Again, as the only mod online at the time, I was in a rush and didn't notice that he mentioned he verified through his Twitter (there was no link so I just saw a linkless post, which is always an automatic deletion for Rule 4). I repeatedly invited him to repost it, once someone pointed out he verified through twitter, but he still hasn't reposted, so I'm reposting for him as a gesture of good faith:
Seaman's post:
"Character attacks against me won't slow my coverage of Pizzagate, nice try. They haven't so far, and they won't, ever.
Most members of the community are savvy enough to spot an opposition research style character attack when they spot one, which is what that is. I've already addressed those claims in numerous videos, and won't be too detailed here as I don't want to repeat myself:
1) I am not promoting Pizzagate or information related to it to sell an out of print Internet marketing textbook I wrote eight years ago. That doesn't make a lot of sense and fails Occam's razor test.
2) My Wikipedia page containing my list of prior outlets and work I've helped break was deleted during this ordeal. It doesn't make me any less of a real journalist. The "stunt" I orchestrated while an intern at Gawker Media, now defunct, was approved enthusiastically by their video editor at the time. My "boss" at Jezebel, an internship I was no longer showing up for because I considered it a joke, became angry as she thought I was carrying out publicity stunts without her permission, when I had simply gone over her head. She published a second, friendlier piece on me after I met up with her and she saw the whole picture.
3) My choice to cover Pizzagate remains mine alone. It seemed newsworthy, it seemed in the public interest, and I don't like the idea of elites getting away with child torture and endangerment. It's not the first time I've raised outsized attention for a cause I thought the media as a whole was not reporting properly, nor was I alone in the effort- as anyone with a brain knows, Pizzagate is a global movement with thousands of people researching it and spreading the word. I threw in what I could, which was a popular YouTube channel and an equally popular Twitter account.
4) My research assistant regularly reads this subreddit and others. I don't personally come here usually, as the attacks like that one make my blood boil yet I don't want to give them any attention with an individual response. Also, I have a ganglion cyst on my hand which only recently burst, it makes typing more trouble than it's worth for me.
Keep up your research, recognize the paid attacks and divide/conquer tactics, and thank you all.
David"
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newworldahead ago
We all have to come together. David Seaman has done tremendous work in exposing Pizzagate. He's been very vocal about it since the beginning. We are on the same team. There are people who call him a disinfo agent, this is non sense. Recently he gave an interview to a sex trafficking survivor called Beckie Percy. This is awesome. We have a journalist on our side, people should welcome him HERE on the PG subverse instead of attacking him. This guy is on our side and can really help us in this investigation.
JimmyLionstar1 ago
Good point. Cheers!
SeamanModsFakeWar ago
For visibility commenting here:
Removed submissions in mod log only goes back 8 days
It is a site wide issue
mods say they are archiving posts but the archive site is known to fail in past
mods say they "will talk about it at next open discussion" but until then you cannot talk about it here, only in other subverses
hafen ago
Step up and archive them with different archival sites, and take screenshots and upload them using different image hosts.
You can create a megathread somewhere to neatly organize all that's been archived.
ThePuppetShow ago
I have some issues with the way this sub is being moderated. It seems lots of stuff gets deleted, like this post. You are wrong about the threads being permanently deleted though, you just can't search them past 8 days. Everything is still on voat, we just have to notice the good deleted threads before 8 days pass. Here is an example of a thread that I created to initiate a rule change, it's 24 days old and still here.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1587079
SpikyAube ago
I am sure most of the mods are decent people and they just have either a different opinion to others as to what this sub should be for and which posts should remain prominent (it's meant to be for investigating, sharing information, leads, evidence etc) or maybe sometimes they make mistakes, like with this post, but I really think it's not fair that people call us shills all the time! The mods are changing all the time too, people who do dodgy things, like the mod who deleted TONS of great submissions, get kicked out. I know I am really really against the pedo-creatures and want nothing more than for people to discover evidence and get it out there to the public. I don't see why they would let me be a mod if they are all trying to put PG back in the box. From what I've seen of the way things are discussed and thought about, they are trying to do a tough job that can't possibly make everyone happy, but they really try. Maybe there are one or two who are bad, but if there are I've not had any interaction with them. I wish people wouldn't jump to the conclusion 'they're all evil and out to get us' right away, what about giving people the benefit of the doubt? We'll never get anywhere if everyone's thinking everyone else is a fraud. :-(
ThePuppetShow ago
Fair enough, maybe I shouldn't be lumping all the mods together. I'm sure you're right and some of you are great people who are against this.
My real beef isn't with the mods anyway, it's with the rules that don't allow people to say "hey, I think I might have a lead", then let the community decide, like the other thread we talked in. Right now we have a very small minority deciding for the community what's important and what isn't. The rules are too tight, it's like the government telling it's citizen we don't trust you to make good decisions, so well make them for you. You guys should let 1 of each topic go through, if it's bullshit it will get debunked. The you can flair it and refer all the spammers of the same shit to that thread. Investigations involve dead leads, they always will.
In other words, I don't do well with rules enforced my an "elite" group of nobodys. I say elite because mods are selected in secret, not by the community.
SeamanModsFakeWar ago
Permanently deleted from the log, but you're right, if you have a URL it still works