I know it's not been the whole 6 months we discussed last time, but it is indeed time to talk about the RULES.
As you all know, we have a place for meta talk about the rules and the mods, /v/pizzagatemods. It's not overly public, and it's not the most elegant solution to cluttering the front page here, but that's what we have.
This sticky is here because the usual monthly concern-trolling, and @Millenium_Falcon attacking by @ESOTERICshade gathered enough notice to warrant one.
This was the deleted post. This is the post I made with my findings on the issue.
As always, mods serve at the pleasure of the users of the subverse. Please make your voices heard.
This sticky is both a polling and a discussion. Discuss whatever, wherever, but the polling will function like this:
POLLING
On a base-level comment, type any of these numbers you agree with, in any order.
1 - Rules are fine, don't change them
2 - Mods are doing a good job, don't remove them
3 - Mods aren't doing enough, and need to recruit more mods, and remove more submissions.
4 - Mods are not doing a good job, we need to talk about removing them
5 - Rules are not fine, we need to change them
6 - Mods need to lighten up and let more things slide, let's talk about that.
7 - Try no rules and no moderation for a couple of weeks
8 - No rules and no moderation in perpetuity.
Millennial_Falcon
Millennial_Falcon seems to be a popular whipping boy here. Those that show up in /v/pizzagatemods with complaints tend to target him almost exclusively. The people attacking him seem to think they're not alone, but fail to provide any evidence of wrongdoing.
Keep in mind, your accusations and support for them will not just be taken at face value, like every accuser so far seems to have expected. They will be researched thoroughly, and if there is merit to them, something WILL be done. Please feel free to be the first to provide evidence of wrongdoing on his part.
And by all means, comment on any other mod you have an issue with. Hell, if you guys want ME gone, I'll hand over the reigns to whomever you think is worthy.
Poll will end on the 18th.
Oh,
9 - Stop asking us this crap for 6 months FOR REAL this time!
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I was a lurker from the beginning, and signed up 4,5 months ago. I don't see the sub as active as it used to be. I don't know how accurate the numbers of visitors shown in the sidebar are, but imo there has been a significant drop in the last two weeks or so - very often from about 350 to less than 200.
Many people are still here, but thinking about leaving for good. Unfortunately, some of our best researchers are among them. I've been here only for four months, but the amount of time I've spent begging people not to leave is crazy.
As I said, I personally don't have a problem with the rules. I know why they were made the way they are, and that's ok.
What gets many people being frustrated, however, is an inconsistency in how rules are applied sometimes.
Example:
MF took down a post of mine (only one that got deleted so far). It was a newspaper article that said 10% of children raped in child porn were infants. I got a bit emotional over this, so I posted it on v/pizzagate, thinking since the elite produce child porn, it's ok to discuss it on the main sub. MF deleted it, and pointed out that I should repost on v/pizzagatewhatever. I didn't have a problem with that. (Gonna edit later and add links to posts mentioned.) I even wrote a PM to MF and apologized for being a bit too emotional before posting.
However, another post submitted around the same time which dealt with a single case of infant rape and chlld porn, the perp not being a member of the elite, stayed.
That was the point where I got annoyed. If rules are applied, it should be done in a consistent way. And I know that's what bugging other people as well.
Maybe you've seen it, I've really tried to be objective and fair regarding MF's work in the past weeks, and tried to encourage him whenever he did something I thought was neat. I refrained from complaining. I am aware we're all different, hold different views and that there will never be a mod that will be cherished by everyone. When you're a mod, you'll be the designated asshole for some users anyway.
However, I ran out of ideas how we could develop a better understanding about how to mod this sub with Millenial. So I think this post is great, I hope many will join.
Regarding A) and B): Many users need some help. When they're posting, sometimes they're in time stress, don't realize how to best point out the connection to pizzagate, or are not aware that their sources don't suffice.
It's not because they're generally too stupid to read and apply rules, but sometimes they need help. That's why I suggested to leave posts up, ask to fix (providing some help) and give a time frame for fixing.
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