I'm not a fan or follower of hers, but I was just reading about how Lana Del Rey cancelled her concert in Israel and was surprised to see that Israel even had a new age style music festival focused on the celebration of meteors. This alone is an odd focus, but wait, there's more!
In the 'Practical Q&A' section of their website, I thought the question about children attending was phrased a bit strangely.
"Can We Come With Our Sweet Little Children?" https://meteorfestival.com/practical/, archived: http://archive.is/lglrM
Huh?
Does the way this question is phrased creep anyone else out besides me?
Typically, you'd see such questions phrased as "Are children welcome at the festival?" or "Will the festival have activities for children?" But, can we come with our sweet little children is just plain weird.
The answer to the question?
Yes, kids under 8 are welcome and free of charge.
Don't forget the pedo saying "sex before 8 or it's too late." http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/646809/posts
What is the meteor festival?
It's a 3 day long celebration that's a visionary and cutting edge musical journey that surpasses borders and distorts time and space themselves.
Its location – Open ranges of the Upper Galilee, a promising spot for out-of-body experiences, since the dawn of history.
Its timing – Just before Rosh HaShana and after the summer heat cools down, for three days and two nights we plan to create an alternative reality and dive right in. https://meteorfestival.com/experience/
Here's why Lana Del Rey says she cancelled her concert:
In a Twitter message late Friday, Del Rey says she is delaying "until a time when I can schedule visits for both my Israeli and Palestinian fans." It wasn't clear whether it was a direct response to the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions movement's boycott call. Still, it marked a setback for Israel, which aims to prevent politics from infiltrating the arts. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-after-bds-pressure-lana-del-rey-cancels-israel-show-1.6433887
I find this reasoning very interesting because most PG investigators know how art and politics intertwine and how politics uses are to conceal their occult activities. cough Marina Abramovic
As PG investigators, we all know how Israeli influence plays a part in child sex abuse and trafficking, and organ harvesting. Is this music festival another way for children to be victimized?
Edit to add: @Crensch and @srayzie believe me to be a shill. Provided the information I've brought forth, what does this tell you? If you're needing more information in regards to this information, please PM me. If I don't respond within 24 hours, PM me again because I've noticed that PMs can disappear and it's possible I haven't seen yours for some strange reason yet to be determined.
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Crensch ago
Instead of supporting her accusations against a mod, OP claimed one of us deleted her PMs.
And that's not even the most embarrassing part. Check the link if you want a good laugh!
Enigmatic_Continuum ago
Why are you sliding my thread? Do you not feel that I've presented adepuate information against what Israel is promoting? Oh, maybe you support Israel.
Crensch ago
Nope.
Enigmatic_Continuum ago
The nose knows, I suppose. I don't fault you for wanting/needing to defend your Homeland. Most anyone would.
Enigmatic_Continuum ago
Yes, please. Check the link as srayzie has admitted to buddying up and asking me what my gender is, but won't admit to saying she's a PG mod or answering any questions as to why she's emarrassed of this role.
JackHoff ago
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't it easy to check and see who the mods are in the sidebar? So it's basically public information.
Enigmatic_Continuum ago
Yes, but srayzie's name wasn't listed as a mod in the sidebar at the beginning of August when she revealed to me in a PM that she is a PG mod. This is also the same time she asked me in a PM what my gender was and admits asking me this in a PM. The thing is, the PMs where she asked me my gender and the one where she secretly tells me she's a mod here are both missing from my inbox. Why will she admit to one missing PM, but not the other? They are gaslighting me saying that I deleted them myself. Um, no. There's some serious fuckery going on and I'd be weary of trusting either one of them. And don't dare politely disagree with srayzie or you'll find yourself in the same boat I and others are in. No matter how many great research threads you present, they'd rather let this board go to shit and ultimately confuse everyone by labeling people shills just because their egos have been injured.
JackHoff ago
Can mods really get into inboxes though? I saw someone else commenting about mods checking someone's IP address, but according to several mods that's not possible due to the way voat is set up.
think- ago
No, we can't. And therefore we can't delete PMs. @Enigmatic_Continuum has created a sub as an O, so she should know (I'm not even an O, only a mod, but she will know that even she as an O cannot read other people's inboxes.)
And @srayzie's name has always been on the mod list for the last couple of months. It wasn't deleted at some pöint as she says.
@Enigmatic_Continuum: I have no idea was has happened here, but I'm really tired of hearing baseless accusations against mods, especially from users like you, who always seemed to be sensible and posted good research.
So please, go and check for yourself if you have access to people's inboxes or not. Thanks.
@Vindicator @Crensch
Enigmatic_Continuum ago
I don't know what they're capable of and I certainly wouldn't put anything past them. I definitely wouldn't trust that they're telling the truth about things. Just look how they try to smear genuine researchers. It's a shame really.
JackHoff ago
Well I saw one mod make the suggestion that anyone can start their own sub verse to see what the mods can/can't do, and what they have access to. It may be worth checking out to find out for sure, but seeing that led me to believe what they were saying.
Enigmatic_Continuum ago
Yes, and I did create a sub called v/CageFight where people could call out those they believe are shills instead of muddying up the board, but as you can see, the mods think they should have the freedom to muddy up the boards with their drama. "Do as we say not as we do." When I was the mod of CageFight, I really didn't have the ability to do much of anything, but I think certain mods like Crensch have more abilities than we're led to believe. Circles within circles, and compartmentalization is a tactic used often as a means of control online and in real life.
think- ago
You have been an O, Crensch is an O. You said you were not able to do 'much of anything', so why would Crensch? Does he have supernatural powers? To my knowledge, he hasn't.
So why are you spreading this rumour, @Enigmatic_Continuum?
I just don't get it.
@Vindicator @srayzie @Crensch
Enigmatic_Continuum ago
It happened. Check my comments where I stated that srayzie sent me two PMs that are now missing. She admits to one, but not the other. Why would she do this? If I had a screen shot, I would post it.
I already admitted that I wasn't able to read inboxes, but how do I know what others may be capable of doing? I've been reading threads from way back when v/Pizzagate was created trying to figure this out and many comments made by a particular O are interesting. I'm finding all sorts of things about janitors and volunteers, and how to become such and why the latter aren't able to be used. And this thread is very telling as a rogue mod was deleting important info and changing css, but I'm still digging into what exactly they were deleting. I miss the days when the mods were questioned just as much as the regular members. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1528884, http://archive.is/IOgl1
I think as mods and owners, rather than focusing on calling me a liar and a shill, you should all be trying to find out how inbox messages are disappearing. This should concern everyone in the community.
think- ago
This is technically impossible, E_C. @heygeorge can confirm.
I read these comments.
I didn't read that srayzie admits to deleting PMs. Would you have a source? Thanks.
Even if she or any other user/mod/O wanted to do this, she wouldn't be able to. (But hey, repeating myself here.) And @srayzie certainly doesn't want to delete other people's PMs.
Ok, I suggest to apply logical thinking. Os do have the highest position here on Voat, and they can't go to other people's inboxes and delete stuff.
No matter on which subverse, no matter which O. Ok?
Sorry, which 'particular O' are you referring to? To which of their comments? Please link to them, otherwise I'm afraid I don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Elaborate?
Unless you link to the thread in question, I'm afraid I can't understand what you're talking about, E_C.
Maybe you've missed it, but the mods here are questioned every day. Add insulted, harrassed, threatened, called names, and people are spreading unfounded rumours and accusations. Every day.
We asked a bunch of well-liked and able long-time members / researchers whether they'd fancy to become a mod, but they all declined, because they see how people treat the mod team.
Where have I ever called you 'a liar and a shill', @Enigmatic_Continuum? I haven't. Not in a single case. I have always been polite and friendly. Please refrain from spreading false claims. Thank you.
This is the first time ever, to my knowledge, that someone claims that inbox messages are disappearing.
I'd suggest to go to v/voatdev, and do a post about it.
@Vindicator @Crensch @srayzie
Enigmatic_Continuum ago
I meant that srayzie admitted to sending me the one PM. Not admitting to deleting it, but just her admitting to sending it after I mentioned it's now missing is evidence that she does admit to sending one of the PMs that are now missing.
I understand that mods were chosen by mods who felt they were on the up and up, but who are the volunteers? Why was it stated that volunteers aren't able to be used? The opposite of a volunteer is an employee. Volunteers donate their time while an employee gets paid. Who are the paid employees here?
Yes, you've always been friendly and level-headed with me and others. Crensch and srayzie have no problem calling people liars and shills, then stirring shit up. I told them not to concern themselves with who was a shill and who wasn't, so if Crensch insists on flairing shills, he is a danger to the board. No mod should be deciding who's real and who isn't. Why do we even have the up/downvoat system if the mods can instantly ruin someone's reputation? How are you and the other mods even on board with this type of labeling? I dislike those I believe are shills just as much as the next member, but I downvoat them and let them know I think they're acting less than genuine or spreading disinfo and move on. Does Crensch think the members are stupid and need him to point out who they should be weary of? If he has this level of respect for members, he shouldn't be in his position. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Srayzie and Crensch love the drama and mods that do this are a danger to the board and the research as a whole. Period. The only thing I think needs attention is the way certain members use Voat to drive traffic to their Steemit articles as a means of making money. Many of us here happily research for free and it's a slap in the face to the victims when investigators are making money off of what should be a selfless act of helping to bring their abusers to justice.
I'm not ready to say who's comments and submissions I'm reading. I'm still researching and don't want to risk anything disappearing. Note that I'm not accusing you of deleting info. I'm just saying.
think- ago
@Enimatic_Continuum: Nobody here gets paid, or is employed. We are all volunteers, doing this in our spare time.
When @Vindicator did a sticky last summer, @ben_matlock volunteered, and said he would like to mod, so Vin got back to him, and made him a mod.
@Crensch put a sticky up for a couple of days, to see what the communtiy thinks about introducing flairs, and since the majority didn't like the idea, flairs won't be introduced.
@Crensch, together with @Kevdude, saved the v/pizzagate sub when it migrated from Reddit, and got severely attacked by shills and old Voaters, who didn't like the Pizzagaters. We all wouldn't be able to be here and post here, if he and @Kevdude hadn't put an enormous amount of energy and time into the sub.
I think we all should be grateful for this.
Enigmatic_Continuum ago
I appreciate your explanation of things, but the PG board is deteriorating because a few of the mods are acting like shills themselves by attempting to discredit good info because they have personal vendettas against particular members. I'd be grateful if we had mods that didn't get caught up in the hive mind and were able to be unbiased. I cringe to think about all the great info that Millennial_Falcon had buried because he didn't like certain members and would declare them to be shills and delete their threads. There were so many incredible researchers here until MF went on the warpath. Seems as though we're quickly approaching this level of mod dictatorship yet again.
I'm glad the Flair idea has been scrapped, but there are still mods who were most likely hall monitors back in their school days and now enjoy power tripping here by telling people what they should and shouldn't believe and which members should be accepted and which should be rejected by the community at large. Dangerous stuff. I'm not sure why the sensible mods can't see this. When mods start making lists, the drain plug has been pulled. Maybe there needs to be term limits on mods because burn out and power tripping are serious and trying to intimidate members who don't "toe the line" is not a leadership quality.
Being a good leader requires remembering that you're there for a reason, and the reason certainly isn't to have your way. High-integrity leaders not only welcome questioning and criticism - they insist on it. -- Travis Bradberry
"Il faut cultiver notre jardin." - Voltaire
Crensch ago
This is in my link, for the lazy:
This is how OP supports her claims. "Muh PMs were deleted by someone! H4x0RZ!"
Enigmatic_Continuum ago
They were and srayzie even admits to asking me in a PM what my gender is, but that PM is missing, too. Mighty strange of her to admit to one and not the other after I've mentioned that both PMs are missing from my inbox?
Crensch ago
Nobody cares about that.
Everyone cares about that.
No. It's very simple. You're a liar. Two birds, one stone.
You're unraveling like a cheap cloth.
Enigmatic_Continuum ago
I think it's obvious who's presenting truth and who's full of shit and attampting to obfuscate.
Crensch ago
Yep.