Pope Francis calls those who talk about pizzagate 'shit eaters':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gEqEutwLmU
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1514802
The real reason Pope Francis is lenient on pedos while against truthers on pizzagate is because of a document issued by Ratzinger (Cardinal then Pope Benedict XVI) when he was the "Grand Inquisitor"-- yes Grand Inquisitor (Torquemada was the first Grand Inquisitor).
Ratzinger was named by this survivor as being part of human hunting parties and ritual torture and murder of children:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1800676
He also avoided prosecution in a sex abuse case by claiming "diplomatic immunity" (because the Vatican is country with it's own currency central Rothschild bank, intelligence services etc.):
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/pope-seeks-immunity-over-sex-abuse-suit/2005/08/17/1123958097061.html
NB: Pope Benedict XVI was the first pope to resign in over 500 years, and the first to resign voluntarily in over 700 years. We might well ask why.
The obligatory red shoes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_shoes
The document Ratzinger was responsible for is called Crimen Sollicitationis (it's written in Latin).** It effectively silences those reporting pederasty by clergy no matter who they are, as well as the victims themselves under pain of excommunication.** Excommunication for a Catholic means eternity in hell. Even, nuns and priests who reported pedo clergy were not only defrocked but excommunicated.
Source: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Crimen_Sollicitationis
Although articles, as on Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimen_sollicitationis)) say it is no longer in effect, the fact is by all accounts including their own in the same referenced article, it was simply replaced with another (secret) one in May of 2001.
This document came into the public consciousness due in part to media coverage of the pedo scandal.
Interviewed for a television program in 2006, canon lawyer Thomas Doyle described the tight secrecy demanded for the procedure [of investigating child rape, etc.] as "an explicit written policy to cover up cases of child sexual abuse by the clergy, to punish those who would call attention to these crimes by churchmen". This is a quotation from a (an ironically) BBC documentary on clergy sexual abuse in Ireland. While periodically removed from vimeo and YouTube, here is one I found today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcJT0b-gkIA
This is important because the it is this show which made Crimen Sollicitationis known among the general public.
This document has been used in American cases (which have been won to the tune of billions so far) against pedo priests.
https://ozatheist.wordpress.com/category/crimen-sollicitationis/
This document came into the public consciousness due in part to media coverage and the priest pedo scandal.
Parenthetically: This is not at all an indictment against Roman Catholic people or their faith. Please read this post according to it's relevance to pizzagate and institutional protection of pedophiles.
It is important to note that homosexuality among RC clergy is rife due in large part to the prohibition on marriage of priests after the great schism in the middle ages. After a thousand years of Christianity, when the RC decided to split from the original church and become a quite different and worldly organization, they sought to confiscate property and all assets of clergy as they had considerable wealth and land. Priests were ordered to divorce their wives and turn everything over to the Vatican. [The original church, the Eastern Orthodox Christian Church, allowed and still allows married priests.]
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Laskar ago
The Roman Catholic Church did not exist before 1054. You are either ignorant or misinformed. The Church Fathers, The Nicean Creed, the Seven ecumenical councils, are all of the original, unbroken church. When the bishop of Rome decided he wanted to have authority over all of Christendom and when he changed the only Creed of the Christian Church which was codified at the council of Nicea, and appoint himself head of the church, he excommunicated all other Christians, including The entire Orthodox Christian Church, the Copts, etc. He removed himself from truth entirely. The Protestants (who are still "protesting" the heresy of the Roman Catholic Church) are even further from the truth, with no creed, invented dogmas, and they rely entirely on the ignorance of people about the True Church. The bible the "evangelicals" use--the Scofield Bible-- is a creation of a convicted forger who was paid by the Rothschilds to insert "notes" extolling the importance of their plan as outlined in the Balfour declaration of September 11th, 1917. The "mass" is an adulterated, truncated version of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. It is far from what the true church has used for nearly tow thousand years. The head of the Orthodox Church is Christ, not some pedo warlord, in an unbroken apostolic succession since Pentecost in 33 AD. Here is a chart which will make this easier to understand: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Dxi_zxOGFKc/T-k96XepRMI/AAAAAAAAAGI/1Fi8sOusjz0/s1600/orthodox-christian-timeline.png
EloquentOgre ago
So what is a proper Orthodox bible in English?
jesus_is_lord ago
original King James is the best translation i would say
bopper ago
Because the men who translated it walked the walk.
jesus_is_lord ago
and what walk is that?
bopper ago
They were holy. Not sinless, but exemplary in "experimental religion." And intellectual giants. We'll never see the likes of them again.
jesus_is_lord ago
i don't know much about the guy, he didn't translate it but he ordered the translation, and it's a very good translation (inspired)
bopper ago
Which translation are you talking about? Sorry, it gets confusing on here. I prefer the original KJV simply because the men were giants spiritually, and they would render a better (more spiritual) translation.
jesus_is_lord ago
original KJV
bopper ago
LOL. Okay, we're on the "same page." No pun intended. Yeah I don't even care for the new KJV.
jesus_is_lord ago
yeah, all those other translations seem to be mistranslations rather than translations
bopper ago
Exactly. You should look into the puritans and all their commentaries and books. They had the truth. I follow this church, it's hundreds of years old, was Trump's mom's church. I've been over there to his old home island and to one of their churches. http://www.fpchurch.org.uk/
jesus_is_lord ago
i'll look into it, thanks.. but since you mention Trump, do you think he's a christian?
bopper ago
No, but I think he's "not far from the kingdom of heaven." Mark 12:34 This is why I supported him, his family (mom) is from a very strict old school church, and that's never really left him ... and I watched as he became more and more "religious" and more humble during the campaign. I pray that he will become converted. What an amazing thing it would be.
jesus_is_lord ago
i think he might be closer to hell than to heaven with all those 666 signs he's throwing all the time
bopper ago
666 signs and symbolism aren't to be feared as much as being "dead in trespasses and sins," which Trump apparently still is at this time.