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Criticalthinker615 ago

Wow. I can't see how no one in local gov cant see a problem with allowing a DA to overturn old cases that they did not prosecute without a new trial

Are_we_sure ago

That's because District Attorneys are supposed to work on behalf of justice. Innocent people serving time for crimes they didn't commit is not justice.

Criticalthinker615 ago

he didn't prove that anyone was innocent. just waved his magic pen and charges disappear. that does not follow our ideals of 'checks and balances' democracy does it?

Are_we_sure ago

I wasn't speaking about any specific case. I speaking to the principle behind your question. Why can district attorney do this? Because in the US we are innocent until proven guilty. There have been many, many cases of genuine innocent people convicted and serving long sentences.

If a sentence is vacated or new evidence comes to light, a District Attorney can evaluate the case again. In the case of a vacated sentence, they have to decide if they want to have a new trial and if they have enough evidence to win that trial.

Let me turn your question around, if a person was convicted 15 years ago and we learn that case had official misconduct, like the police faked a confidential informant or the prosecution withheld evidence from the defense, would we want current officials to cover up for prior corrupt officials or act like they couldn't do anything.

You don't have "to prove anyone is innocent" to let them go. You have to prove they are guilty in order to take their freedom away.

EDIT: Now looking at the details of this case

Nearly two years after the state’s highest criminal court overturned the child sexual abuse convictions for day care owners Dan and Fran Keller.

So they had their trial. They were convicted and upon appeal that conviction was overturned. So to say they didn't have a trial is false. Once they were overturned they are again presumed innocent. And the reason the case was overturned was the medical evidence against them was false. The doctor now admits he got it wrong.

Michael Mouw, the doctor whose testimony helped convict the Kellers, said in an affidavit presented to court this year that he had little training at the time on how to examine sexual abuse in children and came to the wrong conclusions in examining a child in the Keller case.

"While my testimony was based on a good faith belief at that time, I now realize my conclusion is not scientifically or medically valid, and that I was mistaken," he said in the affidavit, which was obtained by Reuters

The question before this new District Attorney was whether or not to have the new trial. So she reviewed the trial transcripts in the light of this new evidence: that the physical evidence of sexual assault was FLAT-OUT FALSE. What the doctor observed was actually a common variation of they hymen. And during that review, she realized that not only could the state not win a new trial, there was likely no crime at the center of this. And in this situation, it met the standards for Legally Innocent, that is, they are not getting off on a technicality. The legal system has not reason to believe they are anything, but innocent.

Criticalthinker615 ago

wow. just wow...obviously someone has an ax to grind

VieBleu ago

They really jumped on this one didn't they - I find when the Satanic element is brought to the fore in a rational format, our lovely tax funded CIA agents feel the need to actually go to work.

So nice to know they are out there looking out for us, protecting rational discourse on our behalf.

Notice too that this post got buried out of the HOT section, where it should rightfully still be on at least the second page at this point in time.

Blacksmith21 ago

This has been happening a lot lately. I have one post that leveled out at 7 upvoats, but 40+ comments. It was a total shill attack. People need to start looking at NEW.

VieBleu ago

what was the post?

Maybe you should repost it like I did, pointing out the attack. Make a nice companion to my post.

Blacksmith21 ago

My favorite interaction:

" Blacksmith21 [S] 0 points (+1|-1) 2 days ago

Dude....give it up. It isn't working anymore. Go enjoy your weekend or whatever it is vermin like you do for fun.

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[–] DonKeyhote -2 points (+1|-3) 2 days ago

I WILL.

SCREW YOU GUYS

I'M GOING HOME

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VieBleu ago

LOL PRICELESS

I love it.

I actually try to humanize them when possible, and try to remember they are just doing a (disgusting) job which they probably actually hate.

HorsieLvr lately has actually been making some amusing cracks.

Blacksmith21 ago

If I had to bet dollars against donuts, these are all 20-somethings (DonkeyHole admitted). They are getting paid just north of 15.00 per hour. Maybe 20.00. It's a 24/7 CrowdStrike operation. They have no idea who their boss is, but most of them are somewhere around the Beltway. There are a few from other locations.

The sad part is I'd bet all of them are carrying 100k+ worth of debt from some overhyped school and at the end of the day what are they doing for a meager living? Lying to people online. You can tell by DonkeyHole's reaction "SCREW YOU GUYS. I'M GOING HOME" - there is defeat in that tone. They know it's over.

Dressage2 ago

Did he own a car? Or take the bus. Hard to stretch $15