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DarkMath ago

Everyone feel free to ignore known shill V____Z. She's a graduate of the Hillary Clinton School of Bull Shit. She's learned to accuse her target of the exact offense SHE is guilty of.

In this case she's the shill but wants you to think it's actually George Webb who's shilling. You've seen this movie before from Hillary Clinton. She once famously said never let a good crisis go to waste. Well voila you get voat pizzagate shills accusing targetted individuals of being shills.

The only offense George Webb has made is questioning Andrew McCabe of the FBI. Andrew McCabe is a professional Deep State slow-walker. He and James Comey were the first and last line of defense to squash any investigation of the Deep State. Their most egregious crime to date appears to be covering up Hillary & Co's "Radioactive Ratline" making money bypassing the heavy regulation within the Uranium processing industry. Don't take my word for it. The fraud was first uncovered in "Clinton Cash". You may recall Bill and Hillary's Uranium deals played a staring role in that devastating documentary that helped defeat Hillary last fall. It appears part of that Radioactive Ratline involved using container ships to move radioactive waste:

http://archive.is/qo6OP

http://archive.is/Un462

http://archive.is/KcIJq

http://archive.is/5Vicm

George Webb's finally had enough and is suing the FBI:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtQ92gY5fWk

Perhaps V____Z could explain why a shill would sue their employer for $100,000,000. Something seems a little henky. It's actually kind of proof George is NOT a shill but whatevs.

And as always the real victims are poor people. In this case any poor person unfortunate enough to live near the Savannah River radioactive waste dump and/or the ship breaking yards of India and Bangladesh(East Pakistan). And for the record as a yoot I spent a lot of time on that river. It's a beautiful area. The Savannah runs next to Augusta Georgia where they play the Masters Golf Tournament every year. Maybe that explains my deep seated hatred of rich people. I'll have to do more with @AreWeSure, @are_we_sure, @rWeSure on that one in couples therapy this week.

Now back to the fraud, the beneficiaries of the Radioactive Ratline appear to be all the usual suspects. You know the drill. Go see "Clinton Cash" as soon as you can. And don't be fooled by the stellar "Charity Audit" you see floating around the internet. The Clinton Foundation never received a Financial Audit which must go to ground to find real people and real companies. A Charity Audit can't pierce the veil of a Limited Partnership, it has to take their word for it. If we've learned anything it's never take Hillary's "word for it".

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AngB23 ago

Until people WAKE UP and know what exactly Zionists are and that Mossad is NOT Jews, this evil will continue. Do your research and understand the difference between Zionists/Mossad and REAL Jews

https://imgur.com/a/Bu8V1

https://imgur.com/a/hrkR5

DarkMath ago

No.

I don't take suggestions from Nazis. Sorry.

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AngB23 ago

LMAO. The only Nazis living today is the 21 Century Kind created by Soros- Antifa, Feminist Movement, BLM....true communism But if people want to continue to believe Zionists are Jews, they are living a lie

DarkMath ago

"if people want to continue to believe Zionists are Jews"

Best of luck convincing people Zionist aren't Jews. Be sure to let me know how that works out for you.

AngB23 ago

I'm not trying to convince anyone. It's everyone's own responsibility to educate themselves versus believing the horseshit shoved down our throats thru centuries of "anti-semistim" that Zionists shield themselves with.

DarkMath ago

David Rockefeller was the guy behind 9/11. Yes he hired Mossad demolition experts. But it was David Rockefeller and George H.W. Bush who planned the whole thing. Those are both hard core W.A.S.P.s.

Sorry to pop your bubble.

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jangles ago

I was involved with the failure analysis of the towers, I saw the evidence, did the engineering analysis and the towers were brought down by planes filled with jet fuel. The real crimes are associated to the stegnography tools supplied by G Bush's admin for their communications. These tools are still used by pedophiles and terrorists against the states.

DarkMath ago

"I was involved with the failure analysis of the towers,"

In what capacity? Please be as specific as possible. I speak Mathematics.

"the towers were brought down by planes filled with jet fuel."

Not WTC 7. That's a different animal all together. So the following is applying to WTC 7 only where no Jet Fuel was involved and there were only minor fires on only a few floors.

WTC 7 was built like a brick shit house. More steel was used than necessary due to its use as a command center during a disaster. Furthermore steel wouldn't fail in the manner it did within WTC 7 on 9/11. Steel is steel because it's insanely strong and resists force by bending long before it will snaps. A steel structure collapsing under load would display a visible loading and then snapping and loading then snapping etc etc.

A good analogy for steel resisting a load is on a steel container ship. The steel is loaded/unloaded constantly. Here what that looks like: https://youtu.be/PmlTk_3NN_g?t=69 WTC 7 collapsing would reflect this loading/unloading behavior. It would be very noticeable to the naked eye as extended pauses between each floor collapsing.

It's impossible for steel to collapse at exactly the same speed of steel within a controlled demolition. Here's what that looks like.

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jangles ago

My capacity for the study was conducted at the university, and other sister universities, where I got my M.S. in Materials Engineering, since I have been in biomedical. The two towers, when built has asbestos lined supports up to the ~62 floor, the change in laws prevented the rest of the towers from being protected. The thermal energy needed to raise the entire mass of 10 floors of the WTC in NYC above their Austenizing temp was only equivalent to 180 gal of jet fuel. For BP Jet A-1 there is 43.15 MJ/kg energy with a density at 15 °C is 804 kg/m3. Assuming ~100 m^3 for the freshly fueled jets we see a total of ~4,250,000,000 BTU. This was sufficient to lead to the catastrophic failure of the 2 main towers.

When we did this forensics review we did not consider WTC 7.

I understand you position on WTC 7. This was odd and the missing gold and the fact that the tenets were mainly Bank Salomon Smith Barney (now CTI), but there were also offices of the CIA, the Department of Defence, utility company ConEd, and the Internal Revenue Service.

WTC 7 collapsed at 5.21pm. This was long after the airplane hits and can be attributed to the materials burning in the building. Here is a picture of the serious fire in the WTC 7 on a lower floor. This could lead to a similar failure to a controlled demolition as the steel reaches temps over 1800F and becomes very 'plastic'.

Don't get me wrong in saying this, I still believe that there was foul play at hand. I attribute most of my anger to the cryptic tools (stegnography) used by the Saudi's who attacked our country. John Podesta was involved in making this 'legal' through the Millennium Copyright Law where they classify this method (stegnography) as watermarking and then are able to send crypto messages without violating the law. THIS IS BAD because this is also a key tool for PEDOS.

DarkMath ago

"When we did this forensics review we did not consider WTC 7."

I specifically asked we not deal with WTC 1 and 2 for this very reason. Your research doesn't apply here because you dealt with a steel structure hit by a massive airplane travelling at 500+ knots containing a full load of Jet Fuel. We're talking an ungodly about of energy that could cloud the issue.

So now WTC 7. I'm not sure why you included a picture of a fire on a floor of WTC 7 when I admitted there were fires on some of the floors. Forgive me but you're down 2 strikes already.

So that leaves just one argument: "This could lead to a similar failure to a controlled demolition as the steel reaches temps over 1800F and becomes very 'plastic'."

1) Yes steel will become more malleable when heated to the temperature Jet Fuel burns at. But no Jet Fuel hit WTC 7 and "plastic" is the wrong word. Steel that's been heated like that still maintains a large portion of its strength. There have been many studies proving this and quite frankly that's why steel is steel. The temperatures required to make it are insanely high as in approaching the surface temperature of the Sun. I think steel melts at like 1/2 the Sun's surface temperature. And remember the fires inside WTC 7 were office fires hardly the inferno going on in WTC 1 and 2.

2) Fire only explains the collapse of the floors with fires on them. All other floors were at 100% strength. For them to fail would require the same loading/unloading I mentioned earlier. As WTC 7 collapsed we should have seen distinct pauses as the steel on each floor is loaded to failure and then snaps. We don't see anything like that. All we see is EXACTLY the behavior seen in a building demolition like this.

The only conclusion possible for WTC 7 is a controlled demolition. There are no other explanations. And the NIST report reflects this. Their computer models didn't use standard parameters for steel's strength, elasticity etc. The NIST model reproduced something vaguely resembling the collapse with the assumption the steel was more like a piece of lumber. And worse if you look at the video of the NIST model collapsing it doesn't collapse symmetrically. Even NISTs own model can't reproduce the collapse.

WTC 7 was a controlled demolition. That means 9/11 was an inside job as tragic as that is to accept. But accept it we must. And once you accept it was an inside job you can explain the rational for 9/11 by reading up on an infamous propaganda technique behind it called The Big Lie. A big lie is much easier to believe than a little lie. When it came to propaganda Adolph Hitler was a genius.

And the rest is History.

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jangles ago

"Steel that's been heated like that still maintains a large portion of its strength. There have been many studies proving this and quite frankly that's why steel is steel." FYI I don't think you "speak math" when you say thins like "I think steel melts at like 1/2 the Sun's surface temperature" when the sun surface is 9500F and steel melts at 2500F. Furthermore, structural steel easily PLASTICLY DEFORMS at ~1200F.

Plastic is the proper term https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticity_(physics)

DarkMath ago

"PLASTICLY DEFORMS at ~1200F"

Plasticity is a relative term. I just means bends. You're right about the temperature at which steel bends, I didn't know the exact temperatures. But that doesn't matter you can't address my argument with steel plasticly deforms at ~1200F. You provided no number regarding HOW MUCH PLASTICITY. Get it?

You created what's called a Straw Man. You couldn't argue the point so you attacked the fact I got the wrong temperature and then put in the word "plasticly" which is meaningless without numbers proving HOW MUCH it bends.

"You lost cred in my eyes dude"

You shouldn't say that given the Straw Man you built and the fact you didn't address the 2nd issue. Remember I brought up TWO arguments, you only addressed the first. The second argument is the speed with which the steel failed doesn't reflect the time required to load up the steel to failure.

Unless you provide empirical numbers about steel plasticity and what temperature you lose 1). And if you don't address 2) in your response to this this comment you'll lose that as well.

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jangles ago

@DarkMath , I hear your response clearly and find it fair as the thermophysical properties of metals, mechanics of materials and interdependent dynamics during failure are complex and not trivial. Before I provide a detailed response I would like to assure my interpretation of the questions are sufficient. Please respond to this comment :)


1) What are the empirical values associated to the plastic deformation of structural steel and at what temperature will catastrophic failure of the fire damaged floors manifest as it was observed during the collapse the WTC buildings in 2001.

2) The failure of the heat damaged floors explained by the degradation of the steel's strength during the time and temperature dependent doesn't sufficiently resolve the failure mode observed when the WTC buildings fell. Are there system dynamics that can explain why the buildings appeared to be 'demolished' with explosives, especially the floors that were not damaged by fire. Furthermore, why weren't distinct pauses as the steel on each floor was loaded to failure and to what extent does strain rate affect the failure modes of beams, bolts, welds and joints?

DarkMath ago

1) Why are you asking me the same question I asked you?

2) "Are there system dynamics that can explain why the buildings appeared to be 'demolished' with explosives"......Yes. WTC 7 was brought down by controlled demolition.

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jangles ago

Impulse dynamics and catastrophic rupture are key pieces to the question at hand. The high strain rates and shear impulse seen in the floors not damaged by the fire (diesel generators on lower floors) when the damaged floors buckled and gave way. Here is video that shows some key aspects on the integrity of WTC7 and why it fell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbPpK-oWdYc

@DarkMath I really believe that the attention on WTC 7 is a distraction from the advanced cryptographic communications these terrorists were using that enabled them to deploy this horrible attack.

Here are some details worth your time.

A wired http://archive.wired.com/politics/law/news/2001/02/41658?currentPage=all

Bin Laden: Steganography Master?

by Declan McCullagh 2:00 a.m. Feb. 7, 2001 PST

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/690489/posts


https://www.giac.org/paper/gsec/1943/steganography-evil-hear-evil-speak-evil/103398

Steganography- See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil. Chris Farrow GSEC Practical v1.3 May 13th, 2002

Abstract

With the world focused on terrorism propagated by poor security and businesses suffering from huge economic losses due to computer crime, information security has become a top focus of IT departments. Corporations have begun to heavily implement strategies to secure their workplaces and the information associated with their business. Security tradeshows have sprung up around the globe and organizations are spending significant portions of their budget on training and outsourcing. Yet, despite this revival in information security there are still entire fields of security that remain virtually unknown. Of these, steganography provides not only an exemplary tool for protection of intellectual property and a medium of private communication but also a serious risk to the security of an organization. Amazingly, a simple search of online stores for steganography books and courses finds this subject to be almost unheard of. Further research for steganographic focused vendors shows there is a serious lack of strategy and defensive solutions for the corporate world. This paper is intended to explore the legitimate and malicious uses of steganography and the lack of defensive strategies to counter steganographic techniques. To adequately understand the subject material, the paper provides background information on the history of steganography, an overview of different types of steganography and popular steganographic tools.


https://www.giac.org/paper/gsec/3494/steganography-age-terrorism/102620

Steganography: A New Age of Terrorism

“Steganography is the art and science of communicating in a way which hides the existence of the communication’ (Johnson). According to nameless “U.S. officials and experts” and “U.S. and foreign officials,” terrorist groups are “hiding maps and photographs of terrorist targets and posting instructions for terrorist activities on sports chat rooms, pornographic bulletin boards and other Web sites” (Schneier). Three years ago, FBI Director Louis Freeh tried to convince government authorities that terrorists were using encryption and steganography to support their organizations. Freeh urged legislators to enact stricter Internet usage laws, emphasizing that ignoring the issue would not only cause harm to the United States, but that it would make the fight against terrorism extremely difficult (McCullagh). Today, terrorist organizations such as Hamas, Hezbollah, al Qaeda, and others, are employing advanced steganography techniques to pass sensitive communications across the Internet, undetected. In the wake of several highly coordinated and deadly terrorist attacks, the United States government, and indeed, the world, is hastening to discover viable methods for the detection and prevention of this electronic subterfuge, in the hope that denying criminal networks (the use of the Internet as a communications medium) will render them incapable of mounting another attack that could cost more lives.


DarkMath ago

Your first piece of evidence is a blurry 4 minute video which flashes a few quotes from the NIST report: l. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbPpK-oWdYc

Jangles that's pathetic. It's disturbing that you'd lead with that. I was expecting something more like this: Anatomy of a Great Deception which explains in great detail how that NIST report couldn't reproduce the way WTC 7 collapsed which was symmetrically. The NIST explanation relies of jagged chunks of WTC 7 failing due falling debris from WTC 1 and 2. That theory requires an ASYMMETRICAL collapse which clearly didn't happen.

You just officially lost. Please watch Anatomy of a Great Deception before responding. Thank you.

jangles ago

You officially lost because you are distracted with this unsubstantiated theory and haven't been worried about the advanced cryptic communication techniques used to orchestrate these attacks.

DarkMath ago

"You officially lost"

No. You lost when you refused to watch Anatomy of a Great Deception.

I watched your 4 minute joke of a video. Now it's your turn.

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jangles ago