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Laskar ago

The Roman Catholic Church did not exist before 1054. You are either ignorant or misinformed. The Church Fathers, The Nicean Creed, the Seven ecumenical councils, are all of the original, unbroken church. When the bishop of Rome decided he wanted to have authority over all of Christendom and when he changed the only Creed of the Christian Church which was codified at the council of Nicea, and appoint himself head of the church, he excommunicated all other Christians, including The entire Orthodox Christian Church, the Copts, etc. He removed himself from truth entirely. The Protestants (who are still "protesting" the heresy of the Roman Catholic Church) are even further from the truth, with no creed, invented dogmas, and they rely entirely on the ignorance of people about the True Church. The bible the "evangelicals" use--the Scofield Bible-- is a creation of a convicted forger who was paid by the Rothschilds to insert "notes" extolling the importance of their plan as outlined in the Balfour declaration of September 11th, 1917. The "mass" is an adulterated, truncated version of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. It is far from what the true church has used for nearly tow thousand years. The head of the Orthodox Church is Christ, not some pedo warlord, in an unbroken apostolic succession since Pentecost in 33 AD. Here is a chart which will make this easier to understand: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Dxi_zxOGFKc/T-k96XepRMI/AAAAAAAAAGI/1Fi8sOusjz0/s1600/orthodox-christian-timeline.png

EloquentOgre ago

So what is a proper Orthodox bible in English?

jesus_is_lord ago

original King James is the best translation i would say

bopper ago

Because the men who translated it walked the walk.

jesus_is_lord ago

and what walk is that?

bopper ago

They were holy. Not sinless, but exemplary in "experimental religion." And intellectual giants. We'll never see the likes of them again.

jesus_is_lord ago

i don't know much about the guy, he didn't translate it but he ordered the translation, and it's a very good translation (inspired)

bopper ago

Which translation are you talking about? Sorry, it gets confusing on here. I prefer the original KJV simply because the men were giants spiritually, and they would render a better (more spiritual) translation.

jesus_is_lord ago

original KJV

bopper ago

LOL. Okay, we're on the "same page." No pun intended. Yeah I don't even care for the new KJV.

jesus_is_lord ago

yeah, all those other translations seem to be mistranslations rather than translations

bopper ago

Exactly. You should look into the puritans and all their commentaries and books. They had the truth. I follow this church, it's hundreds of years old, was Trump's mom's church. I've been over there to his old home island and to one of their churches. http://www.fpchurch.org.uk/

jesus_is_lord ago

i'll look into it, thanks.. but since you mention Trump, do you think he's a christian?

bopper ago

No, but I think he's "not far from the kingdom of heaven." Mark 12:34 This is why I supported him, his family (mom) is from a very strict old school church, and that's never really left him ... and I watched as he became more and more "religious" and more humble during the campaign. I pray that he will become converted. What an amazing thing it would be.

jesus_is_lord ago

i think he might be closer to hell than to heaven with all those 666 signs he's throwing all the time

bopper ago

666 signs and symbolism aren't to be feared as much as being "dead in trespasses and sins," which Trump apparently still is at this time.