Before responding, take a moment to learn the history of the PG subverse here.
Once you've done that, understand that giving mods the ability to moderate based on their knowledge of the narrative invites mods that will steer the narrative using their mod tools.
You'll get mods that allow this:
The Rule 1 problem is the biggest problem in the subverse in my opinion. Tons of quality material like children being given hormone blockers at age 3, Planned Parenthood misleading children to believe that a person is not male/female at birth using the word "gender", organ harvesting, etc...
... and delete real PG leads.
The original idea of this subverse was to have a running ARCHIVE of everything, because no other place seemed to be safe to do so. Posts being constant links and re-links to known solid direct connections to PG with a new connection highlighted for others to look at and follow. After a while, parts of that should have gone into this sticky, and would be considered more or less canon for future leads.
The original idea of the RULES of this subverse was to keep everything in a very structured and easily-parsed format, allowing the mods to simply clean up the stuff that wasn't formatted properly, and didn't pass the direct-link muster. This would prevent the mods from pushing their own narrative, and allow them to keep the place clean enough so that both the new and the veteran could pick up the torch with relative ease.
Now to the discussion of the rule, and the possible changing of this entire subverse.
If you want a modification of any part of rule 1, state clearly the exact part(s) and justify your position.
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crazycycle ago
@Crensch
Rule 1 isn't the real issue. I'm sure it could use some improvement, but the real issue is the inconsistent manner in which the rules are applied by the mods. You can argue it's the wording/interpretation, but it seems to me, that most of the sub thinks it's @Millennial_Falcon.
You have a Mother_Fucker problem, not a rules problem.
Crensch ago
OK, 10-day-old-alt, do what literally none of you PG faggots has done to date and provide links proving this.
Sick of your unsupported accusations, quite frankly. The more they happen, the less likely I am to be pleasant when responding.
I am HAPPY to dig through actual proof of wrongdoing. I am NOT HAPPY to have my time wasted by ignorant fucks like you that don't realize your 10-day-old-alt looks like a fucking shill.
crazycycle ago
As if you dont fucking know what the entire sub is complaining about.
Crensch ago
Yeah, I hear what appears to be shills complaining about a non-existent problem. Not one of you fucks has come up with anything at all yet, and THE MORE YOU MAKE BALD ASSERTIONS THE MORE I THINK YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT.
So stop acting like you're on rEddit and act like you're in the real world where people need evidence in order to believe something.
MOD LOGS EXIST FOR A REASON, you lazy fucking nigger.
crazycycle ago
Faggot, why do you pretend your lazy ass doesn't have access to the logs, yourself? Your ass wants the research to keep getting wider and go in circles. The only fucking new leads that are relevant to bringing down pizzagate, in its entirety, are leads that deal with the original characters (Podestas, Alefantis, Abramovic, Foundation donors, etc). The high-end consumers. The ones with the power to censor the internet. The ones that decide who and how hard to prosecute and how wide the investigation should be. The ones that were already in the WH. Then you follow the money. Every pedo ring is compartmentalized. Going after the smaller rings is not going to create a chain reaction. The investigations will not expand, because they control them. Anyone with half a brain could figure that out. Your stupid ass wants to protect mother_fucker cause you are a motherfucker.
Yea, keep talking about the verbiage of the rules, cause that's really fruitful.
Crensch ago
It's not MY job to prove each of you shill-looking faggots right; that's YOUR job.
The fuck I do. I've always been on the side of requiring a fucking connect-the-dots outside of the original definition on the right. You're just showing yourself to be a butthurt shill that doesn't know what's actually going on here.
WHY DO YOU BITCH ABOUT MF THEN? I literally only ever see whining about removals that have nothing to do with those things. Oh, and formatting/posting issues where it's obviously against the rules.
Been on this boat since the beginning. So has MF, IMO.
More or less how I've thought things through.
You're making zero sense now, faggot. If something about those specific subjects was posted properly, MF would not have removed it - IF HE DID, and nobody pinged me over it, then that's THEIR fault.
I'm not going to parse every fucking post or removal just because people whine about a mod. SHOW ME WHERE THINGS WENT WRONG. That's your job, faggot.
... You're posting in a thread about changing the rules to what you don't want and instead of attacking the ones for the change, you're advocating for the status quo.
Really just cannot understand you at all.
crazycycle ago
Maybe his actual standard varies from way too narrow/tough to too wide/loose? Hey, I;m new and this is your space. If half of the users are complaining about one fucking mod, shouldn't YOU do the double take. This subject is too fucking much. I'll show myself out.
Crensch ago
Maybe. Haven't seen evidence of it yet though.
No, this is PG's space, and I'm just here to keep the rEddit cancer out.
Through the ENTIRE life of this subverse, mods have been attacked, and shills have tried to get a foothold.
I'm NOT going to do a shill's work for them either. They can present a valid case, or they can fuck off.
Honestly, if they're legitimate users (not shills) and cannot manage to present a valid case, then they're probably useless anyway.
Age quod agis.
crazycycle ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2139159
This is an example of wtf everyone is complaining about. I post something you say you and MF are both in agreement with, yet it gets deleted for not having a source/link (rules!). Give me an example of an appropriate/relevant source/link for that post.
EDIT: The post is an opinion formed from information that is common knowledge to any honest person researching/investigating pizzagate. It shouldn't require any sourcing, at this point.
EDIT2: @Crensch @kevdud @Millennial_Falcon @Vindicator @sensitive
Crensch ago
That submission should be a comment in this thread with pings to me, kevdude, and the [m] mods here.