to autoblock people who follow other people he doesn't like or those that question him.
SandHog ago
I think he is genuine. A little foolish and naive at times but I think he is someone who is trying to do the right thing. He gave Fiona two weeks to address her accusations and she never bothered to respond. I also think she was lying about a lot of things. Maybe not all of the things but a lot of them and has been for a long time.
AOS is no bueno either.
argosciv ago
Something isn't quite adding up here...
This whole situation where everyone is pointing fingers at each other, is getting out of control. I'm starting to think things are just reaching a point where paranoia is at peak levels and that someone is maybe deliberately trying to divide... who said divider is, I'm not certain. Lotta names in the mix...
cc: @Vindicator @srayzie @Shizy @MolochHunter @kazza64
SandHog ago
Yep. I think that constructing a timeline of the attacks would prove useful.
argosciv ago
^ This.
If anyone has the time, that would be excellent. I'd do it myself but I'm honestly too bogged down in something else I'm working on. Seriously, I'm drowining in research, so to speak.
new4now ago
all the names make a perfect storm
argosciv ago
Like you wouldn't believe... or maybe you would lol, as someone who reads my work.
new4now ago
I enjoy your work
you really dig and you make me think
a lot of people dont like to think ;)
Lansing-Michigan ago
Lots of people are very fearful now...it affects their judgment ..and , I think, may make them look weird. Terror can affect speech..i.e. Nancy Pelosi/ Adam Schift
argosciv ago
Yeah, kinda... it's hard to tell how much of it is genuinely fear-based, though. Let's say that the 3 main names here for now are Kappy, Hoffman and Barnett - each of them has some merit with regard to with their 'big picture' work, but with each of them pointing fingers at each other, it's not easy determining who is doing so out of fear and who, if any, has an agenda.
At this stage, I have reservations about each of them - nevermind the other names involved. That said, Honeybee_ is definitely one I trust, and it's one area where Barnett is either acting maliciously or has been fed a bogus narrative from malicious actors.
kazza64 ago
i think he's okay he did say that he believes david shurter and marianne barnard and fiona were abused he just thinks fiona lied about some of her accusations you have to remember that survivors of abuse are damaged people and fiona might believe what she has come to as a conclusion to be true and he disagrees with those conclusions because of his own personal experience and now they're at an impasse
carmencita ago
He must be getting well paid.
3141592653 ago
I don't know what to make of all this craziness. Who do you think he's getting paid by?
carmencita ago
He looks and acts like some loony freak.
Lansing-Michigan ago
"He looks and acts like some loony freak." Or on some powerful drugs.
carmencita ago
That too or both.
carmencita ago
There were a couple of posts about Fiona a few days ago and there were a lot of downvoats. So really, there are people that want her taken down. TPTB and the pedo elites surely must be behind it. Twitter, FB and others are backing the pedos and stick up for those that support it too.
7alon ago
She's a shill too. Just as much proof of that, if not more, than Kappy. All shills, just playing their part.
carmencita ago
There are both sides to this. You have a right to your opinion for it is hard to decide who is telling the truth today. I do know someone that has spoken to her and believes here. I looked into her over a year ago and have decided to support her. I am hoping she is telling the truth. We must believe the Survivors until we find they have lied to us.
7alon ago
They did lie. Don't be an idiot. The proofs are on the internet for you to see.
carmencita ago
I don't believe everything on the internet. What I do believe is Victims. I believe she explained herself very well in this instance. I also know someone that has written back and forth with her and she believes her. She is a Victim as well. I trust her judgement.
mathemagician33 ago
I remember seeing her being discussed quite a bit. Interesting that Kappy chose to call her out. Also curious about why he thinks that about CDAN/Enty.
SandHog ago
Might have something to do with her attack dogs going after him. Note the date of that tweet. This was well before he said anything negative about Fiona. Weird. Also if she thinks Fiona's husband is OTO why is she still supporting Fiona while at the same time attacking Kappy? If anyone has a good explanation for that I would really love to hear it.
What would you think if you were him? Also it is worth noting that CDAN and Hoffman collaborate to push the same messaging. You can go back and look through his twitter timeline on the days of those Blinds to see what I mean.
carmencita ago
Well I am sure so many that have been named in Blinds well, maybe he is being used as their hit man.
derram ago
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=PQ7wwpBzVYo :
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