Here's a thought..
On reddit, the shills use a discord chat server to plan and plot their strategies. They also all have tons of alternate accounts, and they have spent the last year (at least) infiltrating all of the major online conspiracy community/truth movement related forums.
If they are using these attacks to SUPPRESS vital information from spreading and reaching the masses, why can't we utilize the same strategies to SPREAD the information, and counter their attacks? This would require the hardcore users here to work as a team effort, taking the fight outside of Voat and onto other platforms where we can reach people.
If we used a discord server or "Kik" or some private means of communicating offline, we could coordinate ways to infiltrate a certain social media platform, the comments section of an article, or forums like GLP, Reddit, ect. The difference being, we would use this simply as a way to even the playing field. We are fighting a losing information battle essentially, because the enemy is well organized and well funded.
Why can't we organize and use their same tactics to help spread rational articles and beginner videos (like the Ben Swann expose') on all of the online media?
This isn't that big of a concept, and it wouldn't be that hard to get started. I think if we branched out and made a few accounts on the various forums and used a chat server, we could coordinate ways to start fighting back, systematically discrediting shills, pointing out false information and eventually pushing ahead in this information battle.
Here's a video documenting some of the coordinated attacks by shills on internet users.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53qYAWE8_kE
I too was a victim of this.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2323758
PM me if interested or contribute below, especially if you have any ideas on how to best remain anonymous during this.
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followthemoney ago
You don't have to infiltrate them, you just have to not believe them.
You can also set up automated social media engagement, like they do. Check out /u/SpecialAgentRando on plebbit.
Since the propaganda machine has no empathy, it is, essentially, an NPD personality and acts accordingly. When interacting with shills, just use the rules of interacting with NPD's.
https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/comments/7pje8n/neutralizing_the_poison/
Rule No. 4: Be polite. Politeness is its own reward and it is your best weapon. The longer you are steadfastly polite, the more a person’s negative overtones become obvious to themselves and the people around them. Never give the appearance of being the hostile party.
Rule No. 4: Ban sarcasm. This is more difficult than I thought it would be, but it comes naturally, now. Sarcasm is just going to be used against you and make you look like the jerk. Especially in writing. If something can be read either way, specify that it is an honest question.
Rule No. 6: Keep everything “court safe.” This means that you should expect a judge to look over every email and text message and have secretly recorded conversations. An imaginary judge. This judge is looking for the hostile party. You are allowed to be angry. You are allowed to have your feelings and act upon those feelings. Just don’t show those feelings to anyone who isn’t safe or anyone who doesn’t understand how and why you have to protect yourself.
As far as real recordings, I recommend hunting cameras that are triggered by motion activation and always having a device around, like a smart phone, that is capable of taking pictures, recording sound and recording video. Know your local laws about recording people.
Now that you know the ground rules, here are your three tactics that you should employ in every exchange:
Tactic No. 1: Telegraph the behavior. You can often predict the problem person’s behavior. Simply by telling them you are concerned they are about to commit that behavior creates a trap for them. You’ll get better at predicting when you practice, but with no alternative you can also just explain past behavior in general terms, so that it doesn’t repeat. Generally, don’t use any jargon. Keep it simple.
“I’m afraid you are using your inheritance as a carrot to make me do things that I don’t want to do.”
“I’m concerned you are having secret conversations that are being used to undermine me.”
“Is there a chance you are going to play the victim card if I spell out some of your hurtful behavior?”
Tactic No. 2: Reverse Triangulate This merely means you bring as many sets of eyes in against your problem person as possible. This simply means telling your problem person’s “flying monkeys” or “harem” about the behavior without using jargon before the behavior happens so that the credibility of the rumors against you begin to slowly deteriorate.
By including people in the conversations and always being consistently polite, non sarcastic and “above” secret conversations, the extra set of eyes force a person to censor themselves. You can even use imaginary eyes like your “journal” or a psychiatrist that doesn’t exist.
(I have a fake psychiatrist, btw, that I use. This psychiatrist believes in, first, controlling your own reactions to bad behavior and then using truth, honesty and positivity to counteract dishonesty and negativity.)
If you are caught in conversation, often use “Person A says...” and “Person B thinks...” where the problem person is now forced to go through the extra cognitive effort to work around these other people’s points of view. It also allows you not to attach yourself to good ideas so that they will be discredited. Bonus points if you can attach a person you don’t like to an idea you do like while hinting you don’t like the idea.
Tactic No. 3: Seek justification. Just make this a habit. “I’m confused, can you explain that?” “I understand you are upset, but I don’t understand why?”
When ancient history gets drudged up, use, “I know, that was a long time ago, but what is going on with you RIGHT NOW that is making you feel that way?”
You’re never going to get justification. Or, you might, but that isn’t the purpose. The true narcissist can control their behavior. That’s what is most cruel about them. They know what they are doing. By investing minimal creativity into asking justification in different ways, the cognitive effort your problem person expends is exponentially greater. Don’t get caught up demanding explanations. Don’t even consider the explanation you do get to be truthful. Just ask for it.