While one might be startled, one likely wouldn't freak out to wake up and discover someone taking a selfie with oneself. It begs the question, what were they doing that we are not being told that caused him to freak out? Were there props, obscene poses, etc..? The SS PR statement suggests more to the story than we're being told.
Something like that should never have happened -- outrageous behavior by agents - jerks.
Thankfully the grandson was wise enough to tell his mother and trust none of the children will be able to be with Secret
Service agents now without guardians or chaperones with them.
Really suspicious behavior.
This revelation comes at a time when the Secret Service is doing damage control after an intruder was able to penetrate the outer perimeter of the White House grounds and get close to the entrance of the north portico of the White House. According to two sources, President Trump has had a good relationship with his detail, and this is seen as an isolated incident that is not symptomatic of issues with his or his family's protective detail.<
Questionable as to whether Secret Service is protecting Trump or trying to do him harm?
From what I've researched on the SS they are grossly underpaid and have quite a few issues within the department. I would never send a child off with 2 men w/o someone I know and trust as guardian. Parents are doing the cheap thing and now crying foul. Ridiculous.
Why in the hell was SS acting as a taxi service for an unattended 8 year old???
Oh, we don't have to do parental duties any more/just call SS rent a taxi??? or is it SS rent a nanny???
I have no sympathy for this bs. Parents need to be parents. They certainly have the funds to have a nanny that they know and trust to accompany a young child. Especially with all the issues surrounding the SS as it is. This is negligent parenting plain and simple.
Harrumph~
Save some exclamation points for the rest of us!!!!!!!!
This isn't pedo behavior. Have you ever played a prank on someone while sleeping? The kid was probably in a weird position. Grossly unprofessional? Yeah. Pedo? Not so fast.
This is absolutely disgusting. Weren't they known for picking up hookers in other countries and driving drunk too? Now pedophilia? Don't just take down the CIA, take down the Secret Service as well.
The story is suspicious. Why would the SS take pictures of Trumps grandson? I am sure they can dig and find his pictures. Mother Jones is not respected, it is considered a fake truth site.
Taking a selfie with the kid sleeping in the backseat of a car doesn't really qualify as pedophile behaviour. More troublesome is the lack of professionalism within an organization that prides itself and demands professionalism from its members. Anyone willing to step that far outside established decorum I wouldn't want in a position of responsibility.
What the SS did was creepy, but why was there no guardian, or nanny with the 8-year old? The SS are not nannies. There is some blame on the parents with this.
If I was his mother, that would scare the hell out of me. Last week someone climbed 2 fences and got around alarms and was within 200 yards of the President. Why? Because their all fricken corrupt. So now they are taking pictures with that little boy. I would not be ok with that.
I say the Secret Service needs time on ice. Start a special JTF in the military for protecting VIPs and test them out protecting our literal thousands of diplomats. If all goes well, scrap the Secret Service, or return them to being a special investigative office for counterfeit cash. At the very least, the damaging changes made by Obama to lower their standards in an effort to increase diversity should be reversed and recruitment should focus on hardcore loyalists to the protectee combined with mental stability and paramilitary skills in an urban environment.
Of course, I've always believed that the Secret Service wasn't there to protect the President, that they're only there to protect secrets. If the President doesn't comply with their orders, they hurt his family, who they basically have in custody, when you really think about it. Or they ruin him with a fabricated scandal. Or they kill him and he's replaced. In that sense, this could be a message to Trump. 'You better not dig too deep, because look just how close we can get to your grandkids.'
Makes you wonder, why did Obama really change the prerequisites for Secret Service procurement? They're now constantly flooded with applications. Was that to make it hard to perform psych evals, so CIA assets could come in? That'd explain creeps taking selfies with sleeping 8 year olds.
Bingo. Secret Service works for the Deep State if the order ever comes down for Trump to be assassinated or for one of his grandkids to be kidnapped the SS will make sure it happens as planned. They have to protect Trump from crazies same as any President but if and when it's decided at the highest level meaning Obama Soros Hillary Rothschild that Trump is to be taken out the SS will make sure they leave a gap in his security on that day or night in that location so Trump can be killed. At the moment they think they can get rid of Trump without killing him.
"What would possess them to do such a thing?"
Give the pictures to Obama, so Obama could threaten Trump. I'm guessing.
Edit: had to clear that up. I read my comment and it came off as something I might support, I do not. Old Boot-lips needs a rope and a tall tree for his retirement.
Smells like it was a message to Trump. 'you know what we do to kids his age. And you're not going to stop us, are you?'
The Secret Service, when you really think about it, has the President's entire family in custody, practically at gunpoint. Presidents aren't allowed to drive, maybe it's in case they try to run somewhere where they could get more then a sentence out before an agent shoots them.
What he has to do now is tread very carefully. He has to bring the whole family to Mar-a-Lago at once while he has all his Secret Service guys replaced.
Yes, he could possibly be a "scout' for a global ring. It disgusts me to think of these things happening, but we must remember how evil, perverted and greedy these people are. I am sure a high level elite was involved.
Clement Freud? The grandson of Sigmund Freud? Many do not know that Freud was a Pedophile and this was more than likely passed down to his son and grandson. I have seen that written on here a few times.Very sad.
I know it's only a minute chance, but it is entirely possible that they did this on purpose, to bring attention to the matter in a way that is relatively subtle but not career ending, maybe job ending, but they will still find private sector work, unlike that stupid cunt who said she wouldn't do her job.
I mean, how else are they meant to bring it up with their employer, if it is an issue that they care about.
I'm being far too optimistic, but hey, it's only 4am so the world isn't awake to show me what spectrum of shit is on the cards today.
Completely unprofessional behavior for a secret service agent. They probably need to be taken off of the bodyguard roster and replaced...never to return. An inappropriate thing to do.
Wow. The secret service is corrupt to the core. I was listening to a podcast about the Franklin Cover Up and they knew all about the pedophilia. One tale about a Secret Service Agent going through a house because George Bush was going to be there and finding two teenage boys hiding in a closet and just going right on by as if he didnt see them.
And there is proof that the Secret Service Agent driving JFK on the fateful day in Dallas actually brought the car to a stop after several shots just plain missed. The Zapruder film has evidence that a whole segment has been removed. So they have been corrupted since at least Kennedy if not well before.
They were corrupt before that. Kennedy want to dismantle them. The fault 7 leak password used the phrase Kennedy said directly about that. Something along the lines of splintering them and scattering them to the wind. I have read many things that said the CIA absorbed many German nazis. It seems those nazis slowly took over the CIA and it the completely corrupt mess it is today.
Glad to see Mark Lane still active on the JFK coup.
And thank you to Abraham Bolden for telling us what he knew and what he experienced.
How simple, Secret Service KKK protecting JFK!!
Mark Lane passed away several months ago, nobody in the news, not even Drudge (unless I missed it, and I looked), mentioned it, very few.
Mr. Bolden told me the documentary (above is just a preview) is still "in the can" and he doesn't know what will ever become of it ... now Bolden is getting pretty frail.
Oh, sorry to hear about Mark Lane -- looks great in that video. That was 5/10/16 ... and he was 89.
Very much admire Bolden and hope that he will find someone to take on his project and that his health will improve. :)
Thanks for letting me know.
They must be careful. I read a report about how they think Maddy McCann might have been "ordered" by an elite. The global ring got someone to take a picture of her and submit it to show the elite. When the elite approved, she was taken and sent to whomever had put in the "order". This could be the precursor to a kidnapping. I am sure they are not the ones he has kept on himself, these were probably in place when he moved in.
I know I'm no one 'important' but about a year ago I was in a park with my daughter and my 2 little grandsons (new baby and toddler), the park was empty other than us. We were swinging the toddler on the swing when my daughter noticed an elderly man walking by, outside the park a little distance away. He had a camera and was taking photos of her and the toddler. She told me so I turned around and pointed my phone camera towards him and started taking photos of him, at which point he quickly stopped and briskly walked away. We were annoyed about it as it was not in a 'touristy' area so no need for a camera. Later, once looking into this pizzagate stuff, I read that these pedophiles take photos of potential victims and source them out like a catalogue!! Unfortunately he was too far away for my camera to focus properly, unlike his camera which had the zoom attachment on the front! Fortunately we were just in that town to register the babys birth, so do not frequent there. We did not report this, but I am beginning to wonder if I should have, maybe there is a problem in that area with children.
I used to ride my dirtbike on a plot of wooded land adjacent to a city park. I cannot tell you how many times I ran across some perv watching girls playing soccer. One time I almost ran over a young guy dressed in camo with binoculars who decided he would lay down flat in hopes I wouldn't notice him.
Although, not nearly as often as I caught guys, even old men, out there buggering each other.
Bingo. Yes, you should have reported it, but many of us have said that. We have all made that mistake. Remember Parks are ripe for their crimes and "searching" out of possible victims. The tip off imo was the zoom on the camera. Could he have been taking a harmless picture? Possibly, but it is always better to err on the side of caution. Now you know. You have nnow been Officially Red Pilled. The best thing you can do now is to spread the word.
So scary. I know this has nothing to do with taking pictures, but very scary... I was at a baby shower at the park. My friends baby that was only 1 was walking around and playing. My other friend screamed. We look over and a man was in the park bathroom knelt down motioning for the baby to come inside with him. The father ran over and got her but it shook them up.
Vigilance is what it will take. This is very scary. It seems we must keep our eyes everywhere. People should be able to enjoy themselves without having to worry every second. As my mother always says, It only takes a second.
Pokes ago
While one might be startled, one likely wouldn't freak out to wake up and discover someone taking a selfie with oneself. It begs the question, what were they doing that we are not being told that caused him to freak out? Were there props, obscene poses, etc..? The SS PR statement suggests more to the story than we're being told.
lynn1314 ago
The more I think about this, the freakier it is . . . is someone planning to do something to Trump's grandchildren to stop him?
sugarskull ago
Whatever your creepy agenda may be know this ...KIDS ARE 100% OFF LIMITS AT ALL TIMES!!! They should be fired for being stupid enough to try this.
concernedaboutitall ago
Bizarre. Definitely not protocol. They need to go.
srayzie ago
A group of guys at the baby shower went after him!
frankenmine ago
Mother Jones is corrupt and should be archived in the OP. It doesn't deserve our support. Please keep this in mind for future posts.
Also, please see:
https://voat.co/v/news/comments/1315115
Votescam ago
Something like that should never have happened -- outrageous behavior by agents - jerks. Thankfully the grandson was wise enough to tell his mother and trust none of the children will be able to be with Secret Service agents now without guardians or chaperones with them. Really suspicious behavior.
Questionable as to whether Secret Service is protecting Trump or trying to do him harm?
4_InquiringMinds ago
From what I've researched on the SS they are grossly underpaid and have quite a few issues within the department. I would never send a child off with 2 men w/o someone I know and trust as guardian. Parents are doing the cheap thing and now crying foul. Ridiculous.
4_InquiringMinds ago
Why in the hell was SS acting as a taxi service for an unattended 8 year old??? Oh, we don't have to do parental duties any more/just call SS rent a taxi??? or is it SS rent a nanny??? I have no sympathy for this bs. Parents need to be parents. They certainly have the funds to have a nanny that they know and trust to accompany a young child. Especially with all the issues surrounding the SS as it is. This is negligent parenting plain and simple. Harrumph~
featheredmasks ago
Save some exclamation points for the rest of us!!!!!!!!
This isn't pedo behavior. Have you ever played a prank on someone while sleeping? The kid was probably in a weird position. Grossly unprofessional? Yeah. Pedo? Not so fast.
featheredmasks ago
$$$$$$
Trs0817 ago
This is absolutely disgusting. Weren't they known for picking up hookers in other countries and driving drunk too? Now pedophilia? Don't just take down the CIA, take down the Secret Service as well.
DeathToMasons ago
The story is suspicious. Why would the SS take pictures of Trumps grandson? I am sure they can dig and find his pictures. Mother Jones is not respected, it is considered a fake truth site.
ArthurEdens ago
Creepy af
bopper ago
Thanks. Strange.
lostinthevalley ago
They could have sold the pics to a foreign entity who could tell Trump "we have your grandson" as a hoax.
Raps1 ago
Taking a selfie with the kid sleeping in the backseat of a car doesn't really qualify as pedophile behaviour. More troublesome is the lack of professionalism within an organization that prides itself and demands professionalism from its members. Anyone willing to step that far outside established decorum I wouldn't want in a position of responsibility.
Blacksmith21 ago
This smells like an attempt at getting a photo they could doctor possibly, used to threaten Trump.
MadWorld ago
That's fucking creepy!
bopper ago
Confusing. Trump (pres) was in the car when they did this?? The story is a bit unclear, at least to me.
Commoner ago
What the SS did was creepy, but why was there no guardian, or nanny with the 8-year old? The SS are not nannies. There is some blame on the parents with this.
bopper ago
Yeah I don't understand the whole thing.
44NJ9 ago
underground pedo network.
44NJ9 ago
Glad he told. Bet they were going to see how much he would fetch on the underground pedo market.
srayzie ago
If I was his mother, that would scare the hell out of me. Last week someone climbed 2 fences and got around alarms and was within 200 yards of the President. Why? Because their all fricken corrupt. So now they are taking pictures with that little boy. I would not be ok with that.
UnicornsAndSparkles ago
This has just given me goosebumps. WTF. Has this photo been "debunked"? Or acknowledged?
quantokitty ago
That poor kid. He did the right thing. Those agents should be fired. I wouldn't trust them.
quantokitty ago
Yeah, and the little girl whose breast Biden was fondling grossly overreacted to the illegal molestation of a minor. WTH is wrong with children?
therealkrispy ago
Or maybe it's a threat to make sure he never does anything about it. The subtext I'm getting here is 'We watch your family while they sleep."
UnicornsAndSparkles ago
Yeah my thought too. Creepy.
4warned ago
Fire them. Sick.
therealkrispy ago
I say the Secret Service needs time on ice. Start a special JTF in the military for protecting VIPs and test them out protecting our literal thousands of diplomats. If all goes well, scrap the Secret Service, or return them to being a special investigative office for counterfeit cash. At the very least, the damaging changes made by Obama to lower their standards in an effort to increase diversity should be reversed and recruitment should focus on hardcore loyalists to the protectee combined with mental stability and paramilitary skills in an urban environment.
Of course, I've always believed that the Secret Service wasn't there to protect the President, that they're only there to protect secrets. If the President doesn't comply with their orders, they hurt his family, who they basically have in custody, when you really think about it. Or they ruin him with a fabricated scandal. Or they kill him and he's replaced. In that sense, this could be a message to Trump. 'You better not dig too deep, because look just how close we can get to your grandkids.'
Makes you wonder, why did Obama really change the prerequisites for Secret Service procurement? They're now constantly flooded with applications. Was that to make it hard to perform psych evals, so CIA assets could come in? That'd explain creeps taking selfies with sleeping 8 year olds.
MattHelm ago
Bingo. Secret Service works for the Deep State if the order ever comes down for Trump to be assassinated or for one of his grandkids to be kidnapped the SS will make sure it happens as planned. They have to protect Trump from crazies same as any President but if and when it's decided at the highest level meaning Obama Soros Hillary Rothschild that Trump is to be taken out the SS will make sure they leave a gap in his security on that day or night in that location so Trump can be killed. At the moment they think they can get rid of Trump without killing him.
gentlemanadventurer ago
"What would possess them to do such a thing?" Give the pictures to Obama, so Obama could threaten Trump. I'm guessing.
Edit: had to clear that up. I read my comment and it came off as something I might support, I do not. Old Boot-lips needs a rope and a tall tree for his retirement.
Aloha808 ago
Holy shit, now things are getting sketchy.
Touchdown50 ago
Link?
HillBoulder ago
Smells fake to me I could be wrong but you to admit the lack of anything other than words is concerning
therealkrispy ago
Smells like it was a message to Trump. 'you know what we do to kids his age. And you're not going to stop us, are you?'
The Secret Service, when you really think about it, has the President's entire family in custody, practically at gunpoint. Presidents aren't allowed to drive, maybe it's in case they try to run somewhere where they could get more then a sentence out before an agent shoots them.
Just a thought.
HillBoulder ago
Yep seems to be legit. It sure looks like a warning doesn't it fuck me
therealkrispy ago
What he has to do now is tread very carefully. He has to bring the whole family to Mar-a-Lago at once while he has all his Secret Service guys replaced.
behindthetoilet ago
Probably finding a buyer.
DownByTheRiver ago
Sell the picture to a tabloid.
carmencita ago
Yes, he could possibly be a "scout' for a global ring. It disgusts me to think of these things happening, but we must remember how evil, perverted and greedy these people are. I am sure a high level elite was involved.
UnicornsAndSparkles ago
Could it have been the elite who lived a few streets away and befriended them after the abduction? He is dead now I think. His name escapes me.
No search bar to find article.
carmencita ago
Clement Freud? The grandson of Sigmund Freud? Many do not know that Freud was a Pedophile and this was more than likely passed down to his son and grandson. I have seen that written on here a few times.Very sad.
Goater ago
I know it's only a minute chance, but it is entirely possible that they did this on purpose, to bring attention to the matter in a way that is relatively subtle but not career ending, maybe job ending, but they will still find private sector work, unlike that stupid cunt who said she wouldn't do her job.
I mean, how else are they meant to bring it up with their employer, if it is an issue that they care about.
I'm being far too optimistic, but hey, it's only 4am so the world isn't awake to show me what spectrum of shit is on the cards today.
sponiatowski ago
Completely unprofessional behavior for a secret service agent. They probably need to be taken off of the bodyguard roster and replaced...never to return. An inappropriate thing to do.
HillBoulder ago
No names for the spokesperson no links to anything else. We can do better than this. May as well be a sorcha faal article
OttoMaddox ago
Sorcha Faal = Sucha Fail
badastrid ago
SS apparently pedos in training. Scum.
GeorgeHodelDidit ago
Wow. The secret service is corrupt to the core. I was listening to a podcast about the Franklin Cover Up and they knew all about the pedophilia. One tale about a Secret Service Agent going through a house because George Bush was going to be there and finding two teenage boys hiding in a closet and just going right on by as if he didnt see them.
And there is proof that the Secret Service Agent driving JFK on the fateful day in Dallas actually brought the car to a stop after several shots just plain missed. The Zapruder film has evidence that a whole segment has been removed. So they have been corrupted since at least Kennedy if not well before.
equineluvr ago
Secret Service is a division of the Department of the Treasury.
The Federal Reserve controls the Dept. of Treasury.
44NJ9 ago
They were corrupt before that. Kennedy want to dismantle them. The fault 7 leak password used the phrase Kennedy said directly about that. Something along the lines of splintering them and scattering them to the wind. I have read many things that said the CIA absorbed many German nazis. It seems those nazis slowly took over the CIA and it the completely corrupt mess it is today.
bopper ago
Here is a bud of a bud of mine on Facebook. He's quite a bit older now, pushing 90. Abraham Bolden.
https://youtu.be/px-7IRJpMZE?t=111
Votescam ago
Glad to see Mark Lane still active on the JFK coup. And thank you to Abraham Bolden for telling us what he knew and what he experienced. How simple, Secret Service KKK protecting JFK!!
bopper ago
Mark Lane passed away several months ago, nobody in the news, not even Drudge (unless I missed it, and I looked), mentioned it, very few.
Mr. Bolden told me the documentary (above is just a preview) is still "in the can" and he doesn't know what will ever become of it ... now Bolden is getting pretty frail.
Votescam ago
Oh, sorry to hear about Mark Lane -- looks great in that video. That was 5/10/16 ... and he was 89. Very much admire Bolden and hope that he will find someone to take on his project and that his health will improve. :) Thanks for letting me know.
bopper ago
No problem, yeah he does look great for his age there, amazing.
carmencita ago
"Splinter it into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind."
44NJ9 ago
Yep, that's it. I was too lazy to look it up.
carmencita ago
:) I will not forget that quote.
carmencita ago
They must be careful. I read a report about how they think Maddy McCann might have been "ordered" by an elite. The global ring got someone to take a picture of her and submit it to show the elite. When the elite approved, she was taken and sent to whomever had put in the "order". This could be the precursor to a kidnapping. I am sure they are not the ones he has kept on himself, these were probably in place when he moved in.
TrishaUK ago
I know I'm no one 'important' but about a year ago I was in a park with my daughter and my 2 little grandsons (new baby and toddler), the park was empty other than us. We were swinging the toddler on the swing when my daughter noticed an elderly man walking by, outside the park a little distance away. He had a camera and was taking photos of her and the toddler. She told me so I turned around and pointed my phone camera towards him and started taking photos of him, at which point he quickly stopped and briskly walked away. We were annoyed about it as it was not in a 'touristy' area so no need for a camera. Later, once looking into this pizzagate stuff, I read that these pedophiles take photos of potential victims and source them out like a catalogue!! Unfortunately he was too far away for my camera to focus properly, unlike his camera which had the zoom attachment on the front! Fortunately we were just in that town to register the babys birth, so do not frequent there. We did not report this, but I am beginning to wonder if I should have, maybe there is a problem in that area with children.
Raps1 ago
I used to ride my dirtbike on a plot of wooded land adjacent to a city park. I cannot tell you how many times I ran across some perv watching girls playing soccer. One time I almost ran over a young guy dressed in camo with binoculars who decided he would lay down flat in hopes I wouldn't notice him.
Although, not nearly as often as I caught guys, even old men, out there buggering each other.
TrishaUK ago
gross........they all need shooting!
carmencita ago
Bingo. Yes, you should have reported it, but many of us have said that. We have all made that mistake. Remember Parks are ripe for their crimes and "searching" out of possible victims. The tip off imo was the zoom on the camera. Could he have been taking a harmless picture? Possibly, but it is always better to err on the side of caution. Now you know. You have nnow been Officially Red Pilled. The best thing you can do now is to spread the word.
TrishaUK ago
I definitely would report it if it happened again now I know what sort of people are out there, thats for sure!
carmencita ago
:)
srayzie ago
So scary. I know this has nothing to do with taking pictures, but very scary... I was at a baby shower at the park. My friends baby that was only 1 was walking around and playing. My other friend screamed. We look over and a man was in the park bathroom knelt down motioning for the baby to come inside with him. The father ran over and got her but it shook them up.
carmencita ago
Vigilance is what it will take. This is very scary. It seems we must keep our eyes everywhere. People should be able to enjoy themselves without having to worry every second. As my mother always says, It only takes a second.
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