A different angle to "Ex Lithuanian judge and parliament member had to flee to the US from persecution. Brother was murdered because he was trying to expose pedophiles among high-ranking officials" (pizzagate)

submitted ago by andrevandelft

Yesterday this item https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2433265 presented a one-sided video of a alleged pedophilia scandal in Lithuania.

On Reddit a Lithuanian person, "Penki-", gives a totally different angle to the story:

Okay so some backstory, and I will go as unbiased as I can, but as a Lithuanian I would like to point out I am biased and I do support her detainment

So its starts with her brother committing a crime, he killed 2 guys. He was in hiding after that, naturally a child should be with her mother (legally) in such circumstances. If I recall correctly they were getting a divorce. After the murder the child was with his grandparents, and they refused to give the child to the mother. Latter they started claiming that the mother was involved in some sort pedophile ring, anything to avoid giving the child. They guy who was hiding eventually found dead. No clue how that investigation went on. The women that is detained right now was a judge herself. Mother sued her family and the court ordered to give the child to the rightful mother. They refused. They started rallying people behind them (that's why there were a lot of cops during the police take down, just a lot of other people potentially interfering). Police finally came with force to uphold the court's decision. They took the child, but because grandparents (and others) interfered it got a bit physical.

So going a bit further, the child is with her mother, somehow the child is fine being with mother even though while being with grandparents there were constant talks about abuse. Even more further away, she is trying to get into Lithuanian parliament (the story was a bit on point with elections, although probably not related at all). Going on high populism wave she manages to get elected. While she is elected there is ongoing investigation about the former case. Crimes she did: abuse of power while she was a judge, not upholding courts decision (WORTH NOTING THAT SHE MIGHT GET AWAY WITH JUST A FINE). To continue the investigation the court has to ask the parliament to take away her immunity, the parliament votes yes (usually case in any investigation on parliament members) When she lost her immunity she went to US and went into hiding. US didn't really bother doing anything (her location was somewhat know to everyone). So now they will probably give her to Lithuanian authorities and the story will end.

Correct the place I was wrong, cause this story is old.

Now for more biased stuff:

  • Her brother is a murderer and she tried to protect him. All claims about pedophilia came after the double murder!
  • She did commit a crime anyways, how ever you twist a story she did commit a crime.
  • I understand that the story is something that really hits hard it did in Lithuania too (hence the large crowds of people by their homes, and large police force), but it just doesn't seem right. Their claims seem to be odd.
  • Worth noting the story snowballed by the election cycle, where odd stuff might get traction, but we also live near Russia, even the guy in the video show RT video. It sure did a lot of turmoil in Lithuania. SURE, say its odd, say that we blame Russia for nothing, but once a politician that got investigated for corruption, fled nowhere else but to Russia. A truly friendly state.

News articles about this from major news sites in Lithuania. Most of the articles will be about her arrest (as it is easier to find cause its recent), but they do talk about backstory.

https://lietuvosdiena.lrytas.lt/kriminalai/2018/02/22/news/neringos-venckienes-istorija-dukterecios-gyvenima-paverte-pragaru-4845310/

https://www.delfi.lt/news/daily/lithuania/jav-suimta-neringa-venckiene.d?id=77240389

https://www.15min.lt/naujiena/aktualu/nusikaltimaiirnelaimes/neringa-venckiene-lietuvos-teisme-gali-atsipirkti-bauda-nebent-prokurorai-pasunkintu-kaltinimus-59-930258

Someone replied:

The child was in fucking agony while being taken away, that's something you can not deny, and blame on the aunt. Something was up in that house. Even considering that they made her lie, it's still not very likely for her to react in such a manner. She's going to her mother, yet she's screaming like she's being taken to hell. You do see that right? This girl is no A-list actress. She clearly is scared to go where she's been taken.

Penki- replied:

One of the reasons a child was screaming could be that she was taken away by a group of strangers from people that she knows with everyone yelling around. This would create a stressful situation for a kid.

Something was up in that house. Even considering that they made her lie, it's still not very likely for her to react in such a manner.

And I do not say to believe only one side, all I am asking is to not take an purposely emotional video as the only source material

https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/82f4lg/a_family_is_being_persecuted_for_exposing_high/dvb0cog/?context=2

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russpy ago

According to Wikipedia:

Frustrated with the apparent lack of progress in official investigations and convinced that the case was being deliberately stonewalled, Kedys sent out some 200 DVDs to Lithuanian politicians, media outlets, and law-enforcement agencies, featuring homemade video footage of his daughter's explicit testimony against three "uncles". He promised to send out the subtitled version to Members of the European Parliament. Many sources criticized Kedys, who acted as the cameraman, for asking his daughter leading questions and heavily editing the film (it contains some 50 segments filmed over nine separate occasions).

You can see a short clip of footage at the very start of the video posted.

How does that mesh with:

After the murder the child was with his grandparents, and they refused to give the child to the mother. Latter they started claiming that the mother was involved in some sort pedophile ring, anything to avoid giving the child.

If he had fled the country and she had stayed in Lithuania with her grandparents, he couldn't have acted as the cameraman, no?

TrishaUK ago

Great point!