NYPD and evidence against Clinton an examination (pizzagate)

submitted ago by Are_we_sure

So there's a pizzagate protest in NYC tomorrow outside 1 Police Plaza.

The idea that NYPD has all this bombshell evidence seems to have started with TruePundit. Should we believe this site?

Sept 22 2016 Weiner story breaks in England, the next day NYPD, FBI announce investigations

Oct 3 FBI seize a laptop, an iPad, an iPhone and router from Anthony Weiner

Oct 28 It's revealed that Comey's letter to congress was inspired by Weiner's laptop. Also says it's more than 1,000 emails

The emails, numbering more than 1,000, were found on a computer used by both Weiner (D-N.Y.) and his wife, top Clinton aide Huma Abedin, according to law enforcement officials with knowledge of the inquiry who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

That's kind of a weird way of putting it. Do they mean somewhere less than 2,000? I heard people say it was 650,000 emails on the laptop. 650,000 is more than 1.000 but is that how you would say it. I wonder if the reporter asked the question in an odd way. Did they mean only 1,000 of the emails involved Clinton? (Also this story has 19,000 comments. Wow.)

Nov 2: NewPundit publishes this Bombshell: NYPD blows whistle on New Hillary emails. This article makes several claims. We can see if these have turned out or not.

NYPD turned over a laptop to the FBI

Clinton, her crew and several members of Congress were facing life in prison

500,000 emails to and from Hillary Clinton

The FBI and Comey read these emails and that's why Comey sent his letter because the crimes were way worse than mishandling classified info

NYPD officials including a chief will go public if indictments don't happen. They have copies of the info and will hold a press conference or go to wikileaks.

Weiner flipped and was cooperating.

The FBI and the NYPD split up the case. " FBI sources said Abedin and Weiner were cooperating with federal agents, who have taken over the non-sexting portions the case from NYPD. "

Oct 31 Found out where the 650,000 email figure comes from. The majority don't concern Clinton. WSJ reported it, they also reported that at the time of Comey's letter, the FBI did not have a warrant to look at Clinton's emails.

Investigators found 650,000 emails on a laptop that they believe was used by former Rep. Anthony Weiner and his estranged wife Huma Abedin, a close Clinton aide, and underlying metadata suggests thousands of those messages could have been sent to or from the private server that Mrs. Clinton used........Officials had to await a court order to begin reviewing the emails—which they received over the weekend, according to a person familiar with the matter—because they were uncovered in an unrelated probe of Mr. Weiner.

So can we say At the time of Comey's letter on the 28th, the FBI didn't have a warrant for the Huma/Clinton emails.....their original warrant would have only applied to Weiner. The warrant was granted on Oct 30th.

Oct 7 Comey says email review doesn't change conclusions and no criminal charges are coming.

There's no way for all of the above to be true. Either Comey, the FBI and prosecutors are lying, TruePundit is lying or TruePundit was lied to. Can anyone think of any other possibility?

Evaluating the claims. **NYPD turned over a laptop to the FBI. ** Contradicted by earlier NY Times story on Oct 3. Can anyone find a source in Oct that says the NYPD got the laptop? This becomes pretty big, because unless the FBI showed it to the nypd, this would falsify all the claims about what was on the laptop.

500,000 emails to and from Hillary Clinton. This is contradicted by WSJ/Fox story. The total number seems to be 650,000, but only thousands would apply to Clinton. That's 1/11th of 650,000. So 650,000 seem to be every email by everybody on that laptop. Remember during her 4 year term as Secretary State her server only had about 30,000 work and 30,000 personal emails.

Clinton, her crew and several members of Congress were facing life in prison. The FBI and Comey read these emails and that's why Comey sent his letter because the crimes were way worse than mishandling classified info NYPD officials including a chief will go public if indictments don't happen. They have copies of the info and will hold a press conference or go to wikileaks. These are all contradicted by Comey closing the case against Clinton, no indictments coming down and no response from NYPD, no press conference, no wikileaks. Also the FBI didn't have a warrant to examine the Clinton emails until the 30th, which if true, means Comey was not forced to reopen case by reading about stomach turning crimes on weiner's laptop.

Weiner/Huma flipped and were cooperating. The FBI and the NYPD split up the case.

I haven't seen anything to support these claims.

Laying all this out, just makes me realize how improbable all this is. There's supposed to be all this evidence of horrible and serious crimes and Comey knows that the NYPD had the laptop first and thus, many, many people may have seen this evidence. If multiple NYPD detectives had a copy of this evidence including NYPD brass, they wouldn't have to leak to Wikileaks. They have power. They could go public and would be able to garner coverage from every media outlet in the country. If this was true, they could easily take Comey down. Especially ever since January 20th. If there was genuine evidence of this baroque conspiracy, they would get a hearing in the White House.

Is there any way these claims can actually be true?

DarkMath ago

I'm not sure I follow you. The chemical attack was just this week. I'm not sure why you'd expect proof it was a false flag in two days time. It literally just happened. I think it's a false flag because this is their MO. I've seen so many you begin to recognize the pattern.

But yes we need proof to be sure. That just takes time, people have to go in there and take samples then send them to a place like the chemical weapons lab at Porton Down in England. It'll take months to process the raw data.

Wash-Rinse-Repeat.

DarkMath ago

It's Herr but whatever............Seymour Hersh can explain it better than I can. You might remember him for the Pulitzer Prize he got reporting on these psychopaths during the Vietnam War which was started DING DING DING by the Tonkin Gulf false flag.

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/04/28/seymour-hersh-hillary-approved-sending-libya-sarin-syrian-rebels.html

Seymour Hersh

DarkMath ago

Don't try to wiggle out of it. I've been here 4 months and have seen 1000 shills spout a 1000 different types of bull shit. You're par for the course.

You're a fucking heartless shill. Assad didn't do this. He'd be out of his mind to give the Deep State a reason to attack. A canned ham could have seen this false flag coming from a mile away.. The Deep State did this. This is what the people you are shilling for do on a daily basis.

DarkMath ago

"who thinks the Russians are innocent"

Aaaaand you're a shill. You'd think evidence of child rape, organ harvesting, drug smuggling, and charity fraud that kept 98% of the relief money because..........actually I don't know why. I'm not a psychotic racist so I can't comprehend how you could steal money from poor black people, import cocaine to hook poor black people on crack, import mango-flavored heroin to hook poor white people on opiates, kill journalists who ask too many questions and maintain a robust human trafficking network to fuel the Brownstone Operations that are used to keep the whole thing from falling apart.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/19/homan-square-chicago-police-disappeared-thousands https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElJZw7eqnAE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkNyOdLdpQE&t=137s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sv5gfKlKq0

DarkMath ago

"don't have an argument"

Really? It was just a coinkydink that Steven Sotloff tweeted his discovery Syrian rebels were stock piling Sarin gas precursors in Turkey.

Wow. I don't often come across such a fucking idiot I wonder how he was able to get on the internet let alone pick up the subtleties of "The False Flag Attack" the Deep State have carried out yearly since the first one they pulled in the Gulf of Tonkin to get us into the Vietnam War.

Useful idiot doesn't quite cover it.

DarkMath ago

"and yet your only argument here is"

Where did you conclude I only have one argument from:

"Besides this clown fraud is so massive there's plenty of evidence OUTSIDE of the 650,000 Weiner emails. Let's be topical and talk about evidence Assad wasn't behind the Ghouta Sarin gas attack. Steven Sotloff tweeted this out a short time before he was killed:"

Take your time. I'll wait.

The_Roman_Numeral ago

Hey Rachel, how's Suzie doing?.. send her my love will ya? and I also have Trump's 06' tax returns, interested?

Judgejewdy ago

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Judgejewdy ago

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HopeLiesInTheProles ago

@PizzagateBot was created by one of the genius hackers in this community, as a way to circumvent censorship attempts (e.g., Voat search box is always broken, inexplicably). This bot helps tie relevant discussion threads and evidence together.

I'm not a hacker myself, but these guys/gals are my HEROES. Someday, historians will write about how black hats saved the world. 2016: The year hackers became journalists, and journalists became hacks.

Judgejewdy ago

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PizzagateBot ago

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This isn't even my final form.

V____Z ago

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PizzagateBot ago

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PizzagateBot ago

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DarkMath ago

Now that was good. You had me worried there for a while.

DarkMath ago

"That was a quick reply."

That's it? That's your comeback?

Let's do this, how about you pay me for a 4 hour take down class where you learn things like how to write a comeback without coming off as a complete fucking idiot. I give you the class, we can do it over skype and then you can come back here and at least be entertaining.

Interested?

11-11 ago

Thanks for putting this timeline together

this isn't an answer to your question but as I was reading this, the outrage was building

why do we have to GUESS at all of this? Why doesn't the FBI do their job?

Why can't we TRUST them to do their job?

We are paying their salaries and we have to sit and guess at all of this?

Am I the only one but this is utterly ridiculous ==== ??? WTF ??? What country are we living in? We are more like Russia Than Russia!!!!!!

Are_we_sure ago

My conclusion is that the FBI did their job and other claims are bullshit.

They closed the case on Clinton and there's an active case on Weiner. This is the latest on the Weiner case.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/31/prosecutors-weigh-child-pornography-charges-against-anthony-weiner.html

What's the source of your outrage? What for you would be the FBI doing its job?

DarkMath ago

What kind of parents would name their son Rachel?

DarkMath ago

Now you're rockin' two names @AreWeSure, what's up with that? Did you get sick of the horse shit old AreWeSure was flinging? Did you start to have trouble looking yourself in the mirror every morning?

AreWeSure your arguments above are about as tight as a soup sandwich. Let's take this gem for example:

"The majority don't concern Clinton."

Monumental moron, the person at the top of any organized crime family rarely gets involved in the day to day operations of their money machine. If you need me to explain why that's true then you're a bigger idiot than I thought. When those emails come out the real dirt will be lower down the food chain. But that's ok, you only need one connection to the top for Killary to be sucked up in the maelstrom about to descend on the perps in this case.

Besides this clown fraud is so massive there's plenty of evidence OUTSIDE of the 650,000 Weiner emails. Let's be topical and talk about evidence Assad wasn't behind the Ghouta Sarin gas attack. Steven Sotloff tweeted this out a short time before he was killed:

https://twitter.com/stevensotloff/status/340144057743450112

I know you have trouble reading but it's pretty clear that tweet pissed off some people and as you can see their last name wasn't Assad. And they're most likely the same people behind the Sarin gas attack this week. Then there's the Porton Down testing and all the rest.

Give it up dude, you need to start saving your sanity at this point because your mind is going to implode when the truth finally comes out.

;-)

RebelSkum ago

This arewesure individual is one of the most tenacious downvote-getters I have ever seen in all my days.

Are_we_sure ago

Do I know you?

DarkMath ago

"Do I know you?"

Yes. We met once on a summer cruise.

(making a clawing motion with my right hand while saying reow)

Are_we_sure ago

upvoated.

DarkMath ago

"upvoated"

Epic. You can't even figure out this comment system.

Fascinating