Voat Admin @tanukihat doesn't like me exposing pedos, /v/pedos wiped (pizzagate)

submitted ago by karenrussell63

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Related to pizzagate because of pedo site TM4B leaked members being posted on /v/pedos

There are 2 threads about it here on /v/pizzagate and they didn't violate voat's rules on doxxing, as the pedos are not members of voat. @tanukihat why don't you come here and let me know what rules I broke. Or do you just support the normalization of pedophilia?

equineluvr ago

Quote from a mod (Crensch) in the STICKY THREAD at the top of the page -

YOU PG FAGGOTS ARE HATED BY MOST OF VOAT and the only thing keeping you here is me and @kevdude. Once putt puts into place his "users decide on mods" stuff and me and VSD get removed, this place is going to get destroyed by the other goats. There will be no more PG on here - not this subverse, or any other.

LulzSec887 ago

I was telling this and no one was listening this two @karenrussell63 @Welcome_fags where blackmail everyone and asking them 4000$ to remove them from /v/pedos and https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2072643

I already have published this information https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods/2088267

Now what we have got site which giving possibility after stupid reddit can be target also because this two want to get rich using voat and no one was listening me!

@karenrussell63 @Welcome_fags Your happy right ruin everything go ahead!

@Vindicator also was protecting karenrussell63

Welcome_fags ago

LMAO, you now finally accept that I'm not KJ63? took you almost 3 days.

I have informed you on multiple occasions that you cannot bribe me. You don't even understand, that even when an Admin stepped in and delete the threads, you will still find it on google when you search for it. So explain to me how that would work? dumb nigger.

Gas yourself pedophile.

LulzSec887 ago

No I have not accepted anything you dumb extortionist!

Now you use company which is more then anything in this world connected to shit against what you say your fighting!@

I don't care will it be on google or not and almost anyone here, you again using this to scare people LOL, on google it's also possible deletion LOL Why we use VOAT ? we can just use google microsoft or other fbi connected companies LOL

Do you see now ? I was right right ? How it feels ? hay cry now as loud as possible and use google to get money

DON"T USE THIS FORUM you stupid dumb ass!

and you will pay lot for calling me pedophile just because I exposed your dumb plan I'm not pedophile!, I was thinking to stop but I will make sure to expose you fully, what your doing, who is your victims!

Welcome_fags ago

Please stop cyber bullying me, im sad now :(

www.stopbullying.gov

heygeorge ago

Don't dox on Voat, asshole, you'll ruin it for everyone. You don't know what's up with Voat, as evidenced by this post.

AvariciousNose ago

idk the situation well but the rule about doxxing voat users is kind of stupid if theyre posting fucking kids in bikinis.

Welcome_fags ago

No voat users were doxxed.

This was about people specifically not from Voat. Although a couple of them probably came here after the fact and tried to defend their sick shit. And they were trading in CP, not maybe/maybe-not CP. it was sexually exploited children for PROFIT no less..

LostandFound ago

Do you have any PM's from admins etc. The deletions are worrying but nothing here links this back to that user who is not an admin.

edit: looking at the sub /v/pedos he clearly got a laugh out of the data being scrubbed he is involved on some level. Sad day when I feel the need to archive a voat page but here ta go http://archive.is/KzunT

Welcome_fags ago

AFAIK, no communication, no warnings, to me or modmail, they just nuked it. Maybe admins contacted KJ63, I don't know.

The funny thing is.. none of my comments have been deleted, so they did a sloppy job and the info deleted exist elsewhere on Voat too.

I think the reason KJ63 thinks tanukihat have a finger in it, is because he have shown to be very much against what we were doing. But i have a long list of people who could've spammed the admins, tanukihat is the only "legit-voat-user"(user-account older than the leak) that I've encountered that had a problem with our operation though.

LostandFound ago

Have you guys pinged putt ? also this needs to be reposted in protectvoat this is the most overt attack I have seen to date. Post there to get the traction and non PG crowd to get involved this is pretty harsh by any standard.

Welcome_fags ago

I will have to follow up on some stuff before I'd even consider involving protectvoat. There have already been a few threads about KJ63's alleged(wink) actions. I don't wanna exhaust the limited support we had, when we begun by making it a daily occurrence.

Regarding putt, I can only assume that he or atko nuked us.

LostandFound ago

Ah yes I found the unblasted comments and I see where the issue has crept in here, its an awful loophole. Can you host the data externally i.e. on a chan and post archived links. Where is the line on this one? And yes agree on the assessment that it was a superadmin that wiped you.

Welcome_fags ago

Our operation will run smoothly, whether or not we are welcome to do so here, this won't effect us one bit.

This sets a bad precedent however. You are now at risk if you post uncensored screenshots of profiles from facebook for example. I could imagine fatpeoplehate would hate to realize this. Or when the dox of that bike-lock-wielding-cunt was posted. Or can i be a jerk a suggest only doxx pertaining to pedophiles aren't allowed because it might incentivize some people seeking them out IRL? I personally chose not to post addresses/phone numbers of people even if i obtained them specifically because I don't wanna be responsible for some jackass that went of the rails. Just enough information so it was clear to even the layman, who it was, namely because there is plenty of people with same names.

I have no idea. I understand that the site owners can do whatever they want and they don't have to be consistent in their rulings or respect precedents, its their site - period.

Its a shame, i've enjoyed this site an absolutely metric ton and its too early to call. In any event I sincerely hope everything is AOK at the admins end. and that they are able to update the Canary and continue their work. I would feel incredible bad if we directly caused them to not being able to.

LostandFound ago

The issue for admins I see here is that one of the people in question ( perhaps more i have no idea your posts are gone ) relates to a voat member, the only rule broken here afaik is that one. Perhaps if we were able to have an open discussion with powers that be, as to which extent they wish to enforce this ruling i.e. if hosted on 3rd party site and linked is that also not allowed etc. You should get a post going on 8ch or some of the other chans that are ok with dox threads, been banned multiple times from 4 for dox related activities, got over one week for bumping the antifa dox ... so that's no longer possible.

Welcome_fags ago

All people would have to do to remove their dox would create an account and claim they are that person in the dox - POOF. Suddenly they are now a voat-user and we can be purged! i guess that is an unfortunate weapon the community need to realize can be used against them. (Do i get a badge for figuring that out? :D)

Edit:Thats what happened in Chad's case That is what i speculate happened. We know that he created an account here after his dox were posted - whether he contacted an admin or not - i can only speculate. That guy is fucked big time btw. FBI and DEA have been involved as i found out he essentially could be brought up on charges of trafficking controlled substances not only over statelines but the american border as well. The pedo charges is the least of his worries, although im sure his work doesn't appreciate his degeneracy. LMAO.

As i said, nothing changes for us.

LostandFound ago

Decentralization is our best weapon, voat has its flaws this being one of the major ones. We tried to challenge the pedo groups here when PG first migrated with no success, but as you say there's a glaring loophole on this platform that few are willing to admit. Spread the seeds far and wide, also if on twitter hit up 0hour1 and eclipse_ow <- both have accounts that are nuked on a daily basis so can be tricky to find them at times, but eclipse_ow broke the 20k twittergate pedo accounts working with 0hour so they take genuine cases very seriously and have other resources.

Welcome_fags ago

Thanks brother.

@KarrenRussell63, might be an avenue worth exploring.

karenrussell63 ago

no one posted on /v/pedos claiming to be the doxxed pedo. Admins had 0 reason to believe that any of the threads on /v/pedos belonged to any voat members, and if a pedo member did join voat and message an admin, that doesnt give reason to remove all posts on /v/pedos

I'm still waiting for @puttitout to tell me which rule I broke.

LostandFound ago

Playing devils advocate here but by your own admission you have doxxed a voat member https://voat.co/v/pedos/2087456 @Welcome_Fags Agree its a total loophole but the question needs to be shifted from what did we do, to how do we do this better in compliance with voat rules. Theres CP here , groups for opium/heroine dealers etc. where there is a will there is a way just find the middle ground.

Welcome_fags ago

I love devils advocates, its a great exercise. Give it all you can imagine!

Sure, you might argue that I broke the site-wide rule - but explain why my comment wasn't purged, but all of KJ63 entire posts were purged. None of his threads contained information outside of what you can see elsewhere on Voat. So he never broke any Voat rules.

I was the one listing his voat account. An account that he created after he was already doxxed somewhere else on voat with full name, username and email and some other information allowing me to tie him to those accounts, and then later work, addresses, family members, some of his illicit activities outside of CP. He was the only one i was 100% able to tie to a Voat account because he used the exact account name here as he did on the pedo-site.

So why is Karenrussell63 the only one targeted?

How long can we stretch this rule?

Lets for a moment say that I create the Voat user "Eric_Clanton" could i get the Voat admins to remove all mentions connecting him to the "bike-lock-smasher"?

Edit: changed the order of paragraphs, nothing else was changed.

LostandFound ago

I had a deeper look into the voat rules and completely BTFO'd myself - I never seen this before and didn't know it existed and makes the why matter both clearer in your/karen's case and less clear for others. If the sub in questions is being used as part of a blackmail / extortion scheme then the following applies

Will you censor comments and submissions?

While we don't necessarily approve or agree with all content that users submit to Voat, our policy is to not meddle and not censor content unless said content is illegal in the United States.

But this does not answer the question as to why there is CP here .....

Welcome_fags ago

Ok, I realize that we are both people sitting behind our computers, we have no real way of verifying what is the truth or not. I really appreciate us having this discussion. I want you to believe this post, because everything I say in this reply, would be something i can say under oath without committing perjury. (Courts can use this as evidence.)

Anyway, here we go!

If the sub in questions is being used as part of a blackmail / extortion scheme.

The subverse is NOT used for blackmail and extortion. I cannot and will not under NO fucking circumstances allow ANYONE to connect me to any such schemes. (Even if you are playing the devil's advocate.)

I have been accused of being an alt-account before and I've tried to explain to no avail that I am not. This is my only account and I will under no circumstances create a new one. If admins wants to show me the door, I would not pester them with my presence even if I had the means to do so.

I have never sent an email to any of the leaked addresses. I don't care for what they would have to say at all. The only person that I have actually talked with, that is 100% one of the exposed pedophiles is; hmm lets call him Chad ;)

You can see the conversation here (His comments is within the red squares. He anonymized his thread after he realized nobody gave a shit about him.)

The subverse was meant for one thing and one thing only: A collection of exposed pedos and clarification of exactly who they are. This way people with common names living in the same area, would not gonna have their life obliterated for something they did not do.

Blackmail/extortion only works if you withhold information, once it goes out; it is cached and store by multiple of services. If i was an extortionist, why would I give up leverage at any point? (I consider myself at least average in intelligence, so if i was blackmailing you and you weren't gonna pay me the initial sum, I would lower the amount incrementally until you paid.)

I'm no expert in American law, but doxxing is not illegal under any US law or statutes, so I cannot see how that rule would be relevant.

But this does not answer the question as to why there is CP here .....

I mentioned earlier that the site owners have no obligation to be consistent in their judgements.

Wew, at least im prepared for a future deposition if Voat and my VPNs is ever successfully subpoenaed. :D

LostandFound ago

I appreciate that we as you say are just two people sitting at keyboards, I guess I'm searching for the logic here also as voat has been a good community to me and for that I am grateful.

It does sound like the other user here karen is attempting some kind of extortion/blackmail from the conversations I have seen going on, but this is completely speculative and I have very little to back that statement up. Perhaps the user never had any intent of actually getting money but all you need to do is ask for it and we cross the line, its also difficult if I operate under the premise that as I am totally external, as would be the case for external mods I/we could not tell if you have dumped all your data or just the non payers.

I don't think there is anything morally wrong with whats being done here to be fair. Final nugget for you on this one, if your using a VPN you might as well have a neon signpost erected over yourself saying I'm hiding, checkout rule 41 implemented last Dec. If you use VPN your devices belong to FBI no further warrant needed. I have to hide in plain sight these days remote into sleeper machines with no internet condoms lol have not used a vpn in some time now, so far so good.

Welcome_fags ago

I have dumped no data in the leak. I have only done research on the individuals.

I obviously can't speak for what other users have done, and I won't be responsible for it nor comment on what have/have not transpired among parties that i have no insight in.

The extortion claim could be hearsay from squirming pedophiles for all we know. Lets say hypothetically there have been, who would witness, the pedophiles? lmao.

I was not aware of that rule but I'm fine with it. It should scare most scumbags away. The FBI is welcome to come visit me, I have faith in justice clearing me.

The fact you aren't using a VPN tells me that you won't be persecuted for saying "wrong think" on the internet(yet). Not everyone have that freedom.

Besides without a VPN, I can't effectively do my job. Its like a hammer to me. Sure i could use a hammer to harm someone, but I'm not a criminal. ;)

Welcome_fags ago

100% correct. I'm just speculating that is what happened. We wouldn't have broken any rules if it wasn't the case.

anyway enough speculation from my side, I'll sit back and wait for an admin to reply.

Welcome_fags ago

Canary haven't been updated since we started the hunt.

Hope everyone stays safe and uses proper OPSEC. The pedophiles are retaliating.

LostandFound ago

Canary updated 3 days ago ...... https://voat.co/v/announcements/1330806

Look at the edit date not the created date.

Edit: this happened inside the last 3 days, leaving apparently dumb comment for posterity

Welcome_fags ago

Yes? I'm not referring to pizzagate that existed before Voat took you in.

LostandFound ago

Ah apologies just got myself up to speed will edit my orig comment

Welcome_fags ago

No worries.

Quite a few people got angry, maybe they decided to attack Voat - they had motives and at least one lawyer so who knows. I hope I'm just being paranoid and that the admin is just busy porting Voat and haven't gotten around to it. Lets hope that I'm just overthinking this.

LostandFound ago

We should all be prepped for a shock even 8ch has starting spamming their onion links were about to see a massive take down in the coming weeks, I would be surprised if voat survives on the clearweb. So you are probably not overthinking this, time has come to 'shut it down'

Welcome_fags ago

I've seen the term "extreme free speech" thrown around, you'll hear it more frequently in the coming weeks i'm sure.

LostandFound ago

Just highlighting that the canary was updated

OnlyAPseudonym ago

Since when was tanukihat an admin? The only admins are puttitout and atko.

Welcome_fags ago

Pretty sure tanukihat is not an admin, just some animu moron from plebbit.

karenrussell63 ago

fuckin hell. pedos everywhere you look

kazza64 ago

julian assange just tweeted that bob hawke was compromised by the cia which would explain his paedophile activity as exposed by fiona barnett. the cia encourages politicians to engage in paedophile activity gain control over them. hawke was a union man and he got his union to stand down so equipment could be moved to pine gap. the cia facility in western australia.

carmencita ago

Upvoated you to counter the shill down voat. I highly agree with your comment. I expect my comment will be down voated by them too.