This is from the political record in Australia about the politically correct mass AIDS rape.

The anti-discrimination board made the policy change with gendercentre.org.au and the first email you got showed Christopher Puplick gave the funds to the gender centre as chairman of the southern area health service too.

The Gay lobby is responsible for making the aids rapes happen as well as covering them up.

The archive.is links in the first email shows you the case of the rapist after the rapes suing the prison for the crime of telling the other female inmates he had AIDS and won.

Luke

MADDISON HALL AND MULAWA CORRECTIONAL CENTRE The Hon. PETER BREEN: I direct my question to the Minister for Justice. Is the Minister aware that before her sex-change operation prison inmate Maddison Hall spent eight months in F Wing of Mulawa women's prison when a man? Is he also aware that during that time Maddison Hall, as a man, had sexual relations with female prisoners at Mulawa before the Commissioner for Corrective Services ordered his return to the male prison at Long Bay? How many female prisoners at Mulawa did Maddison Hall have sex with and how many of them fell pregnant? What steps will the Minister take to ensure the proper segregation of male and female prisoners? How many other male prisoners in anticipation of a sex-change operation have been inmates at Mulawa women's prison? The Hon. TONY KELLY: The hearing on Maddison Hall is continuing this morning, and obviously, I cannot talk on the detail of the hearing. I make it clear that the Government has not paid for any treatment for transgender inmates. I understand there are about 12—I am not aware of any others at the moment—but in relation to where they are housed, that is done in accordance with international standards.

The Hon. PETER BREEN: Mr McLean, can I ask about Maddison Hall, an issue the Opposition raised? It seems to me that Maddison Hall, as a man, enjoyed extraordinary privileges in F Wing at Mulawa. I am referring to the period 1999-2000. I understand that Maddison Hall as a man, as he then was, was in F Wing for about a period of eight months. Mr GRANT: Mr Breen, I have got to refer you to the legislation that was in place at the time, the anti-discrimination legislation.

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The Hon. PETER BREEN: Yes. Mr GRANT: It made it very, very explicit that self-identification of a transgender person is the sole criterion for a person to be treated as being of the sex with which that person identifies. Chris Puplick, who was the commissioner at the time or the president of the Anti-discrimination Board, was involved with the development of the transgender policy in the New South Wales correctional centres. It was consistent with that legislation. What that meant was that Maddison Hall was in fact the first person at that time—the legislation I think only came in around 1999—to be considered under those provisions whereby she identified as a female, and therefore needed, under the legislation, to be treated as a female. The Hon. PETER BREEN: Yes, but she also received extraordinary privileges. For example, I understand that she was allowed to cut down her prison uniform to wear it is a short skirt, and that no other women inmates were allowed to do that. But Maddison Hall was. Mr GRANT: I am not aware of that. I doubt it very much. There was a lot of suspicion and correctional staff are not necessarily the most liberated and lively people when it comes to accepting transgender issues. Maddison Hall had quite a difficult transition at that time into the women's system and did not last very long before she was moved out. The staff there would not have given her great licence or liberties I can assure you. The Hon. PETER BREEN: Did you know that she had sexual relations with women prisoners? Mr GRANT: I believe it has been alleged that she had sexual relations with other women prisoners but I could not confirm that. The Hon. PETER BREEN: Did you know that the department was aware that Maddison Hall was a man in with women? Mr GRANT: Absolutely. At that time, if I can say in relation to that, wanting to be in compliance with this legislation we took a lot of advice. We went to the expert at the time, who was the best psychiatrist working with people with gender dysphoria and took advice about these issues, and that was part of the advice that we used for making the decision. The Hon. PETER BREEN: I think there was a good deal of distress in the prison, not just on the part of the inmates but also from the Corrective Services officers, about her activities—his activities, rather—in F wing. Mr GRANT: That is correct, and on that basis and because of concerns about the safety risk she may have posed she was returned to the men's system. The Hon. PETER BREEN: She was returned, I think, after eight months. Is that right? Mr GRANT: I would have to take that length of time on notice. I cannot recall. The Hon. PETER BREEN: Are you aware that Maddison Hall used to brag to the inmates about having the green light from the commissioner and from Lee Downes about her activities? Mr GRANT: I doubt that very much. The Hon. PETER BREEN: Are you aware that the Governor of the prison, Judy Leyshon, was so concerned about it that she said to inmates that she had no control over Maddison Hall's activities because of the directions from above? Mr GRANT: I am certainly not aware of it and I would doubt it very much. There were absolutely no directions from above and under no circumstances was Maddison Hall given special privileges by Lee Downes.

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The Hon. PETER BREEN: Given the fact that the new legislation had just come into force—and you were aware that she was, or he was, the first case of a man being in a women's prison—it seems to me to be quite likely that there would be special directions from above as to what he could do. Mr GRANT: I think that the legislative provisions were only that a person be treated equally; not that they be given any particular special management. The Hon. PETER BREEN: You would not agree, for example, that her prison uniform had been cut down so she could wear it is a short skirt? Mr GRANT: I cannot confirm that that is the case but I doubt very much that that would have been something that would have been endorsed by people on high. The Hon. PETER BREEN: And you do not think that Maddison Hall was allowed to engage in other activities in the prison as a man, and do things that other women prisoners could not have done? Mr GRANT: Well, certainly with no knowledge of anybody in an administrative position. The Hon. PETER BREEN: And she did not have any special green light from Commissioner Woodham or from Lee Downes? Mr GRANT: What exactly are you inferring? I do not understand. The green light to do what? The Hon. PETER BREEN: I am suggesting that her activities were out of order in many ways, and when the inmates complained, and the Corrective Services officers complained to Judy Leyshon, she said, "Look, I can't do anything about this. I'm under directions from above." And she named Lee Downes and Commissioner Woodham as the persons who determined what Maddison Hall was able to do. Mr GRANT: I think, putting that into context, I actually have no knowledge of that whatsoever. I would suggest that when Maddison Hall, as I mentioned, was first transferred into that correctional centre people were not receptive to her transfer, which I think is completely understandable. At that time certain questions were raised, and speculation, about her behaviour. Her behaviour was very closely scrutinised. The much information came to light that she may be posing a risk to other people she was removed from that gaol very, very swiftly. I ended up going down to the Supreme Court to defend the decision to remove her from the correctional centre on that day, on the basis of concerns. It was a very elaborate process of seeking advice about exactly what risks Maddison Hall might pose to the people in that centre. We took it very, very seriously. The Hon. PETER BREEN: But it did take eight months, did it not, before she was removed? Mr GRANT: I am not sure what the timeframes were. The Hon. PETER BREEN: My understanding is that she was there for at least eight months and her activities were the same in the beginning as they were at the end, and that it took eight months to get her out. Mr GRANT: I think at that stage, as I mentioned, the activities you are alluding to were something that there was not hard evidence about.