I know it's not been the whole 6 months we discussed last time, but it is indeed time to talk about the RULES.
As you all know, we have a place for meta talk about the rules and the mods, /v/pizzagatemods. It's not overly public, and it's not the most elegant solution to cluttering the front page here, but that's what we have.
This sticky is here because the usual monthly concern-trolling, and @Millenium_Falcon attacking by @ESOTERICshade gathered enough notice to warrant one.
This was the deleted post. This is the post I made with my findings on the issue.
As always, mods serve at the pleasure of the users of the subverse. Please make your voices heard.
This sticky is both a polling and a discussion. Discuss whatever, wherever, but the polling will function like this:
POLLING
On a base-level comment, type any of these numbers you agree with, in any order.
1 - Rules are fine, don't change them
2 - Mods are doing a good job, don't remove them
3 - Mods aren't doing enough, and need to recruit more mods, and remove more submissions.
4 - Mods are not doing a good job, we need to talk about removing them
5 - Rules are not fine, we need to change them
6 - Mods need to lighten up and let more things slide, let's talk about that.
7 - Try no rules and no moderation for a couple of weeks
8 - No rules and no moderation in perpetuity.
Millennial_Falcon
Millennial_Falcon seems to be a popular whipping boy here. Those that show up in /v/pizzagatemods with complaints tend to target him almost exclusively. The people attacking him seem to think they're not alone, but fail to provide any evidence of wrongdoing.
Keep in mind, your accusations and support for them will not just be taken at face value, like every accuser so far seems to have expected. They will be researched thoroughly, and if there is merit to them, something WILL be done. Please feel free to be the first to provide evidence of wrongdoing on his part.
And by all means, comment on any other mod you have an issue with. Hell, if you guys want ME gone, I'll hand over the reigns to whomever you think is worthy.
Poll will end on the 18th.
Oh,
9 - Stop asking us this crap for 6 months FOR REAL this time!
view the rest of the comments →
Vindicator ago
The shills are real, and after fighting them for awhile, everyone starts to make you wonder, especially if you are tired or have other things on your mind. Of course, that is part of what they are aiming for.
Womb_Raider ago
Do you seriously not question the things SBBH and kevdude have done on voat? I know you haven't been here for terribly long but you have to have witnessed it. Even in the past year they have caused multiple controversies.
Vindicator ago
Well, my main inculturation to Voat -- and online forums in general -- came through my experiences trying to help here in v/pizzagate. I was mostly a casual lurker prior to this, so I don't have any pre-SBBH context. I did, however, witness firsthand what went down on Reddit before the pizzagate sub moved here, as well as the downright vicious efforts to smear PG researchers, dox users, and sow discord between PG refugees and old goats that were rampantly driven by certain shitheads, and saw Crensch and kevdude effectively put a stop to that so research could continue mostly in peace.
I get that v/pizzagate's ruleset is draconian by Voat standards and that it rubs the libertarian spirit of Voaters the wrong way, but I also know what a shithole this place can turn into when the rules aren't applied, and that most places on Voat do not have people trying to destroy them 24/7/365 like we have experienced. From my perspective, @Crensch and @kevdude did not "cause" this controversy here this week. They responded to a flare-up of a controversy-in-progress that has been unfolding for months.
All that said, I don't really know what Soap Box Ban Hammer is, or it's history, or what it's denizens have done Voat-wide. From my cursory perusal, the sub seems to be mostly sarcastic shitposting. But I don't understand the history. Please link me up with any relevant material, as it is something I've been curious about.
Womb_Raider ago
Did you see the hubbub with identitarian/identitarians, for example? It was front page for days. Or perhaps the post about ExpertShitposter being banned from gaming for trolling, and then trying to oust the mod who removed him?
They do stuff like this all the time, they pick a sub and attack it. They try to remove the mod team and plant accounts they either are friendly with or have control of and they destroy subs.
Then again, you co-mod this with kevdude, heygeorge, and Crensch so there's no reason for me to believe you'll genuinely consider this anyway.