Let me start off by saying that I believe in second chances. And I believe in taking people at their word. I never followed David Seaman but knew he was becoming a big face of the Pizzagate sphere, for better or worse. It got more and more clear over time that while people on Youtube and Twitter eat up whatever Seaman says that he had at best a mixed reception here at Voat. And by that I mean mostly negative. I never looked too much into the criticisms. At the face of it I thought it was nitpicking and I didn't want to assume bad faith.
Then one day I opened up my Twitter notifications and the newest alert was that David Seaman just followed my account. Pretty cool, I guess. I didn't follow himbefore he rage-quit Twitter for gab. I didn't follow him on gab either. I honestly wasn't impressed by his personality I suppose. He seemed kind of phony in his videos (personality-wise). Or maybe overly emotional, which was why I was worried about his (canceled) Daily Show appearance. I knew he worked at Huffington Post at some point, which I just automatically associate with low IQ's. But generally I felt he was just being hated on for no real reason.
I started these threads to encourage Voat and Seaman to clear the air:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1647256
https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/1647373
My main objective I guess was for Pizzagate research to go more smoothly, without infighting. Because at the end of the day we're about catching pedo fucks. I was met with some hostility, and I responded in kind. I realize now that the distrust for David may be warranted. Britt Pettibone told me he was an awesome guy in the past. So I didn't see the motivations of Seaman. Someone responded to the above topics linked that Seaman preys on cute young girls. I was weary. I messaged him on Twitter and asked to either set up an Ask Me Anything with him on Voat or to relay questions to him so he wouldn't be bombarded by attacks.
I basically straight up said I'll give you a handicap because Voat doesn't like you and I want you to say your piece. And what happened? You guys were right. He flipped out on me and called me biased, went hysterical about accusations I never even brought up, bragged about how many people he's woken up, and then rage-quit by unfollowing me. I was shocked. I never had strong feelings one way or the other about Seaman and just wanted to open a dialogue. And he freaked out at me.
http://i.imgur.com/fqscgxh.png
EDIT: After I messaged him I wrote this tweet expressing skepticism about all these rising journalists leaching off Pizzagate for name recognition-
https://twitter.com/PlZZAGATE/status/833385565382963200
Guess who immediately responded back saying I was the one being dramatic? LOL. GTFO.
http://i.imgur.com/D9AxhGu.png
So @Gammi @Forgetmenot @Don-Keyhote @TruthTrumps @nomorepepperoni @CipherPuppet @Flat_Truth @Antonius @Ramona @cantsleepawink @l4l1lul3l0 @LeHappyMerchant @Hey_Sunshine I want to apologize. Whether I argued with you or whether I promised to ask him questions on your behalf things didn't turn out how I thought they would. My bad.
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DarkMath ago
PIZZAGATE, do you mind explaining why you're shilling for people who
1) kidnapped and raped poor black destitute Haitian throw-away children
2) and harvested organs from the ugly ones
take your time, George and I will wait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7l9jlYnZYY
;-)
PlZZAGATE ago
Another Seaman shill that didn't address the OP.
DarkMath ago
PIZZAGATE the horse has left the barn, it's too late for you to post this. Everyone's immediate thought is an image of a bunch of CTR [what's a word for people who shill for those who rape and organ harvest Haitian children] around a table in some office building in DC brain storming how to reduce David Seaman's credibility because he gets 80,000 views for his youtube vids.
You're playing with fire PIZZAGATE. Eventually even YOU will realize the truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7l9jlYnZYY
PlZZAGATE ago
Again, didn't address that Seaman is a douchebag. I don't care about his viewcounts. I care about him leaching off of the movement and pretending to give a shit. Don't be a cunt. I defended Seaman in the two links in the OP, yes or no?
DarkMath ago
I don't care about David Seaman you idiot. All I care about are the shills who post anti-David Seaman rants.
David Seaman is a cheer-leader, he adds almost zero evidence so he's irrelevant from a researchers point of view.
You not knowing that is how I know you're a shill. So here ya go shill:
Do you mind explaining why you're shilling for people who
1) kidnapped and raped poor black destitute Haitian throw-away children
2) and harvested organs from the ugly ones
take your time, George and I will wait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7l9jlYnZYY YouTube
;-)
PlZZAGATE ago
You're literally just repeating an ad hominem attack lol
But I'm the shill? I'm not nor have I ever been pro-Clinton. Nice try. Well not really. Address the OP.
DarkMath ago
Oh look, you're pretending not to see the most damning evidence of CIA/Clinton Foundation human rights violations in Haiti:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7l9jlYnZYY
The gig is up PIZZAGATE. Yo a shill. I keep reposting George Webb videos because there's a chance you have a soul deep down under your shill armor.
PlZZAGATE ago
Uhuh, I have a Twitter account where I literally just said the CIA abuses children - https://twitter.com/PlZZAGATE/status/833401567772549121
My source? Voaters. I'm not shilling, you are buddy.
DarkMath ago
Well you should have said that from the beginning PIZZAGATE. Wow, hey that's cool.
No I'm not a shill. David Seaman is meaningless in all of this. Everyone knows he's a cheer-leader out to make money. I DON'T CARE. If he can convince just one person to look into PizzaGate more then he's a success in my book.
But you should also know while your post about Seaman might be legit, CTR was posting like 10 a day all last week. So yeah, you and CTR are on the same side on this one. No bigee though, I'm on the same side with AreWeSure every once in a while.
Thanks for clarifying. Truce?
PlZZAGATE ago
No I'm not making a truce with someone lying so transparently. Anyone checking my post history knows I'm not a shill and that I intended to open a dialogue with Seaman. CTR is nothing but hit-and-run bullshit. I defended Seaman, and I'm not going to allow you to claim some even standing here. You've been a cunt with no basis for your claims as have others here. So you're the shill.
DarkMath ago
People who disagree with you are't shills by default. It's the comments message that proves shillage. You just so happen to share the same position as CTR is all I'm saying.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE A SHILL ANYMORE
We'll just have to agree to disagree then.
PlZZAGATE ago
"People who disagree with you are't shills by default." Yeah, remember that next time you post.
DarkMath ago
I will if you remember: "You just so happen to share the same position as CTR is all I'm saying."
PlZZAGATE ago
What position is that? That Seaman is a douchebag? How is that even a position?
DarkMath ago
CTR bombarded /v/Pizzagate last week with Anti David Seaman posts.