Thank you very much for editing your post to include the new research that the embellishment of the facts in this case may be deliberate disinfo to frame pizzagate investigators retweeting it as agents of disinfo themselves and further drive the PG is "debunked" narrative.
I am also flairing this "Accuracy in Question" to help raise awareness, and make sure anyone coming here to read about pizzagate knows we are serious about research.
People should not trust http://usapoliticsnow.com -- it is clearly unreliable and possibly deliberate disinfo.
On 4 April, this report continues, the SVR further reported that one of the most knowledgeable construction attorneys in Atlanta, named Trinh Huynh, was assassinated after she had filed legal papers with the US Federal Court requesting documentation relating to the I-85 bridge explosion for United Parcel Service (UPS), the world's largest package delivery company headquartered in Atlanta, in a force majeure action—that is a common clause in contracts that essentially frees both parties from liability or obligation when an extraordinary event or circumstance beyond the control of the parties, such as a war, strike, riot, crime, or an event described by the legal term “act of God” occurs.
In congruence with Pizzagate theory, however, they reported that a deep state operative matching her killer was also arrested, with child porn:
Even more critical to note, this report says, is that an SVR computer facial recognition analysis of Raylon Browning in comparison with that of the known assassin of Trinh Huynh, whose image was captured on numerous video surveillance cameras, showed no match being found—but did turn up an exact match when compared against a photo of a known American “Deep State” operative named Nicolai Mork who had just been arrested in Las Vegas, Nevada, after his return there from Atlanta.
...Should Matthew Komatsu, however, write this book about Nicolai Mork, this report says, it will now have to include his arrest after returning from Atlanta to Las Vegas and his being indicted on terrorism and weapons of mass destruction charges after police found explosives “strong enough to penetrate a military tank” at his home—and whose other charges include his having 17 hard drives on a desk top computer which contained “child pornography”, “snuff films”, and images of him having sex with “seemingly unconscious women”.
SVR analysts in this report explain that all American “Deep State” operatives, like Nicolai Mork, who are targeted for elimination have multiple and lurid sex crimes charges and allegations thrown against them in order to destroy their credibility should anyone listen to the truths they may offer in their defense—and that, also, includes “enemies of the state” the Americans fear such as Wikileaks leader Julian Assange.
If we keep sharing our findings, ultimately they will be exposed. I think we need a megathread vetting the sites that are purveyors of disinfo that we can add to over time, with archived links to the evidence. If the community made such a thing, it would greatly help mods discern Rule 2 violating posts and remove them, citing the link, of course. It would also discourage ignorant noobs who think they need Contribution points like on Reddit from posting shite in the first place.
You and @anonOpenPress should start that thread. Be sure to spell out this is important to the investigation of elite pedophile rings due to their demonstrated ability to wage information warfare by discrediting their accusers. :-) Let me know if you need supporting links for that.
"megathread vetting the sites" that would have some serious cons, like for example: Even the worst clickbait sites repeat also valuable stuff sometimes, and even more trusted are vulnerable for spreading disinfo (by mistake / by being paid etc).
So, I'm not into putting up a thread listing "bad sources" - what I could help with regarding rule 2 might be a guideline for "How to validate accuracy of information" or "How to check a source". Reputation plays a very minor role in this.
I hear what you are saying, and it is a valid point. Let me clarify: I'm not suggesting we blacklist or whitelist sites -- just that we create a central place where people can do what you did with the Trinh Huynh posts. If we don't pool the data, we won't be able to see the patterns of misinfo or disinfo. That is all I am suggesting.
I really like your How-to ideas. That would also be very helpful for people.
Oh I got you wrong then, sorry. Now that sounds like an idea worth a thought. There are several patterns but some are more common. The most efficient pattern is to include a single fake claim in the news having all other parts accurate. In general, talking about misinfo, news can be catogorized to:
Accurate, sourced
Partially accurate, partially sourced (the best pattern for misleading)
Unknown, unsourced (includes those on which one can't really tell if the info is valid or not)
Likely or obvioulsy misleading, unsourced (not important, as not reliable anyway)
Misleading, fakesourced (the 2nd best pattern for misleading)
Disinfo and false flags are more difficult to recognize, as these both could be in "accurate, sourced" category. Typically there must be another reliable source proving some othert point of view. Most of the important news regarding our investigations should be considered with these in mind, which makes your idea even more worth it.
@Catchthem@Vindicator One suggestion for pooling such data comes to my mind... Could we somehow get our "individual fact checkers" to use a common tag in these kind of posts, which would able pooling via search. The tag should be unique, like for example [pg-fact-check] so that any other posts couldn't mix the pool.
This might require some visible side-bar guidance, and even a sticky guide post for a while (until ppl are familiar with the tag). Additionally, each such post could include "when writing similar posts, please use this tag" or something like that.
Yes fabulous breakdown.. I think you are right; "Even the worst clickbait sites repeat also valuable stuff sometimes, and even more trusted are vulnerable for spreading disinfo (by mistake / by being paid etc)."
Fabulous breakdown, anonOpenPress. You're now in my "saved" links. :-)
One of the things I've noticed with a number of these fake news purveyors is they like to use Wikileaks as a source, without linking to the Wikileak email in question.
I gave a second thought to address the idea (the first was right below. Your suggestion was actually the launching idea for /v/pizzagatejournalism - to help on fact checking. Will sure help regarding the patterns, if just some people start to post there. Might take a while, but you're not in a hurry I guess. @vindicator
It would be nice to have some verification that she was actually 'suing an elite pedophile ring' or something close to that, beyond the say so of yournewswire.com. So far we can believe that she was passionate about trafficked immigrants, no more. However, the idea that so soon after the I 85 disaster she could be ready with relevant FOIA applications and be recognized as a serious threat to the scheme is implausible.
This is about the I-85 bridge. They are giving a similar story as in 9/11 about steel melting. This bridge completely disintegrated.,They are trying to say it was from some arson fire. Impossible to melt steel beams and just like 9/11... there would have to be some sort of bomb or explosion. There are a large quantity of refugees in Georgia hurriedly placed in there Obama. The attorney that was assasinated was helping sex trafficked victims but also was demanding answers on the bridge because of possible terroists involvement and all of the truth was once again was withheld from the American people.
I read that the attorney was a very well known construction attorney in GA, and that she had just filed with the court for all info related to the I-85 bridge fire/collapse, not anything to do with pizzagate - outside of the fact that she would likely have been investigating the deep state over the bridge incident, and it seems the deep state are a sick pederasty of pervertedness.
No ofcourse not anything to do with Pizzagate.. http://yournewswire.com/attorney-elite-pedophile-ring-dead/ She just happends to get murdered by a possible Deepstate operative while also suing an Elite Pedophile ring.. Nothing to see here guys! Pizzagate is Debunked like Wikipedia says, we can all stop digging.
But this is the same guy on film who was found with the murder wapon who killed attourney Trinh Huynh who was suing Elite Pedophile Ring... So yes it does have to do with Pizzagate, as he seems to be operative/hitman from Deepstate.
Ok, I never act as a mod, and I'm pretty sure the mods aren't happy about that. I was just wondering if there are more sources for what she way doing doing/why she was killed - I would need them as well. Clearly I did not articulate myself well enough, thus the communication breakdown. We're both on the same team. Please accept my apology- I'm sorry! Peace
They say he was a Deepstate operative and trained hitman and many many more info.. The arrested suspected killer is in hospital after a fight with an inmate in jail, wich is strange because suspects from murder-cases Always get locked-up solitary.. Seems like he is tried to be made silent. They also found 17 harddrives with CP / snuff etc in his house. He is also a suspect in I 85 "collapse" bombing. Very interesting stuff they say! This seems a very big rabbit hole. Please dig people!
It is what he said in the video haha. Whether or not it is true is another thing. But its pretty compelling. It would make sense the CIA would burn their own operatives with child porn if they became compromised. That way they can claim he operated on his own or some shit and was rogue/insane.
Vindicator ago
@Catchthem;
Thank you very much for editing your post to include the new research that the embellishment of the facts in this case may be deliberate disinfo to frame pizzagate investigators retweeting it as agents of disinfo themselves and further drive the PG is "debunked" narrative.
I am also flairing this "Accuracy in Question" to help raise awareness, and make sure anyone coming here to read about pizzagate knows we are serious about research.
People should not trust http://usapoliticsnow.com -- it is clearly unreliable and possibly deliberate disinfo.
However, the Anonymous We Stand YouTube channel and the https://WhatDoesItMean.com news site they link to do not contain the fake news pedophile ring claims. Instead, they claim she was assassinated because she filed a FOIA request about the I-85 bridge explosion on behalf of UPS:
In congruence with Pizzagate theory, however, they reported that a deep state operative matching her killer was also arrested, with child porn:
Catchthem ago
Yes, Thank you very much for putting this so very well together vindicator!
Vindicator ago
If we keep sharing our findings, ultimately they will be exposed. I think we need a megathread vetting the sites that are purveyors of disinfo that we can add to over time, with archived links to the evidence. If the community made such a thing, it would greatly help mods discern Rule 2 violating posts and remove them, citing the link, of course. It would also discourage ignorant noobs who think they need Contribution points like on Reddit from posting shite in the first place.
You and @anonOpenPress should start that thread. Be sure to spell out this is important to the investigation of elite pedophile rings due to their demonstrated ability to wage information warfare by discrediting their accusers. :-) Let me know if you need supporting links for that.
anonOpenPress ago
"megathread vetting the sites" that would have some serious cons, like for example: Even the worst clickbait sites repeat also valuable stuff sometimes, and even more trusted are vulnerable for spreading disinfo (by mistake / by being paid etc).
So, I'm not into putting up a thread listing "bad sources" - what I could help with regarding rule 2 might be a guideline for "How to validate accuracy of information" or "How to check a source". Reputation plays a very minor role in this.
Vindicator ago
I hear what you are saying, and it is a valid point. Let me clarify: I'm not suggesting we blacklist or whitelist sites -- just that we create a central place where people can do what you did with the Trinh Huynh posts. If we don't pool the data, we won't be able to see the patterns of misinfo or disinfo. That is all I am suggesting.
I really like your How-to ideas. That would also be very helpful for people.
anonOpenPress ago
Oh I got you wrong then, sorry. Now that sounds like an idea worth a thought. There are several patterns but some are more common. The most efficient pattern is to include a single fake claim in the news having all other parts accurate. In general, talking about misinfo, news can be catogorized to:
Disinfo and false flags are more difficult to recognize, as these both could be in "accurate, sourced" category. Typically there must be another reliable source proving some othert point of view. Most of the important news regarding our investigations should be considered with these in mind, which makes your idea even more worth it.
anonOpenPress ago
@Catchthem @Vindicator One suggestion for pooling such data comes to my mind... Could we somehow get our "individual fact checkers" to use a common tag in these kind of posts, which would able pooling via search. The tag should be unique, like for example [pg-fact-check] so that any other posts couldn't mix the pool.
This might require some visible side-bar guidance, and even a sticky guide post for a while (until ppl are familiar with the tag). Additionally, each such post could include "when writing similar posts, please use this tag" or something like that.
Catchthem ago
Yes fabulous breakdown.. I think you are right; "Even the worst clickbait sites repeat also valuable stuff sometimes, and even more trusted are vulnerable for spreading disinfo (by mistake / by being paid etc)."
Vindicator ago
Fabulous breakdown, anonOpenPress. You're now in my "saved" links. :-)
One of the things I've noticed with a number of these fake news purveyors is they like to use Wikileaks as a source, without linking to the Wikileak email in question.
anonOpenPress ago
I gave a second thought to address the idea (the first was right below. Your suggestion was actually the launching idea for /v/pizzagatejournalism - to help on fact checking. Will sure help regarding the patterns, if just some people start to post there. Might take a while, but you're not in a hurry I guess. @vindicator
Catchthem ago
New info on this guy http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4385334/MIT-graduate-40-indicted-terrorism-charges.html http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2275.htm
Astrodreamer ago
It would be nice to have some verification that she was actually 'suing an elite pedophile ring' or something close to that, beyond the say so of yournewswire.com. So far we can believe that she was passionate about trafficked immigrants, no more. However, the idea that so soon after the I 85 disaster she could be ready with relevant FOIA applications and be recognized as a serious threat to the scheme is implausible.
Catchthem ago
http://usapoliticsnow.com/breaking-attorney-suing-elite-pedophile-ring-shot-dead/
Jem777 ago
This is about the I-85 bridge. They are giving a similar story as in 9/11 about steel melting. This bridge completely disintegrated.,They are trying to say it was from some arson fire. Impossible to melt steel beams and just like 9/11... there would have to be some sort of bomb or explosion. There are a large quantity of refugees in Georgia hurriedly placed in there Obama. The attorney that was assasinated was helping sex trafficked victims but also was demanding answers on the bridge because of possible terroists involvement and all of the truth was once again was withheld from the American people.
Godwillwin ago
De we know she was investigating the pedos?
Catchthem ago
She was suing an Elite Pedofile ring http://yournewswire.com/attorney-elite-pedophile-ring-dead/
Godwillwin ago
Sorry. I see now. I had clicked on the article earlier but on my phone and somehow skipped the first paragrah
jstayz44 ago
I read that the attorney was a very well known construction attorney in GA, and that she had just filed with the court for all info related to the I-85 bridge fire/collapse, not anything to do with pizzagate - outside of the fact that she would likely have been investigating the deep state over the bridge incident, and it seems the deep state are a sick pederasty of pervertedness.
Catchthem ago
No ofcourse not anything to do with Pizzagate.. http://yournewswire.com/attorney-elite-pedophile-ring-dead/ She just happends to get murdered by a possible Deepstate operative while also suing an Elite Pedophile ring.. Nothing to see here guys! Pizzagate is Debunked like Wikipedia says, we can all stop digging.
jstayz44 ago
I'm questioning the source because everything that came out after the assassination was about the bridge. Don't take it personally.
Catchthem ago
But this is the same guy on film who was found with the murder wapon who killed attourney Trinh Huynh who was suing Elite Pedophile Ring... So yes it does have to do with Pizzagate, as he seems to be operative/hitman from Deepstate.
jstayz44 ago
Ok, I never act as a mod, and I'm pretty sure the mods aren't happy about that. I was just wondering if there are more sources for what she way doing doing/why she was killed - I would need them as well. Clearly I did not articulate myself well enough, thus the communication breakdown. We're both on the same team. Please accept my apology- I'm sorry! Peace
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Catchthem ago
They say he was a Deepstate operative and trained hitman and many many more info.. The arrested suspected killer is in hospital after a fight with an inmate in jail, wich is strange because suspects from murder-cases Always get locked-up solitary.. Seems like he is tried to be made silent. They also found 17 harddrives with CP / snuff etc in his house. He is also a suspect in I 85 "collapse" bombing. Very interesting stuff they say! This seems a very big rabbit hole. Please dig people!
anonOpenPress ago
Misleading news, my two cents on this /v/pizzagate/1779596
Godwillwin ago
He's in the hospital now https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.insideedition.com/headlines/22635-man-accused-of-killing-attorney-on-busy-street-hospitalized-after-chewing-his-arm-in-jail/amp
No sorry. He was returned to jail and his court appearance moved to Thursday https://www.google.com/amp/www.ajc.com/news/breaking-news/sheriff-midtown-shooting-suspect-attacks-inmate-chews-own-arm/HWUsX74GYlvkyIuC72ebKP/amp.html
Anyone know how the court appearance went?
Catchthem ago
Yes thanks for posting this! Very interesting.
Godwillwin ago
I read he tried to chew his own arm off in jail ??
Phenomenonanon ago
That's not true
rail606 ago
It is what he said in the video haha. Whether or not it is true is another thing. But its pretty compelling. It would make sense the CIA would burn their own operatives with child porn if they became compromised. That way they can claim he operated on his own or some shit and was rogue/insane.
Catchthem ago
What is not true?