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SoberSecondThought ago

As I've only lurked until now, I'll keep this simple. I am not arguing for or against the thoughts contained in this manifesto. I just want to suggest that it be tabled for a while, because it is still too soon for such measures. Why?

Very shortly after Trump won, he asked Preet Bharara to stay on as U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. This is the federal office that would deal with the Weiner/Abedin computer case.

NYT original report of Bharara staying on

Since then, we have seen a long string of stories confirming that Trump and Sessions are determined to go after child trafficking all the way to "the highest levels". This includes somewhere between 1,500 and 2,000 arrests, and hundreds of victims rescued. But there has been virtually nothing in the Weiner/Abedin case, which Bharara would logically be responsible for. Now Bharara has been fired, and the NYT and other left-leaning media are suggesting it is because he was investigating someone in Trump's cabinet, or for some other nefarious reason.

I draw no conclusions about Bharara's motive for defying Sessions. Someone in his position has plenty of friends and plenty of enemies. Even the most honest of men can cave to the right kind of threat. There is speculation on Zero Hedge, for those who want to pursue that question:

Zero Hedge discusses Bharara firing

My point is simple. Bharara was fired nine days ago. His deputy, Joon Kim, took over as interim U.S. Attorney for the SDNY six days ago.

The delays that are driving the frustrated comments on this manifesto have actually been very short, not much longer than is normal in Washington politics. First, of course, Trump had to take office. Confirmation for Sessions was delayed by maybe a week longer than is typical for that position; but then on the same day he was sworn in, February 9, Trump signed an executive order directing all federal agencies to vigorously enforce the laws against trafficking. Then Sessions had four weeks in which to review the resumes of 93 U.S. Attorneys, not to mention get firm control of the FBI, and decide what to do with Comey and the rest of the utterly corrupt DOJ. After four weeks (during which more traffickers were rounded up than in the previous three to four years), he decided that Bharara would have to go with the rest. We don't know why, and even if these were normal times it would be rash to assume. Possibly Bharara is corrupt (unlikely); possibly he was dragging his feet on Weiner/Abedin because he was being threatened or had some conflict of interest (more likely); possibly there is some mundane personality/HR issue. We don't know. We don't need to know. What matters is that his deputy has so far had one working week to pick up his portfolio, in perhaps the busiest U.S. Attorney office in the country.

Again, I'm not criticizing this manifesto. Frankly, I'm trying my best to be completely neutral about that. As a newcomer, my opinion does not carry much weight. But facts and dates should. I'm just suggesting that action on Pizzagate/Pedogate/Weinergate requires certain administrative and political obstacles to be removed, and by Washington standards they are being knocked down at amazing speed. There isn't a need to issue this document right now, regardless of its merits. And I think even as a newcomer, I am allowed to say: Talk about mob justice and hanging is really, really premature. REALLY premature.

inb4 I am denounced as a Jewish shill working for David Brock and/or David Seaman and/or Rothschilds. You shouldn't denounce someone on a first date, it's rude. :-)

MolochHunter ago

you dont sound shillish at all, perfectly reasonable position. My considered rejoinder, though, would be to posit that the podesta leaks - admittedly only being 5-6 months old - are not the starting point of this continuum of feet dragging

365 days is a long timeframe for substantive action, and I'm not suggesting 'ALL OUR DEMANDS MUST BE MET' - if there's enough movement in that year to restore faith, there needn't have to be a full and total wind-up of the global satanic cabal to satisfy the community within that year. So long as we get th collective sense it is being addressed and not swept under the rug

SoberSecondThought ago

If we're trying to fix the date when all this horror started, we could go back to the assassination of JFK. Or the Franklin coverup. Or the killing of Vince Foster. It has been a long, horrible, dark chapter in American history, and I understand why people are frustrated and tired.

This is for everyone to decide, and I've had my say. I just want people to also keep in mind the YUGE progress that has been made in the past six weeks. Thanks.

MolochHunter ago

thanks for your contribution. I think folks are still a bit nervous, all the knives are out for trump and despite the many little fish, there's been no-one arrested of enough stature that the mainstream media cant ignore it.

So we remain in a position where if Trump is stopped the whole thing can be swept under the rug again. Look at the pitiful turn out for the march yesterday. Belgium after the Dutroux affair had a 300 000 person march and they still werent really given satisfactory results