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think- ago

Just found this today -

Call for retraction of 400 scientific papers amid fears organs came from Chinese prisoners

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/feb/06/call-for-retraction-of-400-scientific-papers-amid-fears-organs-came-from-chinese-prisoners

kestrel9 ago

Unbelievable, great find, thank you!

While the government says 10,000 transplants occur each year, hospital data shows between 60,000 to 100,000 organs are transplanted each year. The report provides evidence that this gap is being made up by executed prisoners of conscience.

"PER YEAR" so between 50,000 - 90,000 PER YEAR based on this article. That's just what's reported.

While China vowed to stop using organs from executed prisoners in 2015, no new law or regulation has been passed banning the practice. Humanitarian groups including Amnesty International have voiced concerns that the practice is continuing.

Notice they imply the organs are harvested after the prisoner is dead?

In December, the Independent Tribunal into Forced Organ Harvesting from Prisoners of Conscience in China issued its interim report, finding: “The tribunal’s members are all certain – unanimously, and sure beyond reasonable doubt – that in China forced organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience has been practised for a substantial period of time involving a very substantial number of victims.”

The tribunal’s full report is due in 2019.

BOOM

think- ago

What you'll have to take into account is that there is also a lot of disinfo spread by Falun Gong (sp.?), a sect that is prosecuted in China. Imo they are behind outlets like 'TheEpochTimes', and sometimes I don't know whether they make things up about Chinese organ trafficking, or whether the info is legit.

So difficult so discern what is legit, and what might be sensationalized, although I think there is really dark stuff going on in China. Never forget they are a dictatorship, not a democracy.

On a side note, Jeff Bezos of Amazon is now running prisons in China where Muslims are sent for 're-education'.

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Kahlypso79 ago

Hi @think- What do you know about Falun Gong (hadnt heard of them yet) Im asking because Qi Gong is essentially all over the Phoenix program and mind control (from original VC side, not the Nazi experiment side). Also related to telepathy and psy. Well.. lots of woowoo stuff that doesnt need discussing here. Im compiling on organ trafficking recently (essentially rearranging links to show increase of organ trafficking (some countries have over 3000 percent increases in organ failure traitements.. I might have to start looking into why... (studies saying obesity hypertension....) Anyway..... Qi Gong..very very important..What is Falun Gong? They use Jainism symobology.

think- ago

Qi Gong is essentially all over the Phoenix program and mind control

What? I never heard about that - do you have links maybe? If so, that would be huge! I'm interested in any details about it that you may have! :-)

The Wikipedia articles about Falun Gong are all written by its members it seems (lol), I will take some time today to find more unbiased info, and post it here.

As I suspected, 'The Epoch Times' was founded by members of the Falun Gong movement in the US.

So, will get back to you later! :-)

Kahlypso79 ago

@think- Oops.. mea culpa.. Very very sorry.. I'm tired and havent been sleeping properly.. Not Phoenix assasination program for the VC.. Phoenix program was the Russian counter program to Project Stargate..I got my russian and english nomenclatures for their games and toys mixed up...and wasnt thinking about the right project..what a noob.. Qi Dong is all over Stargate (russian counterpart.. Phoenix..) and Psychotronic Weaponry https://archive.org/details/CIA-RDP96-00792R000200310003-9 as the human biofield is a mix of infrared, microwave (FUCK YOU 5G!!) and electrostatic potentiels.. or fields if you prefer. https://archive.org/details/stargatefiles China and psychics.. http://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Paul%20Dong%20-%20China%27s%20Super%20Psychics.pdf

Kahlypso79 ago

(Note to self) need to see if there is any link between Falun Gong persecution and the wave of holistic doctors being murdered lately...

Kahlypso79 ago

Hi.. yeh just started on Falun Gong.. the world is so big.. found these.. although speed reading can help.. its taking time :)

https://endtransplantabuse.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/BloodyHarvest.WEB_.pdf Although there are indeed no physical proofs (ie a selfie photo of a doctor as he's taking the heart from one identified victim for exemple....those sneaky bastreds.. :)) However there is enough circumstantial evidence and 'blocking techniques' put in place to safely assume that something happened.. and waiting lists for organs that count in weeks and days (2 weeks for a liver..) rather than months (compared to Canada where you've got 32-35 months..) do imply.. a steady supply...Although it also appears that they(chin. gov.) were using prisoners as chop suey... http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/STUD/2016/542201/IPOL_STU(2016)542201_EN.pdf (more detailed report on trafficking as a whole)

kestrel9 ago

Jeff Bezos of Amazon is now running prisons in China where Muslims are sent for 're-education'

You've got to be kidding. What the heck?!

think- ago

Nope. Read it a couple of days ago. Either in the Guardian or the DailyMail. Amazon just got a contract for that.

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