Anyone Else Experiencing Relationship Fallouts Over Pizzagate? Are Any of You Actually Managing to Red-Pill your Friends/Family? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by gardenofbacchus

I know it sounds ridiculous, but in the past few weeks I've had to cull certain people from my life. Some friends who I've had for many many years.

I never talk about PG around people who aren't already aware of it, I'm not some lunatic raving psychotic conspiracist either. This is the first proper "conspiracy theory" (i fucking hate that term) I've been so involved with. 2 weeks ago I gently tried to red-pill my closest group of friends, I tried to suggest and give reasons why they shouldn't really trust mainstream media, that everything in the world is ultimately bought and paid for and that there are certain people who run the world, because they have the money and means. Their response to this was "no that's bullshit, big corporations run the world yes, but not people." I wish I was joking.

I then segwayed into PG and presented them with intro evidence and a shit tonne of info, basically just asking "hey, don't you guys find this pretty fucking weird? Look at this instagram account, look at the art on this politician's walls" etc. then tied it all in. Anyone with a brain or any interest in the world, i would've thought, would be compelled by what I'd said or at least interested, in the same way I was when I found PG.

My friends completely wrote me off and abused me, gaslighted me and called me a fucking tin-foil idiot while ignoring every point I painstakingly thought out. They argued every single point with "no i don't think that's right, look here, look what the Washington Post said, it's debunked" while ignoring blatant links and evidence I showed them. These guys are all educated, smart people with good jobs and girlfriends etc.

I've had to cull this group of friends because our world views are irreconcilable and they've blatantly demonstrated they have zero respect for me or desire to look past themselves. It shows I fundamentally have nothing in common with these people.

Does anyone else know what I mean? Are you guys experiencing the same stuff? Have you managed to red-pill people? If so, how? I feel like I'm living in the twilight zone and slowly going insane, like I'm on the fucking Truman Show or something.

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Psalm144-1 ago

Question here. Has the "fatherhood" video been widely accepted as legit?? As much as i want that video to be legit how can we assume that it is authentic? I would caution using Fatherhood as a pizzagate primer, it seems like total conjecture to assume that this video is legit. Again, maybe i missed something and this has been determined to be legit by the PG community.

@darkmath Is fatherhood legit? Did i miss something?

DarkMath ago

"Is fatherhood legit?".......It could be. Many people notified the FBI and other law enforcement about it. Time will tell.

There are bigger fish to fry though. I moved on a while ago.

Psalm144-1 ago

Concurred.

Vindicator ago

Another user who is a sound engineer isolated the male voice and did a side by side comparison here in v/pizzagatewhatever.

Due to the other shock content of the site and the fact the video was in circulation before the Podesta emails were released by Wikileaks, it is not likely to be him. But I don't think you could say it's been "debunked" definitively. I don't catch everything that develops, though, so someone link me up if has been.

druhill007 ago

there's a ton of 'investigative drama' surrounding the video..... but you guys are exactly right. It serves as an ultimate red pill. I find it very odd when people attack it's legitimacy super hard... the kid screaming in it is definitely suffering, and there's a vid on twitter that has podesta yelling into camera to give an example of his voice alongside the video. Honestly sounds just like him to me, yet people will say "sounds nothing like him" lol

Psalm144-1 ago

I am not attacking the legitimacy i just want to make sure our investigation is as rock solid as possible so that the next time there is MSM coverage they address the concrete pieces of evidence. For all we know some jackass could come out of the woodwork's and say... "Yup that's my video and it was for a B movie i was making. The kid sounds were made in a studio and no one was abused" or something like that.

druhill007 ago

Yeah I do get that aspect. From my standpoint, like I "try" making music as a hobby and I'd like to think I have good hearing. Actually taken the pitch perfect hearing tests multiple times and usually get 100%. Those kids cries were stabbing. That shit is 0% fake. Could they have chopped that real audio from another video and whatnot? Sure but then I think it becomes a matter of balancing red pills vs. false flags. They got us pretty good with the comet pizza shooting but if this video was a false flag it was a fucking stupid one cause it red pills people all the time

Psalm144-1 ago

Agreed.

ThighHighSwampBoots ago

What Fatherhood video? Im gone for a week or two...link?

trypanon ago

Although I totally agree with you, even if it isn't Podesta, it still is enough to red pill somebody who doesn't want to believe trafficking/child torture and rape exists.

Psalm144-1 ago

True. That video invokes a rage inside of me I had never felt before. To be clear, I am not questioning the authenticity of it being a real video I just am looking to confirm to Podesta connection. IMO the video clearly shows child abuse at a severe and disturbing level. I am in constant fear of any of these "fringe" pieces of evidence being given too much creedance in the PG investigation. If/when the opportunity is presented for MSM to give this thing a fair shake I don't want things that are based on assumption to be used against us and PG thesis.

trypanon ago

Agreed yeah. I was staying away from commenting on that video for those exact reasons. I think the video was 100% real of a child actually being abused. Those screams cannot be acted by a child of that age. Even if the child was acting, who the fuck does something like that? "Hey come get in this dark bathroom/shower with trippy lightning and loud bass/music somewhere nearby and let me hit the shower with a mop and scream crazy shit at you. It'll be fun!" I don't know if it was Podesta, but I know if I were that age I would be freaked out.