[Moderators: this post relates to #pizzagate because it describes a potential effort by Donald Trump to engage in a military coup to drain the swamp, including child trafficking and abuse.]
Yesterday, the alternative media exploded with reports about an anonymous 4chan poster's posts about Donald Trump.
Here is a thread on The_Donald about it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/7a508x/archive_of_the_latest_anon_post_claiming_podesta/
Here is a thread on r/conspiracy about it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7a3mjm/what_the_fuck_is_this_guy_talking_about/
Here is an archive of the original posts:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/uid/grTMpzrL/order/asc
I'm writing this post on v/pizzagate because (A) I think this new series of posts has a LOT of credibility and (B) it makes me more optimistic about Trump truly being the hero we needed.
First, I want to establish something important: not all 4chan insiders are LARP fakers. Sometimes, these insiders actually make predictions that turn out to be true.
A. The original FBIanon in July predicted that the Clinton Foundation was associated with child trafficking. This prediction was made four months before Podesta's emails were released and #pizzagate (this entire VOAT community) existed.
B. The same (or different) insider on 4chan predicted that the FBI would do something critical on Sunday, November 1, 2016.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5aqvr4/this_is_the_secret_of_the_fbi_tweets_this_is_what/
This prediction was precise down to the exact minute.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5ao7p1/looks_like_they_delivered_the_goods_right_on/
C. An anonymous insider warned people to stay away from Vegas three weeks in advance:
https://squawker. org/politics/4chanvegas/
D. White House Anon predicted something big would happen on July 27. That day Imran Awan was arrested and Congress called for an investigation into Clinton, Comey, and Lynch:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6q0leq/either_the_whanon_727_post_was_legit_or_we_just/
And so on. There are probably other examples.
Making valid predictions is probably the most powerful way for an "insider" to gain credibility. That's why I always ask George Webb to make specific predictions.
Now let's get back to this new alleged insider, who calls himself "Q Clearance Patriot" (I'll use "Q"). First of all, Q makes two big and bold predictions:
A. Tomorrow (November 3) Podesta will be indicted (doesn't specify John or Tony)
B. Sunday (November 5) Huma will be indicted
Just based on all of the fake predictions and "happenings" in the past, I find it emotionally difficult to actually believe that this will happen. But there are several things that make me cautiously optimistic about Q.
A. Q says that U.S. military intelligence recruited Trump. This is almost exactly what the FBI Twitter activity, on Oct. 30-Nov. 1, suggested, as analyzed in this famous thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5aqvr4/this_is_the_secret_of_the_fbi_tweets_this_is_what/
Specifically, after tweeting about Trump, the FBI then tweeted about deputizing new agents and left-behind sleeper agents in occupied territory.
I believe that Steve Pieczenik has said similar things about an intelligence counter-coup against Hillary.
B. Q'a overall theory (that Trump was recruited by military intelligence to stage a quiet coup to restore government integrity) fits with several things we know about the military.
First of all, the military has a very low rate of Jewish people. For some mysterious reason, Jewish people rose to disproportionate levels of power in finance, lobbying, Hollywood, and media, but not in the military. If you look at the picture of Trump with his military team ("calm before the storm"), you see virtually no Jewish people there. FBIanon, who is widely regarded as the most credible of the 4chan insiders, said that the deep state corruption has a heavy Jewish influence.
Second, Trump alluded to a "calm before the storm" at the same time as his military team meeting. The quiet coup is the perfect candidate for what Trump's cryptic phrase meant.
Third, Trump has appointed a high number of generals to his cabinet and other positions. General Flynn (who tweeted about pizzagate) comes from the military.
Fourth, I have personally written, repeatedly, that if Trump was really going to drain the swamp, he would need to engage in some kind of coup, such as marching the National Guard into CIA headquarters in Langley. Q explicitly refers to Trump's authority over the National Guard (and coordination with the marines).
Fifth, Q says that Trump was given assurances and protection, if he ran for President. This makes perfect sense as to why Trump always seems so cool, calm, and collected, for a man who is widely discussed as a target for assassination (see the new Snoop Dogg album cover. If the deep state corruption was so bad (JFK assassination and pizzagate bad), I wondered how Trump could be so calm and smug. Q gives one explanation. Look at the smug smile on Trump's face here, this is the face of a man who is given deep assurances and protection.
Trump's assurances and protection are also consistent with principle #2 from The Art of the Deal, "Protect the downside and the upside will take care of itself." Why spend dozens of millions of dollars, and put your family name and businesses through the mud and microscope, if there is a big chance that you won't win? Trump protected the downside by getting assurances and protection from U.S. military intelligence.
Sixth, there are speculative reports that there are two more sealed indictments from Mueller's investigation already docketed.
Seventh, Q says that Soros is targeted. This is consistent with a lot of other information. FBIanon said that Soros is the kingpin. Hannity has stated that Soros is the target of one of his tick-tock happenings.
Nevertheless, there are also reasons to doubt Q.
A. So many "happening" predictions have turned out fake before.
B. Q portrays Mueller as a Marine and hero. But Mueller covered up 9/11. The only way I could see Mueller being a hero is if he was blackmailed or controlled during the 9/11 years somehow. Notably, anonymous "insiders" have repeatedly reported that Mueller was pardoned by Trump. Still, the 9/11 test is a key test of credibility, and Mueller fails it.
C. Trump himself has wide ranging and suspicious connections to Roy Cohn, Larry Silverstein, Henry Kissinger, and other Wall St. people, which I go over here.
D. On the surface, it doesn't make sense that a true patriot, engaging in the most important military counter-coup in modern U.S. history, would leak it to the internet several days in advance. The potential downside is astronomical (compromising the counter-coup), and the potential upside (a little internet fame) is virtually nil.
E. For the life of me, I cannot understand why Trump would wait a full year after taking power. If you discovered that the deep state was involved in mass drug and child trafficking, treason, sex blackmail, false flag terrorism, and illegal spying (and who knows what else), why would you wait one day to expose it? On January 20th, Trump could have held a live television press conference. Perhaps the white hats needed a year to plan a counter-coup that wouldn't destabilize the country or start a war. But that's a long time to let evil go unchecked.
Nevertheless, something about Q rings credible to me (and to most of the other users on reddit commenting on Q's thread).
For the last few months, I have thought that Trump was simply selected by a different fraction of THE POWERS THAT BE, likely because Hillary Clinton was too reckless and risked exposing deep state operations. That would explain why Trump's campaign promises were so attractive (nationalism, America first, end the wars, end lobbying corruption), and yet he didn't really fulfill them. Q's thread makes me think that the fault line is drawn differently, between:
A. Trump, the FBI agents in control of the Twitter Records Vault Account, Wikileaks, the U.S. military, and U.S. military intelligence
B. everyone else in the permanent deep state corruption (Democrats, RINOs, CIA, FBI upper management, State Department, etc.)
I guess we will find out tomorrow what happens. Even if nothing happens, I suspect Q gave us some good information.
UPDATE: This is another excellent analysis, which fits with Q's story here. In this other analysis, the author argues that Trump has known all along about the multiple different attempts to compromise his Presidential campaign, because he got insider information from Michael Flynn:
https://tttthreads.com/thread/925850811090927616
UPDATE: POTUS Twitter went down for five minutes, consistent with Q's predictions:
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/7afpj4/geotus_twitter_goes_down_pol_freaks/
UPDATE: After the original series of posts yesterday, Q also started posting again today:
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/147647514#p147648286
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alphabravo ago
If it's true, it's started.
Just posted right now by Q -
Fellow Patriots, I'm being advised actions have created accelerated counter-actions. We have not yet ascertained the scope of the attack. Watch the news outlets. POTUS' Twitter take down was not by accident (as referenced several hours ago). Should the lights go out please know we are in control. Do not panic. We are prepared and assets are in place. God bless - I must go for good at this point. Q
http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/147675249#p147683156
party1981 ago
Let's get ready to rumble!
Tallest_Skil ago
It’s a LARP. It was proven wrong. It’s over.
unabashed_centrist ago
Maybe not.
https://imgoat.com/uploads/f61408e3af/55210.jpg
Tallest_Skil ago
Oh look! Yet another completely unverified and different IP address posted some more cryptic questions: half of which are already public knowledge and have been for years, the other half don’te have any answer (and he knows absolutely nothing classified, so he can’t even post what he is implying). I REALLY believe it now! Come the fuck on, man. The original faggot doesn’t even know how to use a tripcode. Anyone can post anything now. There won’t be martial law.
unabashed_centrist ago
This seems to make you angry. Like personally. Why?
Tallest_Skil ago
You were proven wrong. Go the fuck back to reddit and suck each others’ cocks.
unabashed_centrist ago
Your move, faggot. :)
Tallest_Skil ago
The question was answered. You’re a cocksucking paid shill.
Nothing is happening. Nothing was ever going to happen. A cuckchan LARPer who doesn’t even know how to use a tripcode is not one of ONLY TWENTY PEOPLE IN THE FUCKING WORLD with that level of security clearance. Someone that important is not posting on 4chan. Someone that important is not going to type cryptic bullshit that looks like it came from more than two people. Someone that important is, statistically, owned by jews, even if there are some patriots left up there. Out of 20 of the most powerful people in the entire fucking world, the redditors on 4chan expect one of them to not only be “#ourguy”, but to leak the proceedings of MARTIAL FUCKING LAW and–surprise surprise–the arrest of three quarters of the us government.
Why, that’s exactly what we would want! Happy day! All of our dreams are coming true, and we didn’t even have to put in an ounce of work ourselves! Hooray! It’s over! We’re saved! Don’t question it, just spend the entire day ignoring literally everything else that is ACTUALLY happening in the news, never mind your own campaign of “It’s okay to be white.” Because nothing ever came from YOU doing an honest day’s work!
Oh, and at no point does he mention jews. But no, go back to sucking his cock.
unabashed_centrist ago
Okay, so you're angry because you think that none of it is going to happen and you would like to see something - hell, anything - happen. I can understand that.
You could have just said that. All the caps and the fonts and the formatting make you look kind of...well, angry.
I don't know what a tripcode is either. The chans are public - anyone can go there and post. I doubt someone with alleged high level access to classified information is going to care what a bunch of pre-teens consider to be proper web etiquette.
I notice that you tend to call people you disagree with shills. Shilling implies someone is getting paid. You also like to accuse people of sucking cock. Only faggots and women suck cock, of which I certainly know I am neither. People are allowed to disagree with each other, and they can usually do it without these accusations.
I hate the jews at least as much as you do. Maybe more, since I just left a job that had one and he made us all miserable. Trump is fairly pro-jew, unfortunately.
This is pretty much the only part of your argument that I agree with. That's why my comment said "Maybe not" - of course it's a LARP. Unlike you, however, I like to entertain the possibility of something like this being plausible. Do YOU know what's actually going on right now? No. And neither do I. And neither does this person, probably. Probably.
I stand by my earlier posts - everyone (even you, tremendous asshole) need to stay safe and learn about their local laws surrounding home defense. Go to the store and buy some groceries that won't go bad if the power goes out today. And if nothing happens we'll be a little bit more ready for the next time (that, yes, nothing happens).
If you're tired of all of this, go out, get off of your computer and make something happen.
Tallest_Skil ago
No. I’m angry because people are either being paid–or are so fucking stupid–to say that something will happen. This is all fake. You’re spreading lies created FOR THE PURPOSE of demoralization.
At you, yes.
Lurk the fuck more, then.
So… zero evidence it’s real, yet you fellate it as though it is.
Then you get called “fake and gay” like everything else. And yet you think it’s real.
DING DING DING DING, and now you’ve proven it. Truth is not a matter of disagreement. I call no one with whom I disagree a shill. I call liars shills.
Nope, not at all.
Almost as though it’s an insult to you, the cocksucker who thinks LARPing is real, or something…
So stop sucking this LARPer’s cock. DEAL IN TRUTH OR FUCK OFF TO REDDIT.
No one cares about your feelings. You’re obviously seriously hurt by a simple insult. Cry some more.
I can guarantee otherwise, but I don’t want to disparage your own experiences with them. Anyway, that’s secondary to the point that the LARPer doesn’t even mention them.
Congrats; you fucking fell for it. That’s what they want you to do. They want you to waste your time even considering it and then be disappointed afterward. You post on pizzagate and you don’t even know what COINTELPRO is. Insane.
Yes.
lol
That’s on you.
Still sucking his cock.
Then go the fuck back to Reddit.
CRY. HARDER.
If you don’t know them by now, you deserve what happens.
Which it won’t, because it’s a LARP and we’re not going to waste our fucking ✡money✡ on the word of some retard on the Internet.
If only you knew how bad things really are.