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Vindicator ago

@letsdothis2, you've got what is probably a completely inaccurate per Rule 2 statement here:

a masonic lodge or the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers that both Dyncorp and Aerojet belong to

The IAM is a huge international labor union for aerospace machinists, not a Masonic Lodge. Unless there is some actual evidence that the union is a Masonic organization, this claim makes this whole thread look like disinfo. (You may not be aware, but we have a history of numerous sketchy accounts pushing bogus claims about Masonic affiliation to push important topics into the "conspiracy theory" dismissal zone and probably protect Masons actually involved in criminal activity by muddying the waters).

I'm also having a difficult time understanding how this thread shows any direct relevance between the Woolsey fire and pizzagate per Rule 1. It happened at a property that was once owned by a company that once employed the business partner of someone who happens to own a business next door to a business that Ashton Kushner once was seen entering? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't meet our definition of PG relevance. It's pretty much 100% speculative. While those individual tidbits are definitely interesting and worth researching as leads, this belongs in v/pizzagatewhatever until actual relationships can be documented.

I will give this the 24 Hour Grace flair because that is our policy, but this really doesn't belong here as written at this point.

NOMOCHOMO ago

@letsdothis2

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/curiosities/index.html

Grand Lodge of British Columbia and Yukon:

The International Association of Machinists logo contained a square and callipers. When they re-formed with the aerospace workers they modified the original logo.

http://www.yorkrite.com/ia/lodge2/06.html

Iowa Research Lodge No.2:

Since the institution of Freemasonry was originally adapted from the craft of the stone workers, one of the guilds or building trades, it should not be surprising that many similarities can be traced between the various labor organizations and the Masonic Order.

http://www.stichtingargus.nl/vrijmetselarij/iamaw_r.html

International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers Ritual 1964

"I promise to treat as sacred the business of this Association and all its transactions of which I may be aware, and not reveal them to any other than members."

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=7912402162

letsdothis2 ago

Thank you for the contributions. I'll have a look at the links.

It's clearly masonic to me, and the whole aerospace industry is at the very least corrupt in the conventional sense, but my own research indicates to me that the corruption goes deeper and has occultic elements. I have written many posts on the origins of the Jet Propulsion Lab, Crowley, Parsons et al., and even their possible involvement in FF. Some people may not be paying attention ;-)

NOMOCHOMO ago

Also FF? False Flags?

letsdothis2 ago

Here's an example: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2150980

It's about the Parsons Green bombing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsons_Green_train_bombing

Four other attacks occurred in England in the months preceding the bombing: the Westminster attack, the Manchester Arena bombing, the London Bridge attack and the Finsbury Park attack.[12] According to the BBC home affairs correspondent Dominic Casciani, along with the Parsons Green train bombing and police having foiled at least seven 'significant plots', this makes it "the most sustained period of terror activity in England since the IRA bombing campaign of the 1970s."

ALL of those listed attacks are considered suspect by 'conspiracy theorists'.