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Vindicator ago

@letsdothis2, you've got what is probably a completely inaccurate per Rule 2 statement here:

a masonic lodge or the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers that both Dyncorp and Aerojet belong to

The IAM is a huge international labor union for aerospace machinists, not a Masonic Lodge. Unless there is some actual evidence that the union is a Masonic organization, this claim makes this whole thread look like disinfo. (You may not be aware, but we have a history of numerous sketchy accounts pushing bogus claims about Masonic affiliation to push important topics into the "conspiracy theory" dismissal zone and probably protect Masons actually involved in criminal activity by muddying the waters).

I'm also having a difficult time understanding how this thread shows any direct relevance between the Woolsey fire and pizzagate per Rule 1. It happened at a property that was once owned by a company that once employed the business partner of someone who happens to own a business next door to a business that Ashton Kushner once was seen entering? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't meet our definition of PG relevance. It's pretty much 100% speculative. While those individual tidbits are definitely interesting and worth researching as leads, this belongs in v/pizzagatewhatever until actual relationships can be documented.

I will give this the 24 Hour Grace flair because that is our policy, but this really doesn't belong here as written at this point.

letsdothis2 ago

And read this https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2854628/15050393

This is the reason I posted here, for that kind of feedback, People need to look at pizzagate from a SYSTEMS point of view, not only individual cases of pedophilia. Compartmentalisation is the reason they've been getting away with it for so long.

Vindicator ago

People need to look at pizzagate from a SYSTEMS point of view, not only individual cases of pedophilia. Compartmentalisation is the reason they've been getting away with it for so long.

I absolutely agree with you, LDT...but for this sub, it has to be written up and supported with links in a very concrete way, with the connections spelled out. Not scattershot as a conglomeration of leads and suspicious facts. That is exactly why we have more than one subverse -- the preliminary research submissions relying on hunches and speculation go in v/pizzagtewhatever, and the ones that make a sound case go in v/pizzagate. Ultimately, some material will move from pgwhatever to pg as it develops.

Systems submissions are fine for v/pizzagate, so long as the system and how it relates to the pedo elite abusing kids can be clearly described and claims sourced with supporting links.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Upvoat!

Systems are the Rat Lines of Procurement, Use, and Disposal.

By limiting "the elite" that we investigate to those initially discovered in the wikileaks, we are only looking at a SLICE of the whole PIZZA

There are multiple competing networks, and I suspect they don't all lead to the DNC

letsdothis2 ago

they don't all lead to the DNC

Sssshh.. careful what you say round here. Lol. I tend to be careful with those drops of information. Baby steps, baby steps...

NOMOCHOMO ago

Lol. I hear ya, but I'm not so tactful. Baby steps take too long

I prefer loud micdrops

letsdothis2 ago

Lol. I like your style.

NOMOCHOMO ago

Thanks man. Ditto. You have a lot more self-control and patience.