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Criticalthinker615 ago

also, the tattoo on the backside of his hand appears to me to match the symbol on this post of a "book" written by Aleister Crowley and posted from within Chateau Marmont by someone with the username cassmaster2000

http://i.imgur.com/tgUpQqD.jpg

carmencita ago

argosciv ago

At the risk of copping a downvoat flogging, I'm gonna go ahead and say that this interview is not what it seems.

READ BETWEEN THE LINES, THERE'S A REASON THAT MANSON HAS BEEN STRANGELY HURT (MULTIPLE TIMES) SINCE THIS INTERVIEW!

cantsleepawink ago

Lots of messages in that 3:30 min video. He even mentioned LEE HARVEY Oswald- I was thinking about doing a post on him..there's your LEE and your HARVEY. Can't figure out the Oswald bit as it relates to today.

argosciv ago

Goddamnit!!!

I hadn't even considered LEE HARVEY Oswald!

Mafia back on the scene?

cantsleepawink ago

We were discussing this one or two days before the shooting https://twitter.com/RexTilllerson/status/915284871408361472

argosciv ago

Just putting this one out in the ring as a possibility...

List of secondary and special-issue World War II infantry weapons - Prototype Weapons

Norway

  • Eriksen M/25 machine gun

Poland

  • Mors submachine gun

United States

  • M2 Hyde submachine gun

Japan

  • Type 5 Rifle

Wasn't japan forced to effectively dismantle it's military post-ww2? That aside, NK's launch in japan's direction??

Type 4(Redirected from "Type 5")

Cartridge: [7.7×58mm Arisaka]

Action: Gas-operated, rotating bolt

Muzzle velocity: 840 m/s (2,800 ft/s)

Feed system: 10-round internal box magazine loaded via two 5-round stripper clips

Fits the bill perfectly and explains the rapid follow up from/between the first 1 or 2 hits that JFK took, to the final kill shot after the shooter had ranged their (his/her) target properly.

History

During the Second World War, Japanese soldiers relied on bolt-action type rifles. However, guns were getting scarce and their main military rival, the United States, had replaced their bolt weapons with modern repeating rifles. At the same time Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were also developing their own prototypes which would give them great advantage on the battlefield. This pressured Japan to find a quick way to cope with their military disadvantage. Instead of designing and investing in a new weapon from scratch, they opted to copy the American M1 Garand. Initially, the Japanese experimented with re-chambering captured American M1 rifles, since the 7.7 Japanese cartridge is dimensionally similar to the .30-06. They found that while the Garand could chamber, fire, and cycle with the 7.7 ammunition, the en-bloc clip system was incompatible with the cartridge and would not feed reliably. Instead the Japanese designers reverse engineered the M1 and discarded the en-bloc clip, replacing it with a fixed internal 10 round magazine charged by two 5 round Arisaka Type 99 stripper clips.[2]

Japan had previously developed semi-automatic service rifles, but none of them has been viewed as successful or of trustworthy quality. The design work for the Type 4 began in 1944. The rifle was meant to be mass-produced in 1945. However, the Japanese defeat in the war in August halted its manufacturing. At the time, only 100 guns were completed out of the 250 in the workshop. Twenty of them were taken by the Allies at the Yokosuka Naval Arsenal on Honshu after the end of the war.

Today, the Japanese Garand is a rarity. An example of this rifle can be found in the US National Firearms Museum, in the World War II section.

Variants

According to the Japanese version of this article there was a Navy variant and an Army variant, the differences are not listed.

In popular culture

It appears in the Battlefield video game franchise as the "Type 5". It is featured in Battlefield 1942, Battlefield 1943 and briefly in Battlefield Bad Company 2.

Variants: I bet one was perfectly capable of accepting a suppressor...

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cantsleepawink ago

OMG you're a genius.

Poland

Mors submachine gun

I was looking at something this morning feeling there was a connection but no idea how:

MORE by the Sisters of Mercy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BURM7l6_pvg

From the lyrics: http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/3458764513820553238

"Learning to cry for fun and profit

I'm not done yet

Counterfeit dollars or the English zloty

Anything I can get"

From the comments:

If memory serves me right, fake zlotys were produced by some arm of the British government during the second world war. Probably some kind of attempt to destabilise the Nazi occupation in Poland. Goes with the "counterfeit dollar" part, certainly.

Andrew Eldritch (the lead singer) describes himself as a political animal.

argosciv ago

I still have to pick up the mgm mic xD

cantsleepawink ago

Cocky bastard :)

argosciv ago

hahah, eat me, dickface xD

argosciv ago

@Vindicator @Wolftrail7272 @VictorSteinerDavion @jangles @PuttItOut - see parent: POSSIBLE lead on weapon (and true vantage point) used to kill JFK.

argosciv ago

hah! wait a minute... what building in that photo that Manson points to the top floor of? Where is that? Is there anything similar in appearance along the motorcade route, which would provide ample vantage point for the kill-shot on jfk?

If that was a .30 cal round, it makes plenty of sense for JFK's head to pop, if the shot was from a higher vantage point(BUT NOT LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S ALLEGED VANTAGE POINT!)

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Jem777 ago

There were multiple shooters or snipers...Possibly eight. Why did the interview with a young CIA agent named George Bush admitting he was in Dallas get hidden. It is in writing. When found why did the CIA state this was a different George Bush....really are we that stupid.

What part of Operation Paperclip was George Bush from? What is his actual real identity?

argosciv ago

I sincerely posit that only one person was shooting at JFK.

The rest were planted decoys, Lee Harvey Oswald included, intended to create a never-ending conspiracy theory - meanwhile, the true shooter was elsewhere, using a suppressed ".30 cal" rifle.

Look where they don't want you to!

Jem777 ago

In this document there is the original interview of a CIA George Bush. Scroll down to read the document. It is in handwriting naming George Bush. His father Prescott was one of the masterminds with LBJ.

Multiple shooters Oswald was a patsy not the shooter. There were numerous bullet entry's on vehicles and people. JFK was first shot through the threat entry from the front. Several other shots were fired before the final head wound. The autopsy was not even real. Kennedy was shot with CIA weapon with poison in the round.

His body and brain were switched. There are two caskets involved this is documented.

JFK jr knew who was responsible and stated he would avenge his fathers death by naming who was responsible. He then created a magazine and named it GEORGE....he would not answer to why he chose that name.

He then ran for Senator of New York and HRC entered the race against him eventhough she was exiting the Whitehouse as First Lady and had no residence in New York to qualify her to run.

JFK jr was the sure winner but SHOCKINGLY his airplane crashed killing him and the only two confidantes he had. Just in the nick of time for Hillary Clinton to win the Senate race.

http://jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm

argosciv ago

Multiple shooters Oswald was a patsy not the shooter. There were numerous bullet entry's on vehicles and people.

Some of the decoys, Oswald included, may have been shooting at the crowd - I will concede that.

There were numerous bullet entry's on vehicles and people. JFK was first shot through the threat entry from the front. Several other shots were fired before the final head wound.

The rifle(and it's accompanying ammunition) I suspect of being used, would easily cause collateral damage when hitting soft targets or otherwise fragment/ricochet if striking a reinforced solid object at an awkward angle.

The autopsy was not even real. Kennedy was shot with CIA weapon with poison in the round.

This does not refute my theory(CIA would have access to seized Japanese Type 4 rifles, 20 from a naval base - see naval variant), though, without a real autopsy, "poison" is merely conjecture and irrelevant, considering a clear killshot was landed.

Jem777 ago

Not arguing. I agree the poison was in case the killshot was not successful. If an actual uncompromised Medical Examiner had dissected his brain it would have shown not only information about the round but the poison in the brain has an immediate and obvious presence. In autopsies the brain would have been totally deconstructed with pathology slices removed.

There had to be a second brain with a clean gun shot wound mimicking the entry of JFK. Therefore two caskets two bodies an unknown shot and killed and the bodies and brains switched.

This is in the JFK files if they are ever released. The identity of the other body in the second casket is known.

argosciv ago

If an actual uncompromised Medical Examiner had dissected his brain it would have shown not only information about the round but the poison in the brain has an immediate and obvious presence. In autopsies the brain would have been totally deconstructed with pathology slices removed.

Forgive me for this one, but...

"If your Aunt was your Uncle, she'd be named Bob"(Aussie slang for "too bloody true") (I'll elaborate if need be, in an upcoming submission, might be too big to put here at this time...)

Gothamgirl ago

And he says Oswald, and high velocity to in that interview.

argosciv ago

High velocity, heavy round - my money is on .30 - .45, suppressor possibly to slow it down enough for more arch; more splat...