I know it's not been the whole 6 months we discussed last time, but it is indeed time to talk about the RULES.
As you all know, we have a place for meta talk about the rules and the mods, /v/pizzagatemods. It's not overly public, and it's not the most elegant solution to cluttering the front page here, but that's what we have.
This sticky is here because the usual monthly concern-trolling, and @Millenium_Falcon attacking by @ESOTERICshade gathered enough notice to warrant one.
This was the deleted post. This is the post I made with my findings on the issue.
As always, mods serve at the pleasure of the users of the subverse. Please make your voices heard.
This sticky is both a polling and a discussion. Discuss whatever, wherever, but the polling will function like this:
POLLING
On a base-level comment, type any of these numbers you agree with, in any order.
1 - Rules are fine, don't change them
2 - Mods are doing a good job, don't remove them
3 - Mods aren't doing enough, and need to recruit more mods, and remove more submissions.
4 - Mods are not doing a good job, we need to talk about removing them
5 - Rules are not fine, we need to change them
6 - Mods need to lighten up and let more things slide, let's talk about that.
7 - Try no rules and no moderation for a couple of weeks
8 - No rules and no moderation in perpetuity.
Millennial_Falcon
Millennial_Falcon seems to be a popular whipping boy here. Those that show up in /v/pizzagatemods with complaints tend to target him almost exclusively. The people attacking him seem to think they're not alone, but fail to provide any evidence of wrongdoing.
Keep in mind, your accusations and support for them will not just be taken at face value, like every accuser so far seems to have expected. They will be researched thoroughly, and if there is merit to them, something WILL be done. Please feel free to be the first to provide evidence of wrongdoing on his part.
And by all means, comment on any other mod you have an issue with. Hell, if you guys want ME gone, I'll hand over the reigns to whomever you think is worthy.
Poll will end on the 18th.
Oh,
9 - Stop asking us this crap for 6 months FOR REAL this time!
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letsdothis1 ago
WHAT ABOUT HAVING A RULE ABOUT MUTUAL RESPECT BETWEEN MODERATORS AND THE PEOPLE WHO DO A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING IN TERMS OF RESEARCH ??
Scirel ago
Yeah, that's actually a great idea. Anyone who has been here a number of months and has 1K or 2K voats has clearly been in the game and takes this investigation seriously. Perhaps the mods need to agree to give a little slack to such folks even if they (we) are a little snarly sometimes. So 1. and 2., but look at the poster and give a nod towards a slide to those who clearly take this seriously.
The biggest factor for me is that I think we are doing the groundwork investigation for people who will eventually do the dangerous work of arresting a bunch of these criminals. As investigations go, some leads are dead ends and some seem crazy at first but yield very fecund results. I would hate to see something get deleted that may prove to be the latter.
And yes, MF has ticked me off sometimes, but I don't think he has been overtly unfair to me. And my guess is he doesn't really care for me. But that's okay in the end because his Sticky is obviously excellent and his deletions were always rule 1 and probably for stuff that was on the edge anyways, so he helps me think twice about posting. But clearly he is on the side of the kids and wants to see justice for them.
But all that being said, I can understand that being a mod is a tough job, and somewhat thankless. I appreciate the efforts y'all put forth, and I honestly believe you are the good guys and want to see justice done on these enemies of humanity. As always, it will be the volunteers that change the world for the better.
Crensch ago
And what of the infinite bad leads that subversive elements will post here if given the chance? How much manpower are you willing to put forth in order to follow each of them to their conclusion, be it dead end or something useful?
It's called the Impossible Game. We all have a finite amount of resources and time, and the absolute best way to ruin this place is to cause stagnation due to too many "leads".
PG was originally supposed to only house the leads that had turned out to be useful, and could be spelled out in a post as a direct link that anyone could follow.
Scirel ago
My point is that you would give a little extra consideration to post something that sounds a little "crazy" if it is posted by someone who has earned a high number of voats and shown some talent for sniffing out leads over some months. Let the leash out a bit if the dog has been behaving. I've been here over a year now and am familiar with many of y'all and have been able to gauge of talents and insightfulness of various regular posters. Hope that clarifies.
Crensch ago
You're saying that mods should moderate subjectively based on who's been behaving?
I hope it didn't.
ESOTERICshade ago
The absolute best way to ruin this place is to have narcissists such as yourself in charge and the rest turns to shit on its own. You threw a party for about 280 people with this thread and less than a dozen cared to show up deal with your hassles. Me, kevdude, and vindicator all pointed out reasonable information as to why the thread was not handled properly. Instead of having a good sub you want to win arguments, or at least create the appearance of having won an argument. You wrecked our sub that tries to help kids and that is all we really care about, the rest is your narcissistic unimportant drama.
ESOTERICshade ago
Considering that you need us for your narcissistic supply, and we don't need you or want you, we will never know because you will never leave and go away. You NEED US to feed on like power tripping vampire.
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