I've been following Pizzagate since last October. I seem to be in the minority among you in m skepticism for Trump and his establishment. What makes you all trust him so much? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by djklbd

From what many of us are gathering on /pol/ and r/conspiracy lately, we're starting to doubt the "anti establishment" qualities of his presidency.

To me, it seems as if the elite chose him as a populist to appeal to theorists and subvert our effectiveness as the truth movement. We are traditionally skeptical of politicians, especially the presidency.

At seem as if the trust for trump spread once the "alternative media" starter to endorse him. Alex jones, PJW, cernovich,ect. Couldn't these guys be gatekeepers that "flipped" on us?

Here are a few concerns I have with the trump presidency.

  • Trump was financially bailed out by Wilbur Ross, A Rothschild consigliere in 1990, after his failing Taj Mahal project.

When questioned why he helped him, Ross said; "the trump name is still very much a future asset for us"...

How is his Rothschild connection anti establishment in the slightest? Aren't the Rothschilds the evil English banking dynasty?

Also, trump made Ross a cabinet position. Why was this a good move?

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-wilbur-ross-commerce-20161208-story.html

  • After singing the harms of Wall Street and corrupt bankers, he makes several Goldman Sachs and wealthy billionaires his cabinet members. The point is, he lied to you, turned around, and "got the band back together" so to speak, appointing many of the former bush era cronies in positions of power. Why is this good for us ? Do you trust a Goldman Sachs cabinet? Explain.

https://www.thewealthadvisor.com/trump/goldman-sachs-hogging-trump-cabinet-appointments

  • Why did trump meet in private, and visited the home of known globalist Henry Kissinger? These first 3 alone are fucking incriminating as shit and, reveal to me, a very establishment friendly puppet. Can you explain this? Are you OK with this and why?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/16/donald-trump-to-meet-with-henry-kissinger-gops-foreign-policy-eminence-2/

  • Trump often discussed his plan to defeat the "terrorism boogeyman" in ISIS, and often cites his willingness to, as he put it, "bomb the shit out of them and take the oil". Why is he pushing the fake terrorism boogey man to accelerate more illegal war?

Also, why after claiming terrorism was bad, and that Saudi Arabia was a known funder of terrorism (and potential 9/11 involvement), why did he do a multi million dollar arms deal with Them?

https://youtu.be/aWejiXvd-P8

  • You would agree that the CIA is a globalist and evil intelligence agency, correct? Why Is trump saying that the CIA is "great" and "terrific"? Why did he say that he was behind them "1000%"?

https://youtu.be/T4Ej4wXR7cM

  • Why was his Bombing of Syria a strategic move for the betterment of US citizens? Was it not allowed to occur under false pretenses?

Also, after criticizing Obama's policies, how are the continued drone strikes helping make America great again?

  • Finally (I will be editing more, stay tuned), also after criticizing Obama and his waste of taxpayer money to fund vacations and golf trips, is trump already golfing almost every weekend and wasting over $400,000 dollars A DAY for security at the Trump Tower? How are these acceptable to you? Why are you willing them slide.

These questions should be very easy for you to explain, considering your die hard and obsessive support for him as the current POTUS. How do these moves, which many of us consider to be terrible overreaches of power and authoritarianism, benefit our country and help take down TPTB?

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-trump-golf-20170327-story.html

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party1981 ago

There is a strong case for Trump being corrupt. I wrote an entire post about it here.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2129581

My post was titled:

"Here, Let Me Crush the Last Hope You Had That Trump Will End Pizzagate Child Trafficking"

However, there are a lot of different clues that Trump will do something big with #pizzagate. Here are some of the clues I know about.

  1. Trump literally kicked Epstein out of Mar-A-Lago for inappropriate behavior.
  2. Trump told Sean Hannity that he expects Bill Clinton to have a "lot of problems" with Epstein's island.
  3. The first thing Trump did after swearing in Jeff Sessions was sign an executive order about human trafficking.
  4. Trump hired, and relied on, General Flynn during the campaign. Flynn and his son explicitly tweeted about #pizzagate.
  5. Trump relies on Blackwater CEO Erik Prince. Prince gave an explosive interview, covered by Breitbart, that vindicated #pizzagate and stated that the Weiner laptop includes child abuse content.
  6. Dan Bongino, former Secret Service agent and current political pundit, explicitly warned a HRC clerk "don't poke the bear," and "people know" about HRC and Epstein, because not all of the blackberries were destroyed. This fits with what Erik Prince said about Weiner's laptop revealing that HRC visited Epstein's island.
  7. The first comment on VOAT to one of my recent posts was by an anonymous user who confirmed that (1) military intelligence recruited Trump and (2) when Trump was propositioned by Epstein's operation with a child, he replied something like "she doesn't even have tits."
  8. FBIanon said that if Trump wins, he is confident that Trump will put HRC in jail. FBIanon predicted pizzagate four months in advance of Podesta's email and the "#pizzagate" trending on Twitter.
  9. Erik Prince's Blackwater mercenaries are, right now, torturing the Saudi princes arrested in Saudi Arabia. These are arguably the same princes who donated $40 million to the Clinton Foundation. According to the DailyMail, the current leader MBS is torturing them to learn about foreign officials who accepted bribes from Saudi princes, which sounds exactly like the CF donations, and fits with the description of HRC selling children to Saudi Arabia.
  10. Everyone from Sean Hannity to George Webb predicts that the Awan brothers scandal will explode open and embarrass the Democratic party, and it arguably leads back to some #pizzagate content on the data the Awans were transferring/stealing.

And so on. There are other reasons to suspect that Trump will do the right thing. Qanon on 4chan gained credibility with me when he predicted that Trump's twitter account would go down hours before it actually did.

But there are lots of other reasons to doubt Trump. He was friends with Jeff Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Roy Cohn, all associated with child trafficking and sex blackmail operations. His name is circled in Epstein's black book, indicating that he knew about the operation. He's friends with Lucky Larry Silverstein. For a comprehensive overview, read my article above about crushing hope in Trump.

My best guess is:

  1. 50/50 that Trump will do something really big and good
  2. If he does something good, he will probably try to pin Vegas, 9/11, and part of #pizzagate on the Saudi princes who were arrested and are being tortured by Blackwater. He will not say a single word about Israel, Mossad, Silverstein, neoconservatives, dancing Israelis on 9/11, the Yinon Plan, or the connection between Maxwell and Epstein to Mossad. You see this when Trump's children are all married to connected to Jews (for the most part), and when Trump shakes Netanyehu's hands with a big grin on his face, when Trump declares Jerusalem to be the capital of Israel, and when Trump stokes further tensions with Iran.