Relevancy: NXIVM Corp. leader Keith Raniere was already arrested on charges of sex trafficking and forced labor. The raid on Salzman's home seems to be a follow-up to finding out information since Salzman was also a co-founder. But he scope may be widening since Salzman was also a member of Slick Willy's quote charitable organization unquote Global Initiatives. The notion that any of the Clinton's can be charitable is laughable, but there you go! The membership is invitees only so Salzman did rub noses or perhaps other body parts with Slick Willy.
Yippee and hallelujah! It really does seem as if the scope of the sex trafficking is widening and that law enforcement is trying to net not only NXIVM (WTH kind of name is that? Sounds like a gladiator pic!), but perhaps bigger fish in the global waters. A member posted about the first phase. Here's the post on Keith Raniere (spelled S-C-U-M):
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2469919
Now it's Salzman's turn for scrutiny. Her home was raided and here's the link:
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Feds-raid-home-of-NXIVM-co-founder-Nancy-Salzman-12784322.php
HALFMOON — The FBI raided the Saratoga County residence of NXIVM Corp. co-founder Nancy Salzman on Tuesday.
The hours-long search of Salzman's single-family residence on Oregon Trail in Halfmoon was taking place a day after Keith Raniere, the leader and a co-founder of the secretive Colonie-based organization, was arrested in Mexico on charges of sex trafficking and forced labor. He was sought by the FBI based on a federal criminal complaint filed the U.S. attorney's office in Brooklyn, which opened an investigation of Raniere's organization last fall.
Salzman has been a powerful figure in the organization since it was set up more than two decades ago.
The complaint, filed recently in connection with an ongoing federal grand jury investigation the Eastern District of New York, alleges that Raniere, known as "The Vanguard," took part in forming a secretive group within NXIVM that coerced women into joining a slave-master club. The women were also branded on their lower abdomens with a design that included the initials of Raniere and Allison Mack, an actress and NXIVM associate who is referred to in the complaint as an unnamed co-conspirator.
As for Salzman's membership in The Hellfire Club ... The Clinton Initiatives, here's another article from 2007. It was long before pizzagate and when Tony and John Pedosta were hammering pizza for about an hour and leaving map-related hankies for real estate agents to find.
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/01/more-funny-hillary-money/
A purported pyramid-scheme operator who was run out of Arkansas when Bill Clinton was governor has reinvented himself as the head of an upstate group accused of being a “cult” – and his devotees have pumped thousands into Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential run.
Executives and top associates of the Albany-based NXIVM group – along with their family members – donated $29,900 to Clinton’s presidential campaign, according to federal records.
On March 14 and April 13, records show, more than a dozen contributions poured into Clinton’s coffers from NXIVM, an executive and group-awareness training organization led by Brooklyn-born Keith Raniere, 47. Most were from first-time political donors, each giving the $2,300 maximum…three of the March and April Clinton pledges came from Raniere’s most high-profile followers: Seagram heiresses Clare and Sara Bronfman, and Pamela Cafritz, daughter of D.C. A-listers Buffy and Bill Cafritz. Cafritz shares a condo with Raniere.
The Bronfman sisters are also deeply involved with NXIVM and, according to a 2003 article in Forbes magazine, have loaned millions to the group and provided use of their jet. Their father, Edgar Bronfman Sr., once took NXIVM classes but soon severed ties, telling Forbes, “It’s a cult.”
Hillary isn’t the only Clinton NXIVM officials are attracted to.
At least three of them – group President Nancy Salzman and the Bronfman sisters – are members of Bill’s charitable organization, the Clinton Global Initiative. Membership is by invitation only and requires at least a $15,000 donation per person for one year.
It's hilarious, but the following was taken from the NXIVM's website:
NXIVM is a new ethical understanding that allows us to build an internal civilization and have it manifest in the external world. It allows us to explore our most fundamental nature and to begin to redirect our power of creation, a power that we all possess in a very human sense. It is a place where humanity can rise to its noble possibility.
Oh, yeah! Branding women is EXTREMELY noble.
bdiminishedminor7 ago
NXIVM ... N = 14th letter, XIV = 14, M = 13th letter ... the sequence 13-14-15 has great occult significance (Pie, anyone?) ... remember the 14 on Podesta's hand ...
migratorypatterns ago
Thanks for the breakdown.
think- ago
This article links to the full complaint against Raniere / NXIUM (about half way down the page).
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Excerpts-from-the-federal-complaint-against-Keith-12782890.php
Kudos to the Albany Times Union for having exposed Raniere already some time ago
@Vindicator @darkknight111 @LightlyToasted @13Buddha
migratorypatterns ago
Fantastic.
Yes, thanks Times Union.
LightlyToasted ago
Direct link: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4421505-Complaint-and-affidavit-in-support-of-arrest.html
think- ago
Thanks! :-) Document is accessible now.
LightlyToasted ago
Complaint made Nxivm sound a lot like scientology.
think- ago
Yes, there might be a connection - maybe Raniere was involved with Scientology at some point?
LightlyToasted ago
ITT it was a female co-founder or executive. Hwv, I also think that Nxivm & scientology are all linked to MKUltra control and blackmail to help fund the cartel.
think- ago
Yes, I'm still fascinated by the story about the hack of Edgar Bronfman's emails.
If true, the Wikileaks dump weren't the first HRC emails that got hacked....
think- ago
Laundry list for research:
(to be continued, will edit from time to time; please feel free to add more thoughts/questions in comment replies)
@Vindicator @darkknight111 @LightlyToasted @13Buddha
argosciv ago
FIND IT! (I've already found something to seal the deal)
@Vindicator @think-
argosciv ago
@Vindicator @think- @migratorypatterns @LightlyToasted @EricKaliberhall
I'll say it again... this is fucking HUGE! We've actually got 'em now...
Just need some more tangible(opposed to abstract) links from the rest of you(or me, whoever gets there first :P)!
hint: We've been down this road before ;)
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argosciv ago
Oh whoops, should have pinged @migratorypatterns instead... mp, see ^
Third time's the charm...
darkknight111 ago
https://searchvoat.co/?t=CGI&s=pizzagate&u=&d=&nsfw=on
Hits regarding CGI
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/board-directors
https://clintonhealthaccess.org/leadership/
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/leadership-team Stuff on the leaders.
think- ago
Thank you! :-)
argosciv ago
The relevance your list has, is astounding, I assure you.
I have some pieces myself which will shed some light on the extent of this situation. Hoping to finish write-up within next 72 hours - everything needed is available, anything more is gravy, though.
We've got 'em by the flip-flops now, really truly.
think- ago
Agree. Please link to this thread when you post something!
argosciv ago
Oh I absolutely will. I'm gonna ping like mad when I drop it.
think- ago
For further research, let's not forget this:
Richard Branson has hosted an intensive NXIVM course on the Caribbean island he owns.
http://observer.com/2010/08/poor-little-rich-girls-the-ballad-of-sara-and-clare-bronfman/3/
Branson, who owns an island just like Epstein....
think- ago
Research question: Why went Sara Bronfman to Libya in the first place (trip where she met her future husband)?
@Vindicator
BeTidy ago
That "independent" deep state "humanitarian" work in Libya, is a very explicit military intelligence connection to the cult. Also, with so many very prominent and influential women as "slaves" to the cult, one wonders whether its activities included yet another "compromise and control ring". Along the lines of Jeffrey Epstein's operation, or the Clinton Foundation, or Jimmy Savile's activities. Again, all suggestive of military intelligence, including the very slick cult mind control techniques.
@migratorypattterns
YogSoggoth ago
I am pretty sure we covered that on this channel. When Qgaddafi left for Zimbabwe on his way to destinations guessed, they set up a fortress in Tripoli much like the one exposed in South America recently. This was manned by Mossad and took children. Same operation, different country. They also killed dissidents and journalists who told the truth. It was Gaddafi who kicked out the fake jews in 1969 even though he was reportedly tribe by his mothers birthright.
Gaddafi with David Berg whose name has been linked to pedophilia and the CIA's MK ULTRA brainwashing. (RELIGIOUS MIND-CONTROL CULTS)
migratorypatterns ago
Excellent.
And we know the charges being made about the collusion between ex-French president and Skankles in ridding Libya of Gaddafi. And there's Benghazi and the set-up for the tragedy to follow.
think- ago
Yes, Libya seems to pop up again lately in our research, lol.
Not a good week for Hillary, especially since the newsoutlets will point out that she received money from the Bronfmans for her campaign and that the Bronfmans and Salzman were members of CGI.
migratorypatterns ago
Well, the evidence continues to pile up against her.
Not sure how high the pile needs to be before the DOJ takes action.
You know, I had a big question though. Not about Skankles, but about this cult sex ring. What was the point? That's what's missing here. Think about it, they tortured, molested, and branded girls, but where's the story about the agenda/purpose behind doing this? Just for Ranieir's pleasure? Doubtful.
If you notice in one of the links, it says that these slave members needed to upload video or whatever to the server. Upload what? Were these girls programmed to seduce and collect blackmail on politicians? Or corporate leaders? Were they gather information? I mean, come on ... they had to be being used for something because this was a huge, well-connected operation.
It occurred to me last night before I fell asleep and I'll ask it here .... what were these girls doing?
think- ago
P.S. 2: Someone said some time ago (unfortunately can't recall who) NXIUM was a Clowns In Action project.
migratorypatterns ago
Pretty high-ranking clowns, but then we had a Kenyan clown in the White House.
think- ago
P.S.: Also, if the story about NXIUM hacking Edgar Bronfman's emails is true - what kind of info did they get?
Did they use it for blackmail?
migratorypatterns ago
It's another angle. Why did she want those emails?
think- ago
Interesting question....we should definitely keep this in mind!
Nana66 ago
This should be wayyy more up voted...I have a theory that...just like on Reddit, people sit on new posts to down vote them and it puts some kind of algorithm whammy on the posts...and all it takes is one. In a few days this will be just another post that no one will see unless they go searching for the right terms. :-(
migratorypatterns ago
Thanks and I think it's due to the title. It reflects the major story the first link contained and not what I only suspected was a huge lead. Now that think-, Vindicator, DarkKnight are digging in, that hunch turned out to be true. I would have included the new direction in the title had I known. I sort of had a feeling to make a new thread that centered on the new evidence so members won't miss what's tucked inside the Salzman story because it leads to much bigger fish to fry.
Appreciate the support.
think- ago
Maybe make a summary post in a couple of days with the new info? Also someone suggested to do a summary post 'for normies' on v/news and v/politics. Maybe the wnd.com article someone linked (as a link post today) would be good starter for that. Has major info, but the rape of minors allegations are missing.
http://www.wnd.com/2018/03/clintons-received-cash-from-cult-leaders-who-brainwashed-sex-slaves/?cat_orig=us
migratorypatterns ago
Just coincidentally, The Kenyan launched a ten-year project studying the brain. Wanted to aid in the development of artificial intelligence.
think- ago
Federal Agencies? Foundations? Hmm.....
We should put that onto our research laundry list and take a closer look.
@Blacksmith21
migratorypatterns ago
A summary sounds good.
I rarely post in other places ... as you know.
argosciv ago
Again with respect: "I've got this" <3
EDIT: Sorry, to clarify, I mean I'm not going to forget about it - by all means keep digging, this is huge.
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Vindicator ago
Aaand the Dalai Lama is involved 🤤 Dalai Lama was paid $1 MILLION to endorse women-branding 'sex cult' after secret deal between Buddhist's celibate U.S. emissary and his Seagram billionaire 'lover'
migratorypatterns ago
Oh, dear Lord!
I never knew what to think about the Dalai Lama. I had misgivings, but would hate to criticize a religious leader that was actually trying to help people attain peace of mind. There were all these doubts about him doing that, though. And here's why.
think- ago
The Dalai Lama definitely is a badactor.
argosciv ago
With respect: Hold that thought...
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Vindicator ago
Look here: https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/816224.html#q816703
migratorypatterns ago
Well, now that I'm thinking about it, FB admitted to engaging in human studies also. Didn't Zuckerface brag about planted posts altering FB members moods? Outlooks?
Vindicator ago
What 65 Studies Can Tell Us About Facebook and Mental Health
migratorypatterns ago
OMG! This is depressing.
It's probably even worse than this and this is horrific.
Vindicator ago
I've always considered Facebook to be one big projection of Sorority bullying...(((FACEbook))). It's always been a shame factory. Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Here's the thing: sometimes people need to be hit in the face with a door to understand the shit sandwich they've been greedily feeding on. That isn't bad. That is the shortest distance between two points. This is a world made by Someone who created tigers...and tsunamis.
My life experience has shown me that people act most like human beings when they find out they have cancer, and in natural disasters and terrorist attacks. Mercy is not what the SJWs would have you believe it is.
migratorypatterns ago
So, basically, it's when our ego is leveled we become human. I'd agree.
FB, Microsoft, and Amazon are from the same litter. I changed the quote from Assange a bit because it fits. They never were what they purported to be. They served a function, but the bigger function was hidden. Same with Google.
Until someone finds out and uncovers where the money came from to birth these entities, we'll remain in the dark as to the origins. Someone with very deep pockets was behind Bezos -- someone that didn't mind losing millions and millions each year until they starved out competition. So who was this person Bezos parternered with?
think- ago
Person? I always thought the clowns threw the money at him. Considering they are now using his service.
think- ago
What?! I can't believe it.
So anybody can get money from private sources and do 'torture research'?!
@Blacksmith21: please see parent.
NorthPondHermit ago
Any relation to BettyLu Salzman?
"I can honestly say I probably would not be president today without Bettylu Saltzman," Obama said. "Love that woman." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-rallies-democrats-and-donors-for-2014/
BettyLu's father, Philip Kluznick, was also the president of the world jewish congress
migratorypatterns ago
Hey, thanks for this!
Another possible connection. We'll have to investigate that.
think- ago
Stephen Bronfman, Sara and Clare's cousin, was a major force behind Justin Trudeau's election success.
and.....
Did I already say this was a nice family? :-)
migratorypatterns ago
Unbelievable!
One you get one in the family, it could be law of averages, but two?
Yeah, this is deep ... and crazy.
think- ago
...wait until you'll see my next comment! It gets even better! :-)
Vindicator ago
You're on a roll!
think- ago
:-) :-)
think- ago
Sara and Clare Bronfman have been involved with two more foundations, according to Wikipedia:
migratorypatterns ago
Yeah, she works towards a more noble civilization by starving herself because Keithy-Weithy doesn't like fat chicks.
Physician:heal thyself.
think- ago
Sara Bronfman is married to a Libyan businessman and aspiring politician, who opposed Ghaddafi:
@Vindicator
darkknight111 ago
Given potential connections to the Clintons and Obama if we can find them, this puts Obama's imvolvement in killing Gaddafi in a potentially more damning light.
"We came. We saw. He died." -Hillary Clinton.
think- ago
The Wikipedia article gives an overview about her work in Libya:
@Vindicator
think- ago
While the Wikipedia article was a bit tame, the Frank Report has all the goodies about Sara Bronfman's husband:
Of course, all info needs to be checked. (The article is clearly biased.) Here's what it says about Bronfman's husband and John McCain:
darkknight111 ago
https://missionandvision.org/nonprofit/266041980/the-ethical-science-foundation/overview#board_of_directors
This is VERY suspicious. Only one person on board of directors AND trustees.
http://www.ethicalsciencefoundation.org
Website is also highly unprofessional.
This is likely purely a front organization.
migratorypatterns ago
Definitely agree.
Thinks stinks to high heaven.
darkknight111 ago
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/93/933644_wsj-news-alert-court-fines-warner-music-ceo-edgar-bronfman-6.html
Looks like there's a hit on one of the perps on wikileaks.
migratorypatterns ago
Re: Edgar Bronfman Jr. he started a venture capital group
And this is weird:
Media? Innovative and disruptive?
think- ago
This would be Clare Bronfman's brother, Edgar Bronfman Jr. Was accused of insider trading in France. Nice famiy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Bronfman_Jr.
Also, he was CEO of Warner Music Group.? Knowing what we know about the music industry...
darkknight111 ago
https://www.google.com/amp/s/frankreport.com/2017/11/02/ethical-science-foundation-tax-returns-2008-2015-bronfman-contributes-750000-for-human-experiments/amp/
Found some tax returns for the Ethical Science Foundation.
migratorypatterns ago
Awesome.
think- ago
It seems that not only Nancy Salzman, but also the Bronfman sisters were members of the Clinton Global Initiative:
https://twitter.com/The_War_Economy/status/978695262146318337
Also contains a link of all CGI members.
Thanks to @Vindicator for retweeting it.
migratorypatterns ago
Fantastic. Thanks @Vindicator.
Found this YouTube with a woman who alleges to have had a sexual relationship with Raniere starting at the age of twelve. She did report it to the police, but ... they did nothing. Is this starting to sound familiar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvchHhcfvzg
think- ago
A nice outline of NXIUM's money laundering and tax evasion scheme can be found here:
Also mentions that Mexican politicians and judges were bribed by NXIUM.
@Vindicator
migratorypatterns ago
I guess Killary isn't aware of anything that's going on .. the money just appears and she doesn't question how it got there.
think- ago
A nice outline of NXIUM's money laundering and tax evasion scheme can be found here:
Also mentions that Mexican politicians and judges were bribed by NXIUM.
think- ago
More info:
This article claims Nancy Sulzman was a 'hypnotist' - wonder whether she used this when dealing with cult members?
Also, the daughter of another ex-president of Mexico (Vicente Fox) is said to have been a cult member, Ana Christina Fox.
And, most interesting:
migratorypatterns ago
This.
" Keith Raniere was based in Arkansas, when the alleged ponzi scheme went bust in 1992 when Bill Clinton was governor."
KAPOW! BOOM!
think- ago
Some info about NXIUM's Mexico connection (via the son of Mexico's former president):
migratorypatterns ago
Why am I not surprised by this?
Why else would they be so determined to keep the borders open? Yeah, they don't want any monitoring that would make things tough for them.
think- ago
Yes, and Mexico of course is a very interesting country cough cough ....if you're into drug trafficking and human trafficking....
Vindicator ago
With a long and sordid history of human sacrifice, I might add.
think- ago
Yes. :-(
think- ago
This isn't a rabbit hole, it's a rabbit canyon!! :-)
It's getting better and better....
@Vindicator (beautiful, isn't it? :-) ) @darkknight111 @LightlyToasted
think- ago
Wikipedia article about Edgar Bronfman Sr.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Bronfman_Sr.
LightlyToasted ago
Wow, just wow.
think- ago
:-)
Vindicator ago
More like the maw of Hell!
migratorypatterns ago
OMG!
Brlliant! Sometimes you just gotta know what
hole to go downcanyon to dive in!I believe they could take down a good part of the cabal by following this.
think- ago
Yes, they could, but I doubt that they will.....but still, look at all these people who will likely get charged.....Bronfman is still on the run in Mexico, but hopefully they will get her.
migratorypatterns ago
Oh, they'll get her.
Can't get too far on 500 calories.
think- ago
ROFLMAO.
think- ago
From the Sun article @Vindicator linked (NSFW):
Remember when we discussed the 'Rainbow Cultural Gardens' run by Raniere some months ago and suspected he was also involved in pedophilia? Bingo.... :-(
@LightlyToasted @darkknight111
Vindicator ago
Speaking of "Cultural Gardens"... QAnon called this out in February:
https://files.catbox.moe/mc7req.png
https://8ch.net//qresearch/res/351166.html#351238
https://twitter.com/Vindic8tr/status/978843213208338433
think- ago
Slave gardens? Hmm...
Sometimes I like Q.... ;-)
LightlyToasted ago
He needs to hang!
migratorypatterns ago
Yeah, but remember pizzagate has been debunked and all this speculation is nonsense except when it turns out to be right.
think- ago
LOL. Remember that the Dalai Lama received $ 1,000,000 for speaking at a NXIUM event?
migratorypatterns ago
Really?
Nice.
think- ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Bronfman
toutedesuite ago
If not for the fact I have been a devoted goat lurker for a long time, I would not be able to wrap my mind around all of these tangled tentacles. There’s a sucker born every minute, I know, but who could have imagined how skillfully evildoers would identify and exploit them en masse?
think- ago
Yes, and I'm afraid we've been seeing only tiny bits of the tentacles so far.
migratorypatterns ago
Oh, jeez!
Pay-to-play Buddhism?
think- ago
LOL!
migratorypatterns ago
Oh, and I see Andrew Hauptman, a HUGE Obama donor, is married to a Bronfman:
I do remember that name from the emails, but don't remember what they were in connection with. I'll have to do a search.
think- ago
Yes, there was a Daily Mail article about it, I'll try to find it tomorrow.
The Dalai Lama, btw., was on friendly terms with Balthus, creator of pedophile art, and visited him at his home in Switzerland.
Tibetan Buddhism has a dark left hand path....
migratorypatterns ago
Yes. t does. Black hat. It's the secret sect. And Tibet is the country where families sell off their young daughters. But, naturally, the propagandists put a spin on it.
Vindicator ago
Giving this a "Potential Lead" flair, MP. Maybe we can get some folks digging into the web of these people's associates.
migratorypatterns ago
Thanks.
It's what I'm hoping because this goes deep.
Vindicator ago
They were systematically brainwashing, raping and BRANDING young girls like cattle with KR's initials.
https://kek.gg/i/4Lhh8D.png
Here's a new piece from the UK Sun: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5908552/nxivm-cult-leader-keith-raniere-arrested-on-sex-trafficking-charges-accused-rape/
migratorypatterns ago
Unbelievable.
The thing is that this story hit the news in 2007. The NYT actually even reported on it ... must have been the last time they did a real story. And nothing was done until now?
This operation would have never been shut down if it weren't for our POTUS getting elected. Skankles wouldn't have touched this with a ten-foot pole. And the thing is it's got that ''global'' aspect with fake visas and illegal aliens taking key positions. And Salzman and Bronfman connecting themselves to The Clintons is troublesome and not surprising.
YogSoggoth ago
Bronfman is a variation of the Bauer surname like Newbauer, Bower, Burr, ect. Yehuda Bauer tells you a little more about the origins of this family of many names. Andrew Burr was arguably involved with the the formation of the Republican - Democratic party along with George Clinton and others. I am talking 1790 on, here.
Are_we__sure ago
You obviously missed the front page Times story on this cult six months ago: Inside a Secretive Group Where Women Are Branded. It was mentioned here on VOAT.
What a ridiculous statement. So you not only missed the fact that the NY Times did an article on this cult six months ago, but you missed the fact that this article is what caused the cult leader to flee to Mexico and got the US attorney in Brooklyn to start investigating.
This is the same NY Times article mentioned in Keith Ranieres arrest warrant.
This story of branding of women was not known until 2017. It was not known in 2007. In fact the "sorority" where this went on was a secret within the group. The first accusations of branding outside the group were made in June 2017 on the blog of a critic of the group. This is probably where the NY Times learned of it.
Vindicator ago
We need pics of these assholes partying together we can make memes of.
The recruiting and handlers smacks of Epstein and Maxwell. We could put the pics side-by-side.
migratorypatterns ago
Great idea. The thing is that Clare Bronfman was used as an idiot attack dog using her billions to persecute those who left. I'm thinking those that left might be a good source of those pics. Bronfman had the nerve to sue someone on 3/24/18. I have to post a cached link. A lot of these articles about the operation are disabled, but that's probably a coincidence:
Of course, Ms. Bronfman may well have been addled by the 500-calorie diet she and the rest of Raniere's
slavesconverts were forced to consume. Meanwhile, he's a fat pig and looks sort of like Stephen King.think- ago
I will try to find some pics tomorrow.
think- ago
Thanks.
think- ago
Some more info about the Ethical Science Foundation:
From the testimony of another woman who took part in a 'study' by Dr. Porter for ESF:
Nancy Salzman claims to have 'expertise' in mental health:
Testimony of the first woman cited above continued:
Vindicator ago
Check this out: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2469942/12316816
migratorypatterns ago
Holy fucking shit!
And here's more. It's an open call for Porter's wife to run with the kids and escape!
think- ago
I remember this from an old Voat thread....they employed women from abroad for their kindergarten.
(Rainbow Cultural Gardens - aargh....)
I guess Mrs. Porter will be able to flee soon, when her husband will be in prison (hopefully).
Still: Why did he show women this sick footage which traumatized them?
migratorypatterns ago
Wouldn't it to see what effect it had so the torture could be more effective? You start with a baseline of how they normal brain worked when they walked in. Then you subjected them to images. Now they're hooked up, so he could see which particular images were doing the most damage ... and what genre of images. Then you see how their brain works after the bombardment ... and you see how long the variation lasts. In this way, they could see at what interval it needed to be repeated.
Then there's the whole ''normalization'' and ''desensitizing'' that they might have wanted to follow up on. In other words, how many times do the images need to be repeated to produce a flat line response ... or ... a pleasurable response.
think- ago
I'm afraid you're right. :-(
Remember - all regimes that practice torture actually employ doctors who are often present and monitor the torture (to make sure the victim stays alive, so that they can torture him/her a bit longer).
Also, medical professional help with figuring out what kind of torture to employ so that it will leave minimum traces.
Sick, just sick.
migratorypatterns ago
It is.
So much is wrong with this story including extending this to the general public. But it raised no red flags. Why would that be?
think- ago
What do you mean by 'extending this'?
There is still no official investigation into why the Health Department didn't look into this although it received several complaints.
Take a guess....
think- ago
Some info about the Ethical Science Foundation, which conducted the illegal experiments:
Ethical Science Foundation website:
(They might have taken most of the info down now - or never had much info?)
Actually I cringe now evertime I hear the words 'charity' or 'foundation', lol....
migratorypatterns ago
Thanks.
I do, too. I'm sure the people of Haiti feel the same way.
think- ago
Unfortunately I can't remember where I've read this today, but someone said jokingly Scientology should actually sue NXIUM, because NXIUM stole so much of their propaganda. Wonder what the connection is here.
migratorypatterns ago
Could very well be an offshoot. Especially because it attracted the likes of Clare Bronfman. Seagram's Business Empire? She has to be loaded.
think- ago
The Bronfman's are also in trouble:
Illegal human experiments? It gets weirder and weirder....
We should look into the 'Ethical Science Foundation'.
migratorypatterns ago
Yes, so again, what were they doing?
And did it have to do with making women ... or victim's .... more compliant in regards to sex trafficking/abuse? Or were they studying the effects on human guinea pigs?
think- ago
Time to look into the Clinton Global Initiative and possible links to Human Trafficking again:
migratorypatterns ago
Just added the new info. Definitely a new lead.
think- ago
K! Please be aware that we still have problems with upvoats after editing.....upvoats might not show.
migratorypatterns ago
Absolutely.
And this just reminded me of something I meant to put into the original post.
think- ago
Now that's interesting.....
.....remember the Clinton Global Initiative was closed down when Pizzagate broke....
migratorypatterns ago
Yes. I actually do remember that.
Perhaps Salzman had some tell-tale evidence laying around her comfy abode.