YogSoggoth ago

Click the box to the Acid Family,. That guy hung out with photographer Tim Page, who was said to be too crazy for Hunter S Thompson to hang out with. Coconut island in the Mekong River connection, John Steinbeck also met Alan Ginsburg there. A bunch of guys taking drugs and pictures while people were dying all around them in the Vietnam War. Huffpost, THE BLOG 04/09/2014 10:55 am ET Updated Dec 06, 2017 John Steinbeck and the Coconut Monk

bopper ago

That all sounds familiar. But what link, to the Acid family? If you have time. I might can google it.

YogSoggoth ago

The link is in the box you told us to click on the Standard website. It just shows a wierd looking guy frying in the sun.

bopper ago

Oh, okay, thank-you.

YogSoggoth ago

Just in case anyone forgot, Photo Of Allen Ginsberg And Bernie Sanders Resurfaces ...

sfist.com/2016/02/22/allen_ginsberg_and_bernie_sanders_a.php Member of NAMBLA.

EricKaliberhall ago

Excellent work bopper! It's an evil nasty puzzle, we are getting a clearer picture of.

bopper ago

Yes the connections are being ever more exposed. Thank-you.

allconnected ago

http://mileswmathis.com/ http://mileswmathis.com/launder.pdf

Great work OP. The two links above provide some great backround. Judd was an INTEL project. Along with many 'modern' artist ofthe time they were promoted. 1). One reason was to detroy real art, real creative talent,and replace it with stuff that instead of lifting the human spirit left it empty and lost. 2). The art is also used to launder mass amounts of money.

DOnald Judd was an agent and highly likely his daughter is also. Miles, has done a ton of research on multiple topics and I suggest if people have time to read his papers.

YogSoggoth ago

As this flash crash seems to be happening, I have to wonder how many well heeled people of poor taste are looking at these ugly 'art pieces' on the wall, and thinking that they can just sell them to recoup their losses. Hope everyone here has an ounce of silver at least.

bopper ago

Thanks very much. I love Miles but haven't read enough of him, some stuff about Laurel Canyon. I need to read what he says about Judd. I really appreciate this info. Yeah, you're so right about the "art," and Andy Warhol was a useful idiot big time I'm sure.

allconnected ago

guess the link on Judd did not post. http://mileswmathis.com/marfa.pdf. you should give some time to Miles stuff he unravels a lot and will change how you see things

bopper ago

The other links worked but I don't remember this one. I well def check it out.

Lunger ago

West Hollywood is nothing but Gays and a Sherrif's department that is setup to protect them.

Gay are massive pedos so it makes sense that this sort of thing goes on in their backyard.

bopper ago

Nasy place. This is where David Cassidy's dad died, he was cruising the gay bars and burned to death early that morning in his W. Hollywood apt. Take multiple showers and healthy doses of disinfectant if you drive thru there.

Voatwontletmesignin ago

Serious question. I know everyone hates Donkeydich but he did alert us about Balasz six months ago?? I thought he was a shill or is he just throwing in some truth mixed with lies like MSM like to do? I'm confused?

DonKeydich ago

I have been the first to name much more than that.

The whole idea of "spotting shills" is itself a ploy; you would still need to somehow discern the value of the truth vs. the lie, which is not objectively quantifiable.

Obviously shills mainly commit LIES OF OMMISSION: not naming the real perpetrators, but muddying the waters with an abundance of leads and names. The classic example is Alex Jones and his crew, who ten or 15 years ago talked about Israel but now don't.

Consider how many euphemisms are applied to groups of mostly Jewish individuals: "neocons", "globalists" are the most famous now, the most outrageous is probably "Russian gangster." Jews run most newspapers and wouldn't allow accurate labels except when it reflects well on Jews.

The word "shill" itself is obviously Yiddish. Martin Luther wrote an entire glossary of organized crime terms, most of which are Yiddish. http://stanford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.11126/stanford/9780804781930.001.0001/upso-9780804781930-chapter-10

Ultimately you'll have to judge information for yourself, or risk the embarrassment of lauding an alt of a "known shill", which I have brought about here several times. Or is it dozens? Hundreds? You will simply never know. So grow up and stop claiming to "spot shills" like you have such a keen eye for them. You're all just depending on groupthink, which is the same reason no one accepts pizzagate in the first place.

Voatwontletmesignin ago

I should grow up!? Now I know why no one likes you here! You are an insulting arrogant SOB.

DonKeydich ago

yeah bitch, GROW UP!

Voatwontletmesignin ago

LMAO

DonKeydich ago

What's up @bopper, you dim-witted old man? And @srayzie you incredibly stupid, useless housewife? Still worshipping Trump and his kike family?

I saw this latest Q garbage on twatter and couldn't resist rubbing it in your faces. He didn't reveal shit, tards. I did, six months ago. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2028094/10004474

then again two months ago: https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2280116/11307971

...and you morons STILL havent found the most important thing about it although it's right there.

Balasz is a filthy jew rat by the way. This Q fellow is playing you like a fiddle, and you'll be entertained with these bullshit "intel drops" (LMAO) well into Trump's second term. What a bunch of fucking losers! But what can be expected from grown adults who hero-worship and rely on others rather than doing their own research?

Digital-Patriot ago

Is Twatter the typosquatter for Twitter?

Shizy ago

Oh, what a surprise, you're a pathetic angry little asshole AND A LIAR! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

"Waaahhh, girls are mean to me so I'm leaving, boo hoo" -donkey dick

What happen to that dipshit? Just admit you are IN LOVE 💜💜💜 with @srayzie already and stop playing games Romeo!!!

srayzie ago

LMAO 😂 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

srayzie ago

I knew you wouldn’t last long and would be back to being obsessed with me 🤣 Did Brock give you your job back because the FISA memo is stirring shit up? 😮 Afterall, you are the Number 1 shill on the pizzagate sub. 🥇

What’s wrong with being a housewife faggot? You are the one that thinks girls should be married at 15 and start spitting out kids. You are the one that says women should be home raising children and taking care of their husband. You are the one that talks bad about white American women being whores and feminists. Therefore, I am the type of woman that you say women SHOULD be. Yet, you are SO DUMB that you try to use that to trash me. LOL.

I think that’s why you are so obsessed with me. I am the type of woman you prefer, except I don’t shut my mouth because some retard on the internet thinks that because he has a pair of shrunken up testicles, it makes him above a woman. Your little dick doesn’t make you a MAN. It just makes you a male.

You don’t like women with confidence, brains or ones that put you in your place. I have used my knowledge of psychology and analyzed you like a pro. The first fight we had, I was able to tell that you are a small insecure ugly faggot that is intimidated by ALPHA MALES. In real life you would never pop off and talk shit because you would be laid flat by a REAL MAN. So you sit at a computer and bully others because it makes you feel a tiny bit more tough.

Your need to talk about your uncut noodle and how you try to act like you are some hunk who fucks a bunch of girls shows you have probably barely gotten any! Besides, I think you are Equine. A lonely older man who is still planning on writing a best seller using all that knowledge learned over 20 years! 😂 Clocks ticking. 🙄 Better get started.

Talk about useless. You barely said anything in those links except a couple of things you could have read in an article. LOL, Here are my favorite parts...

I’ve had a file on him for many months since I visited the SPiN Ping Pong bar in his LA hotel.

I have tons of research, but alas I have been labeled "shill" merely for having an opinion that differs as to who's TPTB.

So you’ve had a “file” on him and you have tons of research but won’t share it because you are labeled a shill? LMAO. First of all dipshit, you didn’t go visit that bar in the LA Hotel loser. You have no social life. Your lonely useless ass sits at a computer shilling forums all day. Second, your imaginary file is of NO HELP HERE if you don’t share it. Third, you are so emotionally fragile that you let us control you and keep you from posting because we might call you a shill? Awww poor baby. 🍼

The truth is that you are a Jewish faggot that lives in Arizona and were engaged to 2 different men but couldn’t even manage making it to wedding day! Your failure ass dreams of writing a book that will never come to be. You probably bent over like a little bitch and got pounded by that faggot Brock so that he would give you your lousy loser job back because flipping hamburgers required too much activity.

Oh and don’t act like I don’t know you have at least one alt that goes to my sub and talks shit. I already called you out. You will always be obsessed with me. Since you are of no help here because we may call you a shill, then get the fuck out and never come back you stupid fuck.

Hey @Shizy, the little bitch is back LMAO. Don’t forget to bring your bitch slap emoji and tear this faggot a new one!

Shizy ago

Ha ha ha 😂😂😂😂! How predictable, we knew little donkey would be back. He just can't stay away! What a sad little zit faced boy

srayzie ago

He’s LAME,

DonKeydich ago

Did Brock give you your job back because the FISA memo is stirring shit up? 😮

You had never heard that name before a year ago, and you're like 60, which shows zero political awareness, which is EXACTLY AS A HOUSEWIFE SHOULD BE. Please name one single positive thing that has come from women being involved in voting or policymaking. Allow me to anticipate your response: abortion.

What’s wrong with being a housewife faggot?

Nothing. What's wrong is you involving yourself in matters you're not suited for. I saw your sub: "I won't tolerate bad words about our president or whether he's a Zionist" LOL clearly you are a seeker of truth wherever it leads, and totally not naïve at all.

You don’t like women with confidence, brains or ones that put you in your place. I have used my knowledge of psychology and analyzed you like a pro.

That's what proves my point: confidence comes from VALIDATION, not from the mere postulation. I imagine you are a fat slob who drinks a box of wine before lunchtime, but with no way to confirm that I can't actually derive satisfaction from guessing it. Oh wait you admitted you had problems with alcohol, yep, it's funny again. Guess what: women shouldn't drink either. Btw 'psychology' is total junk science from sick depraved Jews like Freud who wrote openly about wanting to sabotage whites.

First of all dipshit, you didn’t go visit that bar in the LA Hotel loser.

Yeah and a slut there told she was warned about Kevin Hart's manager, maybe look into him whoever he is.

I also visited the SF one, which has some odd decorations: https://s14.postimg.org/uolsmvtjl/84783189.jpg

As you know SF is built on hills and there are many tunnels. Even you should recognize this symbol after an entire year: https://s14.postimg.org/r8todjtsx/2523618.jpg Do I even need to inform you who introduced it to California?

The truth is that you are a Jewish faggot that lives in Arizona and were engaged to 2 different men but couldn’t even manage making it to wedding day! Your failure ass dreams of writing a book that will never come to be. You probably bent over like a little bitch and got pounded by that faggot Brock so that he would give you your lousy loser job back because flipping hamburgers required too much activity.

yep yep yep. Q didn't reveal shit though. Because he is a kikeshill. Or as he would explain that to you in his GAY "socratic" style: "Why has ISIS never attacked Israel?"

Oh and don’t act like I don’t know you have at least one alt that goes to my sub and talks shit. I already called you out. You will always be obsessed with me.

Nope. But keep up that attitude, that it's all about you. After all the entire economy depends on the vanity and capriciousness of women, and we wouldn't want the credit markets to stall would we!

srayzie ago

You know I’m not even close to 60. You think I’m a fat slob... that’s why you complimented me privately in the beginning after seeing me in Twitter. I haven’t drank in 4 years. You know all this. That’s all you can come up with. Lol. Your lame pictures of a wall do not prove you went to that hotel. I don’t have anymore time to waste on you right now. I have things to do. 🙄

DonKeydich ago

LOL yeah that's what I need, to follow YOUR BLACK ASS ON TWITTER. did you really put your real picture?? is there no limit to the cucking your husband will endure? why is having driven to a hotel worth lying about LMAO youre so fucking dumb. yes go collate more Qike posts, because YOU are the chosen ones whom he needs to spread info...not, say, professional journalists with real contacts and influence haha

srayzie ago

How is Jude doing? 🤔

srayzie ago

I’m not black. But, I remember you said you like black chicks 👱🏿‍♀️

Vindicator ago

Giving this a Potential Lead flair Bopper. :-)

bopper ago

Thank-you :)

joey4track ago

This is the kind of shit that pisses me off when normies think that pizzagate is 'debunked' and say its all crap because 'they don't even have a basement' They really have no fucking clue what is really going on and it's infuriating how much evidence there is of these sick fucks all over but still all we hear is 'its fake news'

bopper ago

That's a great article, thanks.

Cc1914 ago

Whoa! Very creepy!

ESOTERICshade ago

Great post bopper. This hotel is a solid lead. Some creepy shit going on here.

bopper ago

Yeah it hit me that Judd's daughter (Alefantis really digs John Judd) is a darling of the hotel. Thanks.

ESOTERICshade ago

And Adam Schiff is friends with the politician who was involved in the West Hollywood death of the young black guy they were messing with and giving drugs to. (Google it, some of us probably remember.)


That was Ed Buck's sick ass.


Hillary Donor Involved In Sex, Drug, and Manslaughter Scandal in West Hollywood!

https://joeforamerica.com/2017/08/hillary-sex-drug-manslaughter/

bopper ago

Thanks, I think that's the link I was looking for but just didn't add it for brevity sake. Oh yeah, that black kid I remember cause he's from north Houston, way north. It was a local story.

Are_we_sure ago

I guess all this wonderful art has to do with money laundering.

There's never been a scintilla of proof of the money-laundering schemes alleged on VOAT--that high prices for modern art are a way of hiding money laundering.

In fact the case I have seen for art involved in money-laudering involve UNDERPRICING THE ART to avoid import taxes or to be able to move large sums across border in physical way----take a $5 million painting to customs and declare it at $200,000, then resell it at its actual value and pocket the cash.

These second type of scheme and indeed the entire art market involves the art actually fetching high prices outside of any criminal scheme.

AngB23 ago

Hhmmmmm.....I thought this was pretty much common knowledge. What better way to launder money than through art where only the elite are invited to private auction houses

“According to the air bill slapped on the crate that arrived at Kennedy International Airport from London, an unnamed painting worth $100 was inside. Only later did federal investigators discover that it was by the American artist Jean-Michel Basquiat and worth $8 million.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/arts/design/art-proves-attractive-refuge-for-money-launderers.html

“Although art collectors will pay hefty sums for aesthetic reasons, high art prices and secretive auction sales have also become a prime money laundering vehicle.

Money laundering in the high-end art world happens in two primary ways:”

http://jansentax.com/art-money-laundering/

“Laundering Drug Money With Art”

https://www.forbes.com/2003/04/08/cx_0408hot.html#31bec91866fc

Are_we_sure ago

“According to the air bill slapped on the crate that arrived at Kennedy International Airport from London, an unnamed painting worth $100 was inside. Only later did federal investigators discover that it was by the American artist Jean-Michel Basquiat and worth $8 million.”

That confirms the type of money laundering I was talking about, Laundering based on the ACTUAL Value of art and the actual art market.

A. Taking dirty drug money and making it clean B. Undervaluing painting to move large sums across borders.

Note that the Basquiat painting is actually worth $8 million dollars.

What folks on here have talking about is a completely different form of money laundering, IMAGINARY VALUE of art. They are saying there's no way a Basquiat painting could be worth $8 million and the only reason that much money is changing hands is for bribes. They are talking about paying someone $8 million dollars for a painting that is NOT WORTH that amount. It's the opposite of real world art crimes. It's a fantasy.

bopper ago

You and I aren't privy, because there's no "evidence" to us doesn't mean speculation is not warranted.

What do you think, is Adam Schiff a creep or what? Be honest, I have to log off soon. How about Q, you like Q ?

Are_we_sure ago

....doesn't mean speculation is not warranted.

Yes, but theory being speculated about makes no sense. If I sell you a 1,000 dollar painting for 600K because it's really about moving money from elsewhere, and you try to sell that painting you're not going to get 600K for it. You're now out 600K. You don't actually see these wild price fluctutations in the art market. Prices are far more stable. If art was being moved at high prices for which there was no demand for that art, you'd see wild fluctutations all the time.

No I don't think Adam Schiff is a creep.

Q is fantasy.

Yuke ago

If it's about moving money from elsewhere then you wouldn't expect to sell the painting for $600k yourself, you just surreptitiously moved $600k of your money elsewhere, i.e; paid for something off the books. It's not about what you can then make from it. The reason why the art market is perfect for this kind of money movement is because the prices aren't set in stone like many other goods, and what, on the surface, looks like an innocent purchase of art, underneath can be easy bribes and laundering, and so on, and nobody would really know except for the people directly involved in the sale.

AngB23 ago

^^^^^^BINGO^^^^^^

Also, can use art for other sales: drugs, HumanTrafficking, CP.....

urbanmoving ago

Hey that pillow was heavy...

bopper ago

Well if Scalia was that screwed up what was he doing a million miles from home in the middle of nowhere. And this is nowhere trust me I been there several times. And no autopsy. In Texas. But that wouldn't bother you cause you're not concerned they stole JFK from Parkland, weapons drawn, eyewitness testimony, defying Texas law.

Are_we_sure ago

You're majoring on minors

???

And remember how nice I have treated you okay? ???

You don't have to have an autopsy when an old person in poor health and heart problems dies in his sleep and no signs of foul play.

think- ago

You don't have to have an autopsy when an old person in poor health and heart problems dies in his sleep and no signs of foul play.

ROFLMAO

Are_we_sure ago

Why does that fact surprise you. It's the truth in the majority of deaths in the US.

bopper ago

This is a famous supreme court justice you dummy. Who died in Texas. With initial conflicting reports about the positioning of the pillow.

Are_we_sure ago

And .....so? Because he's a justice, we should overnturn the law and his family's wishes?

The only initial conflicting report about where the pillow was found was from the rancher who clarified what he said when asked a direct question. He's never changed his story. The controversy was basically manufactured.

bopper ago

Texas law requires autopsy unless it's been changed, and we should have learned via Kennedy to obtain one for such high profile people, and all Congressional members should undergo drug testing. Now get on the Q train.

Are_we_sure ago

Texas law requires autopsy unless it's been changed,

That is not the case. In these very large, sparsely populated counties, the Justice of the Peace can be hundreds of miles away. Given that there were not suspicious circumstances, she was able to proclaim cause of death by speaking with the law enforcement on the scene and his doctor. He was in very poor health. His family did not want an autopsy.

The Texas judge who pronounced Justice Antonin Scalia dead over the weekend but did not request an autopsy defended her decision Tuesday in the face of questions and conspiracy theories floating online, saying she was respecting the wishes of his relatives.

After Scalia died suddenly at a remote West Texas resort, a chaotic and confused scene unfolded in the remote region not far from the border with Mexico. It took hours to find a justice of the peace, and when they did, Presidio County Judge Cinderela Guevara pronounced Scalia dead without seeing his body, which is allowed under Texas law.

This decision was made based on what Scalia’s family wanted and what she was told by a law enforcement official, Guevara said.

Guevara decided against the autopsy after the county sheriff told her “there were no signs of foul play or struggle, and that it appeared that Justice Scalia had died peacefully in his sleep,” she said in a statement Tuesday.

....After that, Guevara said, she reached out to Scalia’s attorney, who said “that the family requested that there be no autopsy, that they believed Justice Scalia had died of natural causes, and they preferred there be no delay in the return of Justice Scalia’s remains to Virginia.”

She then reached out to Scalia’s personal doctor, who “stated that he believed that the death was due to natural causes,” according to Guevara.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/02/16/texas-judge-defends-decision-not-to-order-autopsy-for-justice-scalia/?utm_term=.94b1b833159b

Kennedy of course, did have an autopsy.

bopper ago

Yeah I know all this.

Are_we__sure ago

But you're such a normie.

I always think this is hiliarious when used as an insult. So I"m an non-paranoaic? I"m not austistic? What does that even mean?

Citing WaPo gets you no brownie points round here.

Think that concerns me?

we're about to get some truth

A boy can dream.

bopper ago

The old saying if you don't know who the sucker is in the room it's probably ... that's a normie. Blind sheep. Pollyanna's. It's okay my wife is a normie. You could use a little paranoia. You think everything's okay, it's all good, nothing to see, nothing wrong. While Rome burns. I'm still trying to get you fixed.

Are_we__sure ago

The old saying if you don't know who the sucker is in the room it's probably ... that's a normie.

Actually I've found that folks on this site are absolute suckers for the likes of Alex Jones or George Webb or YourNewsWire....etc, etc, etc, or various Anons. Unbelievably gullible over and over and over again.

You think everything's okay, Actually that's not me at all. I don't think everything's OK, but I understand the difference between actual skepticism and the nihilistic,cynicism that passed off by people who think of themselves as more highly discerning. In reality, there response are absolutely knee-jerk and they have tossed all discernment out the window about with the bathwater and the baby.

bopper ago

I know, there are some nuts on here, the quality of the site has gone down, of the posters, but Qanon is helping to reinvigorate. You do think basically everybody in govt. is fairly well intentioned, good hearted, etc. That the world is not ensconced in evil. Should you not think outside the box a bit more, do more abstract thinking. Also, have you considered working for yourself. Also, how do you stand getting attacked and downvoted so much here?

bopper ago

You puzzle me. And remember, I treat you better than anybody here. But if you can't get past the Warren Commission being a work of fiction then there's just no hope.

urbanmoving ago

Limo stop, proven. So what is this Zapruder bs? Its a reworked fabricated pile of visual trash, Nix said his film was butchered and edited, as did ALL THE OTHERS that GOT their film back....narrative control..My Namesake ;)

bopper ago

What's scary is that I think this person, Are we sure, actually really believes Oswald "acted alone." Oswald didn't even "act."

urbanmoving ago

Oswald stood in a doorway

bopper ago

Yes I've heard that, it's still kind of controversial.

InnocentAngels ago

Here is the West Hollywood politician you are talking about. Warning: Some people may find material disturbing. http://www.wehotimes.com/allegations-death-sex-worker-plaque-influential-west-hollywood-political-insider/

bopper ago

Thanks for that link. Ed Buck is a piece of work. There is another more "mainstream" link somewhere as well.

InnocentAngels ago

I saw the article a couple of days ago. I didn't remember seeing it here, but it may have been posted. Yeah, he's one sick puppy. He used and abused them by pumping them full with drugs.

PaisaHunter ago

I've been to Marfa and it is a very weird place. Nothing is open during the week and it is near the ranch where Scalise died.

urbanmoving ago

Hand of Death Cult

think- ago

What is the 'Hand of Death' cult?

think- ago

TY!

urbanmoving ago

Yea 4pi was tied into HOD i thought this was the vid that HSW talked abotu HOD sorry. Dave Mcgowan was onto to something

srayzie ago

Great post @Bopper! We need to keep looking into this hotel!

think- ago

As you all know - I'm not into Q....but 'm really grateful that he pointed us to the Standard Hotel....so for the first time I actually appreciate one of his messages.

If the occasion wouldn't be so sad, I'd say all drinks are on me tonight.

bopper ago

Check out the lovely musical acts they promote and book there at the Standard Hotel. Which Q blew the lid off. Warning, nothing we've not seen before but the music is a bit hypnotic and there's some nudity and some 'go figure' stuff. Just bizarre. Like Majestic Ape.

https://youtu.be/sBzrzS1Ag_g?t=113YouTube

https://vimeo.com/17444911Vimeo

think- ago

Original investors in the Hollywood hotel included Leonardo DiCaprio

(((Leonardo DiCaprio))) is on my watch list since I learned he collects the work of a painter who does MK Ultra/satanist art.

GhostOfSwartz ago

And he practically lived at Hefner's mansion.

bopper ago

I didn't know that. These Hollyweird folks are all spirit cookers tho as I'm sure you know.

https://youtu.be/tB_YBA2bm0g?t=224

think- ago

Yep, will try to find the old voat thread where the name of the artist was mentioned.