I HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THAT I MAY HAVE FALLEN INTO A TRAP AND I WANT TO APOLIGIZE TO EVERYBODY FOR HURRYING AND THINKING THAT THIS MAN iS INDEED, WITHOUT A DOUBT, SAYING: "I'M JOHN PODESTA...SING". IT WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE, SO PLEASE FORGIVE MY ERROR IN JUDGEMENT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE CHILD IS FAKING, OR THAT THE ABUSE ISN'T GOING ON, BECAUSE IT IS. IT'S VERY REAL. BUT THE ABUSER STILL MIGHT NOT BE JOHN PODESTA.
I will explain everything so you can then, verify for yourself and maybe come to the same conclusion as I did, which is that this man might not have identified himself as John Podesta at all. Thanks to @plan9 who said this:
If you listen closely, he starts with the lyrics "Growing up is not so tough... that can be HEARD at 0:29 of the 'Caillou' video. Then there is another possible verse he may be uttering INSTEAD of : "I'm John Pode (sta) sing!" ... which you can hear at 0:10 and which go like this "I'm just a kid who's four..." but cuts it off and says "Sing!" There is a strong possibility that the man is mixing up or repeating the verses. He seems erratical, so possible, no?
I just wanted to point this out, because I thought it was extremely possible that it is indeed what the man in the clip is saying. Thanks again to @plan9 for this tip. And I'm really, very sorry for having unwillingly made a small mess here today.
Regardless of that, I was not going off of him saying "I am John Podesta." Or even the skippy portion. I was going off of how the voices match almost identically for a 98.8% match. I still feel this is John Podesta even without him identifying himself as such. I saw this video when it was first posted and the voice comparisons are too accurate. The only thing debunked is him saying he himself is John Podesta and the child saying skippy. If this is not Podesta, the person in this is still torturing a child in a shower and the band music still matches to the effect of drowning out the noise which would mark a possible time and location.
I can't help but feel that it is indeed him, but we need more to be able to prove it. The sad part is that I really thought this was a confession and that we finally had him. It felt amazing for a couple hours or so (sigh).
It's alright. Don't let it get you down. This is a video showing a child getting tortured by someone. The video alone is enough to ruin your life because of the way we all think now. I wake up through out the night now, more than usual and check around my house because I have kids. I check on them and I have dreams about this investigation that actually make me wake up and cause me to start investigating what my dream was about. Strangely, it has caused me to find connections because my dreams are piecing together parts that I didn't know I had even seen. Photographic memories are almost a curse.
Ah, I know exactly what you mean. I get the dreams too, but the protectiveness for my kids was always very sharp with me. However, when I look at them now, I get the sense that they're very lucky. It's a nice feeling to have, especially when we spend so much time investigating here, learning about all the atrocities and abuse these children are going through out there. My heart goes out to them every day.
I don't think the "I'm John Pode.." can be interpreted as "I'm just a kid who's four". Maybe I've listened to it too much, but there is no distinct "k" if he repeated the kid line. He could have stopped short of saying his full name because he messed up the lyrics by blanking on "I like exploring".
but there is no distinct "k" if he repeated the kid line.
Yes, you're right, but I pointed out that he cuts it short to then say "sing". It's like he's about to repeat the "Am just a kid who's four" at 0:55 seconds of the clip. "He then says, "Growing up is not so tough", then he's back at it, but gets impatient "I'm just a... DaDa...Sing!" This theory makes more sense to me, because we now are 100% certain that he's singing the "Caillou" song.
Thank you for your reply. I'm new to registered user list on voat, and not a computer literate person anymore relative to most of the true investigators... If singing the Caillou song, which I agree he is, the line following would be the "exploring" line right? But that part was missed, so the person singing stopped and said "sing" as a correction to the error of messing up the song? Either way, good work, thanks for your dedication!
I have posted a new thread in relation to this one which is an apology to everybody including yourself. Here is the update thread
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1672360 It all makes much more sense now :)
You fell for a incredibly deceptive video. And basically proven the power of the human mind to trick us.
If they were just trying to confirm podestas voice, they would not have included anything else. By including the other things, they are basically priming our mind to fall for bits of non-evidence. What do I mean by non-evidence. If you are trying to confirm a voice match or what is said, you don't need to see the email "Still in the torture chanmber" or anything else. That has zero relevance to what you are trying to prove. Unless you want to begin priming people's confirmation bias to hear something else, to have the brain already thinking one way, when they are looking at ambiguous evidence. It is especially deceptive to put the words they want you to hear on the screen at the same time you hearing the audio. Or a news article about "Skippy." In Fact, if you are trying to decipher ambiguous audio, the best way to do it is to shutdown your other senses and close your eyes to listen as close as you can.
This video has been repeatedly discussed and it's quite clear the boy is not saying John or Skippy. I have a pair of Studio Monitor headphones that are pretty good quality. Studio monitors designed to be neutral "not musical." That is, they are intended to reveal what sound is there, not cover it up to make it sound better. I have heard songs I'm very familiar with and heard new things with these, you can sometimes hear the musician's fingers moving across their guitar strings because they are pretty sensitive. When
The boy clearly says a two-syllable name in this video. Someone heard Darren. I hear Terrence. When he is asked his other name, he definitely doesn't say Skippy. I hear Daddy. I'm less sure about this than the two syllable first answer.
If you look at the lyrics of the song and compare them to the what you believe you heard, you will see how powerful and active our mind is when interpreting something and how much is going on without us being aware of it.
Also people believe this is taking place in a bathtub/shower stall. The distortions in the image are due to the frosted glass common in shower doors.
I appreciate your explanation and opinion. It's true that the power of suggestion is very effective and that it can easily influence someone's perception. It did mine, but thankfully, I followed the "Caillou video" comment and did the comparison :)
OP has acknowledged it isn't as certain as they initially thought. I do appreciate your point about cognitive bias being at play in this instance, though, as it's something we all need to be careful of falling into.
I isolated the audio without the video and reduced it to a small fragment of "whats my name". "John" is heard crystal clear. There is NO mistaking it. If I made a file of just that and sent it to people who had no clue what it was they would look at me like I am stupid for asking them what word or name is being said. I was shocked. I cleaned it up, but a professional could do better. I only used Nero WaveEditor because its the best audi software I have available.
Im going to work on trying to reduce the noise of the entire 15 sec of him yelling. Once you remove some of the noise, and dont have the video to focus on at all, its like listening to it all over again for the first time. I will figure out somewhere to post it. May be tonight, may be Saturday. Im working on a lot at once and only had a short time to play with it earlier.
Im not an Audiophile. I have the software which performs very well for basic audio editing and sound effects, but I am not someone who plays with this stuff all the time. I'm just a normal IT Security Tech. I'll see what I can get though.
If anyone has a preference of where I should upload it let me know. Also, I am doing it with noise canceling headphones on, so that helps too.
BTW, big surprise, someone else is screaming in the background. There is more than one voice. Shortly after he says whats my name and the kids is screaming back there is what sounds like another kid screaming extremely loud in another room or something. Its hidden in the noise.
I agree. It is disturbing, abusive, but not clear of the names. The voice could be Pedosta, but that is not clear. The lights do look similar, but how does it go from a stage to a shower stall?
Bottom line is there are stronger lines of evidence than this. Certainly keep it, and discuss, but it is way too weak to claim as evidence.
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YingYangMom ago
Looks like JA or JP noticed my post. I got a downvoat on each and everyone of my comments.
YingYangMom ago
I HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THAT I MAY HAVE FALLEN INTO A TRAP AND I WANT TO APOLIGIZE TO EVERYBODY FOR HURRYING AND THINKING THAT THIS MAN iS INDEED, WITHOUT A DOUBT, SAYING: "I'M JOHN PODESTA...SING". IT WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE, SO PLEASE FORGIVE MY ERROR IN JUDGEMENT.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE CHILD IS FAKING, OR THAT THE ABUSE ISN'T GOING ON, BECAUSE IT IS. IT'S VERY REAL. BUT THE ABUSER STILL MIGHT NOT BE JOHN PODESTA.
I will explain everything so you can then, verify for yourself and maybe come to the same conclusion as I did, which is that this man might not have identified himself as John Podesta at all. Thanks to @plan9 who said this:
If you listen closely, he starts with the lyrics "Growing up is not so tough... that can be HEARD at 0:29 of the 'Caillou' video. Then there is another possible verse he may be uttering INSTEAD of : "I'm John Pode (sta) sing!" ... which you can hear at 0:10 and which go like this "I'm just a kid who's four..." but cuts it off and says "Sing!" There is a strong possibility that the man is mixing up or repeating the verses. He seems erratical, so possible, no?
I just wanted to point this out, because I thought it was extremely possible that it is indeed what the man in the clip is saying. Thanks again to @plan9 for this tip. And I'm really, very sorry for having unwillingly made a small mess here today.
Peace.
dreamdigital ago
Regardless of that, I was not going off of him saying "I am John Podesta." Or even the skippy portion. I was going off of how the voices match almost identically for a 98.8% match. I still feel this is John Podesta even without him identifying himself as such. I saw this video when it was first posted and the voice comparisons are too accurate. The only thing debunked is him saying he himself is John Podesta and the child saying skippy. If this is not Podesta, the person in this is still torturing a child in a shower and the band music still matches to the effect of drowning out the noise which would mark a possible time and location.
YingYangMom ago
I can't help but feel that it is indeed him, but we need more to be able to prove it. The sad part is that I really thought this was a confession and that we finally had him. It felt amazing for a couple hours or so (sigh).
dreamdigital ago
It's alright. Don't let it get you down. This is a video showing a child getting tortured by someone. The video alone is enough to ruin your life because of the way we all think now. I wake up through out the night now, more than usual and check around my house because I have kids. I check on them and I have dreams about this investigation that actually make me wake up and cause me to start investigating what my dream was about. Strangely, it has caused me to find connections because my dreams are piecing together parts that I didn't know I had even seen. Photographic memories are almost a curse.
YingYangMom ago
Ah, I know exactly what you mean. I get the dreams too, but the protectiveness for my kids was always very sharp with me. However, when I look at them now, I get the sense that they're very lucky. It's a nice feeling to have, especially when we spend so much time investigating here, learning about all the atrocities and abuse these children are going through out there. My heart goes out to them every day.
dreamdigital ago
I agree. It was sharp with me as well, I feel like it's over the top now.
Awoke_AF ago
I don't think the "I'm John Pode.." can be interpreted as "I'm just a kid who's four". Maybe I've listened to it too much, but there is no distinct "k" if he repeated the kid line. He could have stopped short of saying his full name because he messed up the lyrics by blanking on "I like exploring".
YingYangMom ago
Yes, you're right, but I pointed out that he cuts it short to then say "sing". It's like he's about to repeat the "Am just a kid who's four" at 0:55 seconds of the clip. "He then says, "Growing up is not so tough", then he's back at it, but gets impatient "I'm just a... DaDa...Sing!" This theory makes more sense to me, because we now are 100% certain that he's singing the "Caillou" song.
Awoke_AF ago
Thank you for your reply. I'm new to registered user list on voat, and not a computer literate person anymore relative to most of the true investigators... If singing the Caillou song, which I agree he is, the line following would be the "exploring" line right? But that part was missed, so the person singing stopped and said "sing" as a correction to the error of messing up the song? Either way, good work, thanks for your dedication!
YingYangMom ago
I have posted a new thread in relation to this one which is an apology to everybody including yourself. Here is the update thread https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1672360 It all makes much more sense now :)
srayzie ago
Don't worry. You're here everyday. I know you didn't purposely post something that could be wrong 🤗
YingYangMom ago
Thank you for the support, I'm grateful.
AreWeSure ago
You fell for a incredibly deceptive video. And basically proven the power of the human mind to trick us. If they were just trying to confirm podestas voice, they would not have included anything else. By including the other things, they are basically priming our mind to fall for bits of non-evidence. What do I mean by non-evidence. If you are trying to confirm a voice match or what is said, you don't need to see the email "Still in the torture chanmber" or anything else. That has zero relevance to what you are trying to prove. Unless you want to begin priming people's confirmation bias to hear something else, to have the brain already thinking one way, when they are looking at ambiguous evidence. It is especially deceptive to put the words they want you to hear on the screen at the same time you hearing the audio. Or a news article about "Skippy." In Fact, if you are trying to decipher ambiguous audio, the best way to do it is to shutdown your other senses and close your eyes to listen as close as you can.
This video has been repeatedly discussed and it's quite clear the boy is not saying John or Skippy. I have a pair of Studio Monitor headphones that are pretty good quality. Studio monitors designed to be neutral "not musical." That is, they are intended to reveal what sound is there, not cover it up to make it sound better. I have heard songs I'm very familiar with and heard new things with these, you can sometimes hear the musician's fingers moving across their guitar strings because they are pretty sensitive. When
The boy clearly says a two-syllable name in this video. Someone heard Darren. I hear Terrence. When he is asked his other name, he definitely doesn't say Skippy. I hear Daddy. I'm less sure about this than the two syllable first answer.
If you look at the lyrics of the song and compare them to the what you believe you heard, you will see how powerful and active our mind is when interpreting something and how much is going on without us being aware of it.
Also people believe this is taking place in a bathtub/shower stall. The distortions in the image are due to the frosted glass common in shower doors.
YingYangMom ago
I appreciate your explanation and opinion. It's true that the power of suggestion is very effective and that it can easily influence someone's perception. It did mine, but thankfully, I followed the "Caillou video" comment and did the comparison :)
nomorepepperoni ago
OP has acknowledged it isn't as certain as they initially thought. I do appreciate your point about cognitive bias being at play in this instance, though, as it's something we all need to be careful of falling into.
TrollMagnet ago
I isolated the audio without the video and reduced it to a small fragment of "whats my name". "John" is heard crystal clear. There is NO mistaking it. If I made a file of just that and sent it to people who had no clue what it was they would look at me like I am stupid for asking them what word or name is being said. I was shocked. I cleaned it up, but a professional could do better. I only used Nero WaveEditor because its the best audi software I have available.
Im going to work on trying to reduce the noise of the entire 15 sec of him yelling. Once you remove some of the noise, and dont have the video to focus on at all, its like listening to it all over again for the first time. I will figure out somewhere to post it. May be tonight, may be Saturday. Im working on a lot at once and only had a short time to play with it earlier.
Im not an Audiophile. I have the software which performs very well for basic audio editing and sound effects, but I am not someone who plays with this stuff all the time. I'm just a normal IT Security Tech. I'll see what I can get though.
If anyone has a preference of where I should upload it let me know. Also, I am doing it with noise canceling headphones on, so that helps too.
BTW, big surprise, someone else is screaming in the background. There is more than one voice. Shortly after he says whats my name and the kids is screaming back there is what sounds like another kid screaming extremely loud in another room or something. Its hidden in the noise.
bopper ago
I heard that also, on voat, that there was more than one voice.
newworldahead ago
TrollMagnet, you are awesome! As for where to upload your version of the video with the background noise removed, I suggest you send it on vid.me.
Thanks for doing this.
Sheilaaliens ago
I don't hear John OR Skippy, honestly.
SchlangeHatRecht ago
I agree. It is disturbing, abusive, but not clear of the names. The voice could be Pedosta, but that is not clear. The lights do look similar, but how does it go from a stage to a shower stall?
Bottom line is there are stronger lines of evidence than this. Certainly keep it, and discuss, but it is way too weak to claim as evidence.