check this out, wired magazine just published a piece on what they are calling moral panic related to rumors about tom hanks and other powerful people being pedophiles (pizzagate)

submitted 6.7 years ago by 3141592653

This is quite an article, i have so much to say about it i almost dont want to even start.

https://www.wired.com/story/crying-pedophile-is-the-oldest-propaganda-trick-in-the-book/amp

There is so much disinfo in this. The problem is that some of it is true. Its an extremely nuanced subject and it makes it easy for writers like this to convince others that its all just panic and there's no pedo conspiracy going on.

We know there is. But there is some truth that these accusations have served many functions in the past and that a small amount do end up being false accusations. A very small percentage of abuse victims turn out to be lying.

I still think we need to be careful. This might sound nuts, but im not convinced about tom hanks yet. I do not disbelieve or disregard sarah at all, i just feel like all we've got on tom is her story, the toddlers and tiaras spoof, and vague posts about missing shoes. This might make people mad, but i also dont believe we have enough yet to crucify spielberg.

In any case, this article is a shame. It mocks our work here and twists reality to make people discredit abuse victims and the reality of large scale organized abuse.

This article also highlights how the left right paradigm is hurting our cause. There are voaters and pedos on both sides. I truly think moving away from that approach could be the best thing we ever did.

But yeah, we need to comment bomb the f outta this article.

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urbanmoving 6.7 years ago

wired is a shit org

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angelafogo 6.7 years ago

https://www.wired.com/2016/07/wikileaks-officially-lost-moral-high-ground/

Look at this article from her. She has already work trying to discredit wikileaks. Absolutely on the pay roll this girl

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PedoStomperReturns 6.7 years ago

The guys who act the most like all-around "good people" are the most suspect, sad to say. Look at Jimmy Savile. People thought he was a legitimately wonderful person who wouldn't hurt anyone. People think the same way about Tom Hanks.

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3141592653 6.7 years ago

Thats why i hate the whole stereotypical nonsense about what a pedo looks like

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WHAMMO63 6.7 years ago

EMMA GREY ELLIS and all you other scum who provide cover for these monsters, don't think that you will escape the wrath. Your deeds are recorded and you WILL be held accountable. That's not a threat, that's a PROMISE.

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WHAMMO63 6.7 years ago

I'll just drop this here:

https://i.imgur.com/R3Q6umW.jpg

LoveHasNoLabels

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flyingcuttlefish 6.7 years ago

Watch articles for this tell-tale phrase -

theory that Clinton-linked DC elites ran a child sex-trafficking ring out of a pizzeria.

... and you will see the footprint of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Identical phrasing - http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/pizzagate-clinton-conspiracy-theory-led-dc-shooting-article-1.2899371

and here - https://www.revolvy.com/page/Pizzagate-conspiracy-theory

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septimasexta 6.7 years ago

Good catch! They have been using this identical phrase for quite awhile.

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Tallest_Skil 6.7 years ago

moral panic

THAT’S IT. THAT’S THE TRIGGER. THEY SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT THE FAGGOTS. NOW THEY’RE FULLY ADMITTING TO NORMALIZING PEDOPHILES, AND THEY’RE ACCELERATING THIS BULLSHIT.

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thisistotallynotme 6.7 years ago

. #MeToo is the greatest weapon ever.

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Aasb 6.7 years ago

The crazy thing about this centralized informations are they are everywhere. As someone living in europe, its the same narrative being pushed with tom hanks and the dangers of Qanon. Similar to the sinclair script.

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3141592653 6.7 years ago

What's the Sinclair script?

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Aasb 6.7 years ago

The sinclair group gives a script to all the local tv stations they own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWLjYJ4BzvI&frags=pl%2Cwn

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3141592653 6.6 years ago

Thank u

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septimasexta 6.7 years ago

CATCH WORDS AND PHRASES TO EXPOST ARTICLE AUTHOR'S INTENT Please comment.

"reconstructed memories"

"devotees of the QAnon conspiracy"

"murderous, Satanic, pedophilic deep state"

"(It’s a Trump-era catchall conspiracy: Pizzagate + Seth Rich + the Illuminati.)"

"innocent until proven guilty"

"automatically feeling a little suspicious."

"won’t extinguish that initial spark of suspicion"

"Guardians of the Galaxy director James Gunn’s, have been championed by the same citizen sleuths who powered Pizzagate, the unfounded theory that Clinton-linked DC elites ran a child sex-trafficking ring out of a pizzeria."

"digital wing of the American extreme right"

"an ancient propaganda tool"

"trades on fundamental human fears"

"a ubiquitous tactic because it works."

"how this strategy emerged"

"crime their society viewed as most morally reprehensible"

"justify mistreating the group accused of it."

"opposition as a subhuman beast"

"European Jews were accused of kidnapping Christian children"

"European Jews were the victims of pogroms and the Holocaust."

"Where false pedophilia charges go, genocide and repression follow."

"Keeping the focus on mistreated children"

"anger stirred by these stories helped keep millions and millions of people on the brink of nuclear destruction"

"steady drip of propaganda painting black men as a sexual threat to white women and children."

"helped lead to the rise of the police state"

"attempts to criminalize homosexuality (or block marriage equality) have also come along with accusations of pedophilia"

"accusations don’t fade easily."

"Jews are still charged'

"predatory black men"

"LGBTQ child predator"

"digital far-right’s pedophila obsession"

"unsavory sleuthing techniques."

" “citizen journalists” "

"those years-old tweets."

"excuse to cement vague feelings of dislike and mistrust,"

"photo taken 102 weeks ago."

"QAnon believers are holding up the “allegedly pedophilic other” to justify their own existence."

"digital far-right"

"directing harassment campaigns"

"Pizzagate conspiracy "

"Clinton: We may be deplorables, but we’re not pedophiles—you are"

"search algorithms will link your name to pedophilia—forever." https://www.wired.com/story/crying-pedophile-is-the-oldest-propaganda-trick-in-the-book/amp

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think- 6.7 years ago

From another article: 'Twitter Archaeology' (lol)

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Tallest_Skil 6.7 years ago

"reconstructed memories"

Claiming mental health issues.

"murderous, Satanic, pedophilic deep state"

Attach something “innocuous” (pedophilia, in this case, is their “good” thing) to something bad (everything else there) to diminish the strength of the badness of the thing. Standard COINTELPRO tactic.

"(It’s a Trump-era catchall conspiracy: Pizzagate + Seth Rich + the Illuminati.)"

Guilt by association fallacy.

"innocent until proven guilty"

It’s proven, though.

the unfounded theory

Proven fact.

"an ancient propaganda tool"

They’d know all about those.

"trades on fundamental human fears"

Such as outgrouping, which is what they’re doing.

"a ubiquitous tactic because it works."

OY. VEY. GOYIM.

"crime their society viewed as most morally reprehensible"

"justify mistreating the group accused of it."

Hey, they’re actually being subtle. “Mistreating”, as though childfuckers DON’T deserve a bullet to the brain.

"opposition as a subhuman beast"

Anyone who fucks a child is subhuman, yeah.

"European Jews were accused of kidnapping Christian children"

And were proven to do so.

"European Jews were the victims of pogroms and the Holocaust."

lol nah

"Where false pedophilia charges go, genocide and repression follow."

>False

"Keeping the focus on mistreated children"

Mistreated by… pedophiles.

"anger stirred by these stories helped keep millions and millions of people on the brink of nuclear destruction"

ON THE BRINK, that’s the key. ON THE BRINK. Never actually doing anything about it.

"steady drip of propaganda painting black men as a sexual threat to white women and children."

lol FBI statistics.

"attempts to criminalize homosexuality (or block marriage equality) have also come along with accusations of pedophilia"

Probably because the fags admit to fucking kids.

"accusations don’t fade easily."

Probably because the fags admit to fucking kids.

"Jews are still charged'

Can’t imagine why.

"predatory black men"

lol, FBI statistics

"LGBTQ child predator"

Yes, and?

"digital far-right’s pedophila obsession"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THE JEW CRIES OUT IN PAIN AS IT FUCKS A KID.

"unsavory sleuthing techniques."

“We assassinate entire royal families to topple governments, but you doxxed us online and that’s unsavory.”

" “citizen journalists” "

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA THEY REALLY DO THINK THAT JOURNALISM IS THE FOURTH ESTATE DON’T THEY HAHHAHAHAAHAHAHA THEY THINK THEY’RE ROYALTY

"those years-old tweets."

"photo taken 102 weeks ago."

“Oy vey goyim, the child is legal age now, so things that happened before it was legal are all kosher!”

"excuse to cement vague feelings of dislike and mistrust,"

There’s nothing vague about wanting to kill childfuckers.

"QAnon believers are holding up the “allegedly pedophilic other” to justify their own existence."

This doesn’t even make sense within their own worldview.

"directing harassment campaigns"

lol antifa

"search algorithms will link your name to pedophilia—forever."

Yeah, but they already link us to all manner of things.

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Zorrilla 6.7 years ago

It bothers me a great deal that the MSM has almost succeeded in making "conspiracy" synonymous with "conspiracy theory" in the minds of the public.

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Tallest_Skil 6.7 years ago

It’s 2018, not 1968. “Almost” became “completely” over 40 years ago.

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septimasexta 6.7 years ago

"How to delete old tweets before they come back to haunt you Or just don't tweet anything you wouldn't want your grandma or your boss to see." https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/how-delete-old-tweets-they-come-back-haunt-you-n896546

THEY ARE AFRAID. We are effective. THEY ARE SELF-CENSORING THEIR PEDO PORN! Keep up the pressure. We will win in the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.

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PedoStomperReturns 6.7 years ago

But it also means that they will scurry further into the darkness and out of our observable sight.

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ClairesDeLuney 6.7 years ago

Wow, they're so predictable & obvious. All they need is enough rope.

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Factfinder2 6.7 years ago

So they're dredging up the old "satanic panic" tactics of the 1980s to discredit victims of child rape and portray the rapists as the real victims. Guess we should have seen that coming.

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PedoStomperReturns 6.7 years ago

Just look at it as a way to also re-introduce the younger generation to the McMartin Pre-School case, because now in 2018, you can also show them the secondary investigation done by Ted Gunderson that revealed the underground tunnels.

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Factfinder2 6.7 years ago

Use their tactics against them. Excellent!

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Rawrination 6.7 years ago

Thing is.. the people with info on the satanic panic, knew it was real. It was just the evil bastards getting sloppy and thinking they where invincible.

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Vindicator 6.7 years ago

I wrote off both Wired and Gizmodo as compromised Mockingbird disinfo operations shortly after the Podesta leaks. These other features by them may possibly be relevant:

""Pizza" Party Codeword May Have Doomed CIA Spies. If so, its because of one of the stupidest, least secure code words in history. - Wired Magazine 2011" by @Orangutan

"Snowden tweeted link to article on Wired: "The Feds Would Rather Drop a Child Porn Case Than Give Up a Tor Exploit"" by @Pizzagatevoater

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Justaddcoffee 6.7 years ago

I thought wired was supposed to be about technology

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Mayhawk 6.7 years ago

It used to be, back when Silicon Valley was about technology. Now tech is about keeping society under it's thumb.

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Blacksmith21 6.7 years ago

"Alleging that your enemy preys upon children is an ancient propaganda tool that’s been used by everyone from medieval Catholics to the Soviet Union."

I wonder why?

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RickFlairWOOOOOO 6.7 years ago

Sounds like a jew writer pulling the scream BLOOD LIBEL and swear in yiddish while acting distressed shit.

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PedoStomperReturns 6.7 years ago

The mental gymnastics those Zionist Jews put themselves through is crazy.

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Enigmatic_Continuum 6.7 years ago

Go figure! The article's author, Emma Grey Ellis, is a Hillary Clinton supporter.

emmaladyroseShe understands foreign policy, speaks in coherent sentences and doesn't hate women!!!! https://www.instagram.com/p/BSkKHvzlgGk/?taken-by=emmaladyrose

And stands for every Democratic talking point including... https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ2_l3cFxXm/?taken-by=emmaladyrose

I especially like the comments on this one https://www.instagram.com/p/BQj70uwlsVE/?taken-by=emmaladyrose

She loves Obama emmaladyrose2008: the morning after I drank too many beers and cried tears of joy at our campus pub, I walked to the dep near my apartment in Montreal and bought the newspapers. back in MD, on the last day of @barackobama's presidency, I found them ❤💔 https://www.instagram.com/p/BPc5Z63hMW2/?taken-by=emmaladyrose

I'm rather touched by this one - and not in a good way. https://www.instagram.com/p/BM0cG2phPMI/?taken-by=emmaladyrose

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Blacksmith21 6.7 years ago

Who do you believe more - Sara or Tom?

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MAC712 6.7 years ago

I believe Sarah. I wouldn’t have in years past but would have thought her mentally I’ll and traumatized. That’s what the MSM will push.

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sunajAeon 6.7 years ago

There is no direct proof of Sarah's claims at this point

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MAC712 6.7 years ago

I understand that although there might be and we wouldn’t know. She has been verbal about this for about a year. She makes a tremendous point that no one is suing her for defamation or slander or libel. And personally I’ve done enough background research down many rabbit hole surrounding this and I believe her.

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sunajAeon 6.7 years ago

As I've said before-I personally believe her; but that does not equate to evidence her story is true. She has blocked me on Twitter for asking her questions like "have you signed a criminal complaint against your abusive family?" No answer, but lots of diatribe about all these people "questioning" her, although I understand (if this is true) she is acting out of pain from alleged unbelievable abuse; sorry, but you can't use Ashcroft's allegation that Tom Hanks is a pedophile to destroy a person's reputation. Supposedly that is why we are here on Voat, to discriminate such things. I have read Fiona's reports and find them believable also, same deal, i can't corroborate her accounts. Why would anyone lie about this? My first thought is such a person could be a plant, someone to tell all these stories and then be found to be a fraud; this would have the effect of making other such stories (that were in fact true) dubious, the desired effect. Or the person could have serious mental problems. This is a proven fact in a significant number of fantastic reports. I don't believe either of these possibilities is true, but until it can be corroborated its strictly an allegation

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Blacksmith21 6.7 years ago

Every week, the layers of the onion become peeled. Most don't understand there are thousands of layers to the onion.

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RickFlairWOOOOOO 6.7 years ago

It grows as you peel it...

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Blacksmith21 6.7 years ago

Ain't that the truth....

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o0shad0o 6.7 years ago

I don't suppose we could convince you to go through it point-by-point and identify where it's spurious, subby?

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Oh_Well_ian 6.7 years ago

Wow... 'Oldest political trick in the book, eh? ' Then why do they have to go back to the 19th century and pull the anti-Semitism card if that were actually true. No laundry list of examples of political takedown from bogus claims of pedophilia, either. The only recent case I can remember is Roy Moore.

Secondly, nobody hates Tom Hanks for his politics. He's actually beloved and respected across the political divide and even though he said some things about Trump, he has remained out of politics for his entire career. Nobody is taking pleasure in knowing he may be a child rapist, nobody.

Every Pizzagate researcher knew this day would come when the 'Witch Hunt' and moral panic defense cards would be played.