Hey all, new to pizzagate and doing some investigating. First, i see a lot of posts on this topic are almost 10 months old, is this subject dead? Anyway, if you go to usa.gov and search for carisjames, the first result is king of strange:
Report Child Abuse and Neglect | cfsa
cfsa.dc.gov/service/report-child-abuse-and-neglect
Report Child Abuse and Neglect. CFSA takes reports of child abuse and neglect 24 hours a day, seven days a week at (202) 671-SAFE or (202) 671-7233.
3141592653 ago
I have no idea if any of this means anything.
Jem777 ago
Here is the truth about CARISJames...
https://twitter.com/RealRiteNow/status/891281049694720001
frankgrimes1776 ago
Ok, but where is the link between this and carisjames? I'm not getting it?
Blacksmith21 ago
Didn't it also come out that CARIS is the name of a database used at the NCMEC or some similar organization? It could explain why it popped up in the OP's search.
frankgrimes1776 ago
unaware of that, tried searching for CARIS related to database name but no luck.
Blacksmith21 ago
I'll have to do some digging as well. Nothing came up to the surface immediately. Maybe someone else will remember.
3141592653 ago
that makes sense. trying to figure out why CARIS would be used by these org's....
reasonedandinformed ago
We should never forget this poor little girl and keep investigating where she is and if she is okay: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1504555
There has been zero evidence that she is still alive and in good health.
pocketfulofstones ago
saved http://archive.is/gLhCn
frankgrimes1776 ago
Thanks! How did you do that?
joe_hill ago
Here are some facts : Alefantis is born in Hawai. And he have posted a lot of "pedo" pictures with the hashtag #carisjames
I had found that Caris James was the name of a girl abused by some people in an australian cult. It was also her blog's name : www.xanga.com/carisjames
The cult leader is chris butler, boss of "science of identity foundation "based in... Hawai ! The blog and the forum showed that Butler is/was a pedophile.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1514623
Strange coincidence isn't it ?
Vindicator ago
@frankgrimes1776: Welcome to v/pizzagate. :-) Please take a moment to check out our submission rules in the sidebar on the right -- we enforce them pretty rigorously due to constant trolling by shills spreading disinformation. Rule 2 requires all submissions to have at least one link to relevant supporting material. Could you edit the body of your submission to include that, please so we don't have to take it down?
I ran a quick search on searchvoat.co for "caris". Had to laugh -- the results show how effectively the shitposts have buried this information.
https://searchvoat.co/?t=caris&s=pizzagate&u=&d=&b=on&nsfw=off
You have to scroll all the way to almost the bottom of the first page before you hit any decent material. Another way to look for this is to click the "TOP" button at the top of the window, then click "all time". That will organize v/pizzagate content by the best, most highly upvoated articles since the beginning of the sub. You should be able to scroll through and find Caris James stuff.
The most relevant stuff uncovered was the identity of her parents (Cummings) and the fact they live in Oregon. Alefantis is her godfather.
Here is
frankgrimes1776 ago
Great thanks, I'll check out the submission rules and continue to mess around with the search function. As far as the link I didn't post, I've posted a few messages now so not even sure which one doesn't have a link, still trying to get a handle on how this all works. At this point, I guess I'll just not worry about that one without link, if it gets deleted, I'll consider that the cost of learning. Again, thanks for your help, this seems to be a great community with so many reaching out to help!
Vindicator ago
Voat is a rather convoluted platform that takes a while to get used to. One tip: click "parent" when you are viewing a Comment Reply or Submission Reply from your inbox. That will take you to the thread and let you see it in context.
Your link was in a comment you made in your post (the one this comment is being made in :-) ). Mods don't always have time to read all the comments so we require supporting links be in the body of the post. Also, comments get buried if there are very many of them.
frankgrimes1776 ago
I see what you mean about convoluted, i have on idea where I'm even replying to now :) But I'll check out your "Parent" tip, thanks!
3141592653 ago
How did you find out about this??
frankgrimes1776 ago
Like I said, I am new to voat and to pizzagate, but I'm having a very hard time trying to navigate this topic. I know I'm a new comer, but we really need to get some organizational procedure here if we want to make any kind of difference. Maybe that exists already and I just don't know what I'm doing, but if someone could fill me in I would greatly appreciate it.
PS - everyone involved in this open source investigation should take necessary means to protect yourself. I've decided to just use one device for this topic and to be on the safe side, I am using IVPN when doing anything related. Last night a very strange thing happened to my computer. I was just sending an email on the topic and all of the sudden my computer froze. CTRL+ALT+DEL had no affect, i was left completely helpless (was not using vpn at this point). All of the sudden, my camera light came on for at least 30 seconds. I could not move my mouse, keyboard, nothing. I even tried holding down the power button which should bypass everything and just shut my computer down, but that didn't work. After about 10 seconds of holding the button, the camera light went off and I regained control. Coincidence, maybe, but I've had this computer for almost 2 years and never had a freeze up. Plus I've been in IT for almost 30 years, never seen anything like it. Moral of story, be careful. Could be nothing, could be something, but I will er on the side of caution. Thanks.
weeds-in-the-garden ago
Most of our resources have been wiped from the web.
That was tried, it broke. v/pizzagate isn't even the place where most actual investigators post anymore. You have to find stuff all around the boards.
Not likely, unfortunately with all of the shit that has happened you'll have to gain trust. You know, normal opsec stuff.
VPNs are not as secure as you may think. They obfuscate your IP address, but the fact that you're using a middleman that can inject code is kind of stupid.
Use Linux. You should know it's better hardened then windows.
Hey you have a remote access trojan / remote administrator tool (rat). Looks like you already picked up a friend. http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/remote-access-tool/
Unplug the machine / battery dip shit.
I've been in IT for 7, this shit is normal.
Bit late for that.
Votescam ago
weeds --
I've noticed that ... sadly.
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micha_ ago
Discussions on voat vanish from the top, no matter how bigly they are discussed, and there is no way to bring them back up again, because of this incredibly stupid idea, to rank topics by the rate of new upvotes. No way that thoughtful and long discussions draw the attention they need.
Votescam ago
micha --
I know I fail to get back to articles or to find them ....
weeds-in-the-garden ago
between the spam and spam killing (which probably took out good content, at least bruised egos) a lot of people stopped posting here.
Votescam ago
Are they at more secure places? I've been invited to a website preparing for time of more censorship, actually. Have they changed the hash tags?
weeds-in-the-garden ago
??? - I haven't been serious about this stuff for some time. Try the page, don't reveal too much, see if they're serious.
Votescam ago
We're both being cryptic -- What I tried to say was are they still working under "Pizzagate" banner or is there a new title for the investigations?
weeds-in-the-garden ago
Many people have dropped the banner, and are just hunting pedophiles. There are some who are using the pizzagate hash tag.
Votescam ago
OK ... then I may be able to track them. And I will also look at Reddit where I presume there is still a lot of posting on this subject. thank you!
frankgrimes1776 ago
Wow, understood and appreciate you taking the time to reply. But now I'm not sure what to do in regards to my anonymity since I've apparently compromised myself. Guess I'll have to do some thinking on it. Is there any kind of "Voat Best Practices" guide for those who want to get involved as far as self protection? Thanks.
Dressage2 ago
Voat Best Practices Guide is the mods just delete your shit and you are SOL. That is why most of the serious researchers have left. Have a nice day and thanks for stopping by.
frankgrimes1776 ago
any idea where they have gone?
Dressage2 ago
No, I do not.
weeds-in-the-garden ago
I haven't seen a thread like that for over 7 months. My personal best practice is to disable the microphone and camera at the bios, add a bit of duct tape over the camera if it's a laptop.
Disable geolocation
https://techlogon.com/2013/04/23/how-to-disable-geolocation-in-ie-chrome-or-firefox/
Get used to checking domain names before clicking on links. (example https://voat.co/v/AskVoat/2101425/10360270/10#10360270))
Make sure you don't download anything with macros that can hurt your system (generally avoid .doc/.docx and other microsoft shit) from unknown sources.
Run AV on a regular basis, along with spybot etc.
I'd seriously advice if you're on windows to use https://www.sandboxie.com/ (I pirated an old version of this when on windows, it's beautiful).
If you need to obfuscate your IP address TOR is a better option then VPN (depending on usage). But you should have a look at this, I don't really trust middle systems that much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QT4YJn7oVI
Seriously, I wouldn't worry about being doxxed once or twice unless you have a huge footprint on the web.
frankgrimes1776 ago
I am very careful as far as downloading things and emails. I've never got a virus in all my years. I use a paid vpn service which is costing me $100 a year so I would assume they are pretty good. Thanks for the advice, will look into all of it.
Devious1 ago
RIP carisjames
3141592653 ago
??
Devious1 ago
¥€$ ?
3141592653 ago
You think she's dead?
Devious1 ago
Pretty sure she is kill
Devious1 ago
Yes, to many suspicious findings when investigating way back when. Parents moved away, no more posts of caris after they left etc...
frankgrimes1776 ago
Sorry, I'm new to voat, not sure what I'm doing here. But here is what you get if you click the first search result:
https://cfsa.dc.gov/service/report-child-abuse-and-neglect
Appreciate you adding reason, thanks. Can you point me to where the latest discussions on the subject may be? I tried searching for pizzagate but the search results page is a bit confusing. Is this still a hot topic on voat? I'm just learning and would like to help. Thanks again.
Votescam ago
Think it will always be a hot topic here.
Alefantis seemed to be very close to and very involved with Carisjames, who would be a good bit older now, but as I recall the last effort to locate her, there was a lot of interest by posters here but I don't think it turned up anything new as far as even confirming that she is still alive.
frankgrimes1776 ago
I personally don't think carisjames is an actual person. Wasn't that hash tag used in posts with multiple different people? Maybe I'm mistaken. Anyway, I think there is some other meaning that may never be known.
3141592653 ago
I'm starting to think Caris James is not a real name. That the girl is real, but that this is not her real name. Especially since her supposed last name is JA's first name. ALSO, I just found out the name Caris goes back to greek mythology, and we know JA is into greek mythology as his profile pic was of that young greek god.... can't remember the name... Antoninus or something...
3141592653 ago
actually isn't her last name actually Cummings?
3141592653 ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1580224
is scott her father? is this the same guy who makes the little coffins? or is this already known that this is her father?
and the guy who makes the little coffins... is this where Voodoo donuts gets its little coffins????? Voodooo donuts is in Portland... and some threads say that's where caris lives.
and then of course voodoo donuts has the pedo swirl as its logo...
UnicornAndSparkles ago
I think it looks like the same child but different ages in the pictures.
carmencita ago
CARIS was also an acronym for something to do with the Coloboma eye, I think. I cannot remember the exact words.
Votescam ago
carisjames, as far as I know, was an actual living child. In fact, as I recall it -- and maybe others here have better memories -- but James Alefantis took on with him on a trip to Europe as a young baby, not even yet a toddler. The Mother at one time worked at Comet Pizza for Alefantis. She then married the guy you see in the picture holding a baby believed to be an older carisjames with the hash tags suggesting she is carisjames and one of the comments is ... "Chicken Lover." The husbands/family name is Cummings -- they live in Oregon --and oddly enough he makes coffins which seem to be child sized. They have a least one other child. There is also at least one or two other pictures of carisjames which create concern ... One is a picture of her where she has the "panda eyes" of an abused child deprived of sleep. Another is one of her wearing an overlarge T-shirt which says ... "Pizza Slut"?
Again -- if anyone here has better memory of this, please correct or add on.
3141592653 ago
WAIT A MINUTE, HAS THIS EVER BEEN LINKED TO THE FACT THAT VOODOO DONUTS SUPPLIES THEIR BULK ORDERS IN MINI COFFINS.... AND VOODOOO DONUTS IS ALSO IN PORTLAND?!?!! sorry to be screaming, can't help it.
Votescam ago
That would be a rather innocent use of the coffins, wouldn't it?
Don't know much about Voodoo Donuts, but have seen suspicions of their involvement in child abuse/trafficking.
3141592653 ago
Check out their logo!!!
UnicornAndSparkles ago
There is also the picture of her drinking chocolate milk with the side of the carton saying something. And in the shooing basket holding an orange.
For how rich they are carisjames always looked disheveled with a home home haircut and very badly dressed.
Votescam ago
Unicorn -- Yes, the chocolate milk pic was suspicious -- think the comment was something like "secret recipe"? It was totally visible and readable in the original pic. This one seems a bit blurry.
The shopping basket pic is very sad. She looks exhausted and uncared for.
Earlier pictures showed her to be well cared for -- nicely clothed.
Then pictures of her became more depressing.
Some have suggested that she may be Alefantis' daughter -- he is at least godfather, if I recall correctly.
There are pictures of the parents you will find under names of Cummings and Woolman.
carmencita ago
You should include a link for that message. It might get deleted. I hope you do not mind I included a reason your post is related to pizzagate.
SoldierofLight ago
Interesting. It's not even listed in the page's source code. Well, they say there are no coincidences.
This will probably get deleted but if if that happens, post this in pizzagatewhatever.
frankgrimes1776 ago
Thanks SoldierofLight, so is pizzagatewhatever the place to be? Sorry asked my other question without seeing your comment first.
SoldierofLight ago
It's more appropriate for posts that are relevant to pizzagate but don't necessarily meet all the rule requirements.
frankgrimes1776 ago
got it, thanks.
carmencita ago
This refers to pizzagate because carisjames was featured on James Alfantis's Instagram Page which featured a child taped to the floor plus poor carisjames held in the arms of Alfantis, who owns Comet Ping Pong and was featured in the Podesta emails. That should be enough.
UnicornAndSparkles ago
Lots of archives of CarisJames pictures thanks to a link from @VieBleu 10 months ago!!
https://web.archive.org/web/20161122083118/https://m.reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments/5da0kp/comet_ping_pong_pizzagate_summary/
@votescam @frankgrimes1776
Votescam ago
Unicorn -- Thank you .... Was reviewing some of the pics as familiar with many ... the 6th down - baby with pizza -- isn't identified as carisjames, but believe it is. the 9th down - identified as "Toddler boy" also appears to be carisjames and under "interested" her alleged parents -- Cummings and Woolman.
After that, the links would no longer work.
carmencita ago
Are these loading for you. I get none of them. I could never figure out if the child was a girl he wanted to turn into a boy or a boy he wanted to turn into a girl. I always felt that way because he is demented.
UnicornAndSparkles ago
Also .. have you noted VieBleu (an excellent contributors) last comments.
carmencita ago
I forgot to mention that I have heard from Wisconsin. Not to worry.
UnicornAndSparkles ago
The CarisJames pics are on the archive website and I can see them yes. I completely agree about the gender thing. They are toys to them. Beyond heartbreaking.
carmencita ago
I often wondered if he kept caris for himself to change later or was waiting to sell the poor child off after changing him/her to the buyer's specifications. O God. I cannot believe I had to type those words. This is Beyond Sorrowful.
Piscina ago
I still wonder what happened to that little girl. I hope she's safe.