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Dreamland ago

Just a thought, but people with better sleuthing skills than me might want to check out the Wonderland clinic and see where that rabbit hole goes. I did a bit of digging a while back, and there seems to be some meat on this particular bone. It caught my attention because of the whole 'Alice in Wonderland' programming mentioned by Fritz. Celebs seem to check in there with MPD programming issues. I found a link to the purchase of a machine bought from France to 'deprogram' people who had MPD. The reason I mention it in this context, and it baffled me at the time, was that I also found links from the management to strange combat training groups for kids with links to iirc Armenian/central European orthodox high church. The woman at the top also sold jewellery to the Obamas. May be nothing, but.

migratorypatterns ago

This is awesome.

Thanks for the tip. Will most definitely be checking this out.

Big UpVoat for you.

Dreamland ago

Thanks.. hope it proves juicy. Iirc it was (when I was researching, two years ago) owned by a couple of guys, and one of their wives. Not much info out there at all. May need to hit the wayback machine hard. I remember seeing a pic of some major religious dude in one of the links (think it was from the combat page), massive beard, all the accoutrements of high church, etc. Think they had a few other offshoots, one in Ireland? Seemed on the surface to be touting 'keeping kids safe through self defence' or some such. I just thought it was odd that a clinic would be investing in such offshoots. That and the jewellery link to the Obamas. Oh and of course there was that secret Alice in Wonderland themed party the Obamas threw...'Curiouser and curiouser'...

migratorypatterns ago

Yes. It is a tightly-knit cabal. Each part of it has a purpose and they all link together for one thing.

I noticed on Twitter the idea of this self-made genius being shot down. The new narrative is that there is no such thing as genius. It's a matter of the number of hours you put into something. Patently untrue. There were geniuses and self-made men/women. but the new narrative is to get people to band together for strength. In its best sense, it's like a pride of lions. In its worse sense, it's jackals and vultures. There's nothing wrong with networking except when you use in cabalistic fashion to undermine all else. Prime example: Amazon. It's too big for its own britches and keeps bloating from the companies it ruins and wealth accumulated. We've been warned of secret societies and this is the result of not taking the warnings seriously. After all, conspiracy theorists fantasized that something was afoot. It was real ... but it was. Just like the predation on youth is real. Take away the dream of being an individual and you have this ... losers clumping together like feces and spreading their disease through attained power.

I can't wait for this cabal to fall, but every time there's a glimmer of hope, it disappears. Like the FISA memo. The dems release a statement that it was just talking points and that nobody even read it. POOF! All gone. Here it was building to be this juggernaut to start bringing the insidious cluster of cabalists down and it disintegrates before it's even released. Very frustrating. I pray Assange has the goods because verifiable, undisputable proof about the political leaders funding and fostering terrorists groups like ANTIFA is the only thing that will work.

Dreamland ago

I agree whole heartedly, apart from Assange. If you judge a man by the company he keeps, he has shared a lawyer with, and been in bed with, some rather nefarious characters without explanation on his part. Then there was the recent green-screened collar incident. Many years ago I came across an account of his early days in Australia, finger tapping phone switches from public phones to hack organisations etc. A fascinating read, but..It seemed to lead to the all C-ing eye aye... It's just my opinion, but he seems to be limited hangout, or as my other half would say, 'all fart, no poo'.

That being said, wikileaks has put many people in the spotlight who would, I suspect, rather not have been there, and that's a good thing.

Yeah the FISA report will probably wither on the vine, but I just see it as part of their 'death by a thousand cuts'.

As to the bigger picture? The puppet masters? Hmmm. I just get the feeling that you don't ever get into positions of influence unless you can be influenced. What we seem to be revealing when discovering incongruous actions that just don't sit right, is some sort of blackmail 'top trumps' deck. Who has the most dirt on their opponents wins. Unsure about Trump. The previous Kleptocrats had to go, for sure, but at what cost?

Btw, Have you come across this guy? He makes some interesting connections. His website is a little all over the place, and he's not always right I don't think, but he's erudite never the less. Drumpf

migratorypatterns ago

Yes, I have come across and read his posts. He is erudite, but he reminds me of that TV series LOST. Many people I knew watched it. I warned them telling the writers were also LOST and just including anything that sprang up on their radar. He reminds me of that, but nonetheless provides some very hidden events that make it invaluable for intel mining and research.

As for Assange, the problem is that he refuses to fit our definition of what a benefactor and political leader acts like. Yes, of course, he rubs shoulders with all sorts because all sorts may know something. That's the thing great men/women understand. But you need to either be a narcissist or humanitarian to be able to properly cull and put up with the rabble and sin. The narcissist will be able to do it with his unshakeable conviction that he is right and these others are there to serve him. The humanitarian does it by possessing a basic love and understanding that everyone has a divine place and time to live and be a part of this drama. If I had to guess, I'd say he's the latter. He's also complex and difficult, and I'm sure, fighting many foibles. But the most important thing is that I do believe he's interested in the truth which makes him rather noble.

Dreamland ago

Perhaps. All we can do is keep pushing eh. Something's gotta give. Sometime. The new control systems seem to depend on camouflage and garnering public opinion via sock puppets etc rather than direct censorship. We have to pick this narrative apart, with many caveats, the best lies are 99% truth etc, the question is, which 1%? Fascinating times. I do like the collective spirit behind voat. Crowdsourcing at its best. Anyway.. thanks for your measured, interesting posts. Meanwhile, according to mcba, the Kardashians claim to be Armenian, and Kanye had one of his kids initiated into high Armenian church. Funny old world, isn't it?