Katy Groves is an individual who suffers a severe case of poly-fragmented dissociative identity disorder as a result of having undergone trauma-based mind control in the CIA's mind control programs. Her parents were born into the early Mk-Ultra programs in the 1950's, and attempted to raise her to be a handler like them in underground child-snuff rings in Texas. Fortunately, she was able to escape and share her story on Youtube.
Recently, she released a video revealing the names of her parents.
Here is her video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhNqCf5RvP0
Here's the links she shared in the video's description:
Her father: Kevin Groves
https://drkevingroves.com/about/
Her mother: Susan Groves
http://www.pianotexas.org/2011/tea_participants.asp#groves
http://www.pianotexas.org/2016/teachersperformers.asp#Susan_Groves
This is significant because we can now for example look into who may be connected with these individuals and possibly uncover another hidden branch of the global pedophile ring, among many other things.
If this post has led you to connect further dots, share your findings with us here on this post.
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think- ago
There is no proof that the alleged 'Monarch' program ever existed, unlike other MK Ultra programs like MK Artichoke.
ASolo ago
Well, I think- all you did here was throw in some conjecture to make the entire thing confusing, I'm pretty sure it's quite accepted among the entire community that the "monarch" subtitle was pertinent not only in recognizing this type of governmental programming it name is instrumental IN THE PROCESS -as in a TRANSFORMATION. The esoteric, ethereal and metaphysical understanding of the entire project relies on this juxtaposition I'm not sure why you think you can take that aspect away from the entire breadth of research here in VOAT on this one particular thread. You are throwing your weight around where it doesn't belong and using power and force to make it effective. This is so wrong I'm not sure who you think you are. I'm not even sure you can claim that it was only tossed around by Kathy O'Brian and her "spook" husband which is a subject ALSO STILL UNDER DEBATE... why is it you think you are the ultimate authority on this matter and to prove it would take an immense amount of work. No, I'm not going to accept your assertion and you cannot make it with overwhelming authority to have this kids entire thread flaired. Absolutely not.
@think @Vindicator
I'm expecting you guys to fix this. Please stop throwing your power around where it doesn't belong.
think- ago
Err.....@ASolo? First, I'm not a mod anymore, remember? I only voiced my opinion, and supported @Vindicator for flairing this thread. I still stand my ground.
No. That's what OP did (innocently, though, without realizing it). I tried to get to the bottom of the 'Monarch' stuff.
Don't know why you are so pissed off, @ASolo.
I don't have any more power than you have. And @Vindicator didn't throw 'his power around'. He rightly flaired the thread because it was nowhere mentioned in the video that the lady was in the alleged 'Monarch' program.
I didn't say that. But to my knowledge, she was the first alleged victim of this program coming forward, and she was supported by an ('ex'-)spook in doing so. Food for thought, don't you think?
One reason why I'm sceptical is that all the other mind control programs ran only for a quite short period - only a couple of years. Why would they have a single program with that specific name running over decades? Just askin'
Again: We need to be accurate. I don't want to take the spiritual aspect away from this discussion. But you ignored that I said the CIA might spread the story about a 'Monarch' program in order to deflect from a multitude of mind control programs they might have been running, with other names. Everybody might stare at 'Monarch', while behind the scenes - possibly - all kinds of programs have been running.
I accept that you beg to differ with me in this regard, I heard you, but please don't be aggressive. Ok?
@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @Crensch @Shizy @srayzie
ASolo ago
I would have to say that the comment was hardly "aggressive", simply firm. I just don't believe you have the authority, right or privilege to make such a conundrum of an already existing premise. You have every absolute right to say it of course, but I also have the absolute right to refute it. And that, I guess, is where it will stand.
I'm not quite sure what you don't understand about the basic concepts in similarity between the monarch butterfly and the program itself, they are both essential in understanding MkULTRA, this is a ridiculous debate.
think- ago
You started it, not me.