Yeah, why is Steele there? I wouldn't trust anything he endorses and have no idea why he's become such a presence when he's had nothing to do with Pizzagate and is trying to control the narrative with ridiculous, preposterous statements.
I cannot concur with the recent stream of negative things said about RDS. I heard about him years ago (he's hardly new on the scene, although perhaps new to many critics) and generally liked a fair bit of what he was saying. He's been quite vocal in acknowledging the massive pedo problem in Washington. It seems he took a knock not long ago because he might have inadvertently advocated for something less than lynching every guilty party on the lawn of the White House. Anyone on the very front lines of this war has to be cut a certain amount of slack even just because of the nature of unscripted dialog on various talk shows. I'm not advocating for anyone to sign the petition, but the absence of a direct reference to PG is hardly a reason to dismiss it and fry RDS. The authors may have simply recognized a tactical advantage in not referencing PG in order to maximize the number of signatures, in order to maximize the the likelihood of eliciting a positive outcome, i.e., keeping DJT in the hot seat.
Oh, for God's sake, you're leaving out that he forgot what role he was playing ... and ended the interviewer to call Robert David Steele! Cheesh! You can't get more obvious than that. Please everyone,stop clinging to these shills and propping them up. He's a fraud playing a part to control the narrative.
You've got this wrong, such an interview doesn't exist. That quote was from another DHS insider saying that Victurus should talk to RDS. RDS never forgot anything. Sorry to come across as overly direct - but I posted in that thread that the OP had it wrong and the OP never owned up to it. You've made some good posts here in Voat re pizzagate, but I think you're way off on this.
Unless you have the source to this article - then I'd like to read it. But, the original OP sighted a quote from a DHS insider - who NEVER claimed to be RDS - that was posted on Victurus Libertas.
Image of the quote, just in case you decide not to read the leak to perpetuate this misleading narrative. This quote was used by the OP who claimed that RDS forgot his name. Again, this leaker never claimed to be RDS
ohn Podesta is a "pedophile light."
You can order children off of a menu at some Saudi-owned restaurants. Literally.
Flynn pissed of VP Pence since his call included a list of high profile pedophiles, one of whom is Pence's best friend, and Flynn didn't tell him. Didn't name him (Jeff Flake?)
A roundup of high profile pedophiles should begin within a week.
This is bullshit. Straight up complete and utter bullshit. He's as fake as fake can be, but if you want to believe, go ahead. Podesta is a monster. A MONSTER. If this guy is giving him a pass, I would think it would be obvious that he has an agenda. So thanks for the good words, but we disagree on this one.
Oh, for God's sake, you're leaving out that he forgot what role he was playing ... and ended the interviewer to call Robert David Steele!
This statement by you ^^ is what I'm talking about. This occurrence - which was incorrectly referenced by /u/DeathToMasons here in this post: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1662524 - DID NOT HAPPEN at the original leak referenced in the post- which is a large part of the /u/DeathToMasons' basis for calling RDS a shill. And, it looks like /u/DeathToMasons removed the assertion that RDS role-played and forgot. Here was my post to the sub stating I thought OP had it wrong, but the notion lives on and you repeate it https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1662524/8133776
So, I'm calling you out on it - not to paint you as stupid or dumb, but to say "hold on, that's not what happened"
Podesta is a monster. A MONSTER. If this guy is giving him a pass, I would think it would be obvious that he has an agenda.
I'm not saying Podesta is an angel, and neither is RDS - he's focused on information gathering. This is why Guantanamo is so nice, soccer fields, prayer time, etc, etc...If you threaten with death, punishment dismemberment, you get what you want to hear, which might not be the truth. If you bribe with freedom, you get a lot more. That's all this is. I want them to hang from the gallows - and you know, they probably would even if the law didn't do it to them. And, if Podesta is 'light' doesn't that concern you? Breibart himself referred to Podesta as more of a trafficker. If there are others that are worse than Podesta, and he's doing more 'delivery' than 'use' of his 'product' - then we need to know who, where and how far it goes - and if Podesta admitting to it all means he gets a harsher punishment or even reduced, why would he?
All I'm asking, is that you go a step further. Just because we are on Voat doesn't mean we can't be misled, even about RDS.
Finally, IF YOU HAVE THE LINK where RDS role-play's and forgets, I'll eat crow and up-vote you every time I see a post from you :) but no one has shown it to me yet. And if /u/DeathToMasons checks in here, I'd like you to produce the URL showing RDS forgot and blew his cover. I don't think /u/DeathToMasons will because it was removed from the original post anyway instead of striking out which would be owning up to the lie in the post about RDS.
Here's another Voater telling /u/DeatToMasons to use strikeout on the error, but instead, removes it entirely. This is very suspect in my opinion - be very sure you're not being shilled by a double-agent shiller. The only posts this user had done are to discredit RDS, that's it.https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1662524/8142296
RDS has discredited himself with his statements. He's not to be trusted. If you think he is, I can live with that, but there's no way I would believe anything he has to say.
That's fine that you believe that - but if you must try to convince others, don't use false statements to do it. You've got a decent reputation here, but don't ruin it with stuff like this.
What's the adage? If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything? Believe me, I've earned some pretty heavy detractors along the way. Not happy or sad about it ... the major pushback I've received is filed under the heading: JUST THE WAY IT IS. Proposing giving a pass to predators is a fast way for someone to get on my Shit List. No passes -- not ever. Every single one needs to be arrested. Giving passes is how we got into this mess.
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r3dtr1x ago
isn't Robert Steele the ex-spook who thinks that there should be no pizzagate arrests?
quantokitty ago
Yeah, why is Steele there? I wouldn't trust anything he endorses and have no idea why he's become such a presence when he's had nothing to do with Pizzagate and is trying to control the narrative with ridiculous, preposterous statements.
rwb ago
I cannot concur with the recent stream of negative things said about RDS. I heard about him years ago (he's hardly new on the scene, although perhaps new to many critics) and generally liked a fair bit of what he was saying. He's been quite vocal in acknowledging the massive pedo problem in Washington. It seems he took a knock not long ago because he might have inadvertently advocated for something less than lynching every guilty party on the lawn of the White House. Anyone on the very front lines of this war has to be cut a certain amount of slack even just because of the nature of unscripted dialog on various talk shows. I'm not advocating for anyone to sign the petition, but the absence of a direct reference to PG is hardly a reason to dismiss it and fry RDS. The authors may have simply recognized a tactical advantage in not referencing PG in order to maximize the number of signatures, in order to maximize the the likelihood of eliciting a positive outcome, i.e., keeping DJT in the hot seat.
quantokitty ago
Oh, for God's sake, you're leaving out that he forgot what role he was playing ... and ended the interviewer to call Robert David Steele! Cheesh! You can't get more obvious than that. Please everyone,stop clinging to these shills and propping them up. He's a fraud playing a part to control the narrative.
ejd4500 ago
You've got this wrong, such an interview doesn't exist. That quote was from another DHS insider saying that Victurus should talk to RDS. RDS never forgot anything. Sorry to come across as overly direct - but I posted in that thread that the OP had it wrong and the OP never owned up to it. You've made some good posts here in Voat re pizzagate, but I think you're way off on this.
Unless you have the source to this article - then I'd like to read it. But, the original OP sighted a quote from a DHS insider - who NEVER claimed to be RDS - that was posted on Victurus Libertas.
Here is the leak:
http://victuruslibertas.com/2017/02/exclusive_interview_with_dhs_insider/
Image of the quote, just in case you decide not to read the leak to perpetuate this misleading narrative. This quote was used by the OP who claimed that RDS forgot his name. Again, this leaker never claimed to be RDS
https://i.imgtc.com/TRffoxW.png
Article title:
https://i.imgtc.com/oWISz1t.png
quantokitty ago
I don't believe I've got anything wrong. Here from this link: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1653834 Look at the stuff, Steele's said.
This is bullshit. Straight up complete and utter bullshit. He's as fake as fake can be, but if you want to believe, go ahead. Podesta is a monster. A MONSTER. If this guy is giving him a pass, I would think it would be obvious that he has an agenda. So thanks for the good words, but we disagree on this one.
ejd4500 ago
This statement by you ^^ is what I'm talking about. This occurrence - which was incorrectly referenced by /u/DeathToMasons here in this post: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1662524 - DID NOT HAPPEN at the original leak referenced in the post- which is a large part of the /u/DeathToMasons' basis for calling RDS a shill. And, it looks like /u/DeathToMasons removed the assertion that RDS role-played and forgot. Here was my post to the sub stating I thought OP had it wrong, but the notion lives on and you repeate it https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1662524/8133776
So, I'm calling you out on it - not to paint you as stupid or dumb, but to say "hold on, that's not what happened"
I'm not saying Podesta is an angel, and neither is RDS - he's focused on information gathering. This is why Guantanamo is so nice, soccer fields, prayer time, etc, etc...If you threaten with death, punishment dismemberment, you get what you want to hear, which might not be the truth. If you bribe with freedom, you get a lot more. That's all this is. I want them to hang from the gallows - and you know, they probably would even if the law didn't do it to them. And, if Podesta is 'light' doesn't that concern you? Breibart himself referred to Podesta as more of a trafficker. If there are others that are worse than Podesta, and he's doing more 'delivery' than 'use' of his 'product' - then we need to know who, where and how far it goes - and if Podesta admitting to it all means he gets a harsher punishment or even reduced, why would he?
All I'm asking, is that you go a step further. Just because we are on Voat doesn't mean we can't be misled, even about RDS.
Finally, IF YOU HAVE THE LINK where RDS role-play's and forgets, I'll eat crow and up-vote you every time I see a post from you :) but no one has shown it to me yet. And if /u/DeathToMasons checks in here, I'd like you to produce the URL showing RDS forgot and blew his cover. I don't think /u/DeathToMasons will because it was removed from the original post anyway instead of striking out which would be owning up to the lie in the post about RDS.
Here's the link the OP referenced in the original sub: http://victuruslibertas.com/2017/02/exclusive_interview_with_dhs_insider/ (no mention here that the leaker is RDS, but at the end "I have to go, but please contact Robert David Steele, the former CIA agent we discussed"
Here's the original voat sub: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1662524
Here's my reply https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1662524/8133776
Here's another Voater telling /u/DeatToMasons to use strikeout on the error, but instead, removes it entirely. This is very suspect in my opinion - be very sure you're not being shilled by a double-agent shiller. The only posts this user had done are to discredit RDS, that's it. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1662524/8142296
quantokitty ago
RDS has discredited himself with his statements. He's not to be trusted. If you think he is, I can live with that, but there's no way I would believe anything he has to say.
Thanks for the info.
ejd4500 ago
That's fine that you believe that - but if you must try to convince others, don't use false statements to do it. You've got a decent reputation here, but don't ruin it with stuff like this.
quantokitty ago
What's the adage? If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything? Believe me, I've earned some pretty heavy detractors along the way. Not happy or sad about it ... the major pushback I've received is filed under the heading: JUST THE WAY IT IS. Proposing giving a pass to predators is a fast way for someone to get on my Shit List. No passes -- not ever. Every single one needs to be arrested. Giving passes is how we got into this mess.